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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
How would we be able to tell? Runic drag (really runic inertia) makes this impossible to test.
They still fall, even if slowly. Gravity exerts force on their mass. They have weight. As far as I can tell it should just require patience to check.
And a scale? Do we have a scale and a set of check weights?
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
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We could weigh runes pre-infusion, and then determine the degree to which runes float by adding known quantities of weight to runes (tie them on or Earthshape a crown-like thing) and then measuring the change in height. That theoretically provides a model for height-weight relationships that we could apply to full capacitor runes.
But if it's a subtly nonlinear model we're hooped, and we probably can't actually measure the height precisely enough.
It would be very funny to tell Jiraiya how much a chakracule weighs.
If we slide a platform under a rune, does it float higher or stay at its original height?
Sure, why not? We have so much misc shit in our storage seals and even if not, fabricating some sounds close to trivial.
@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped
Does Hazou think you can cast jutsu without your pinky? Or does it take losing a fair few fingers to be unable to cast? Atomu is missing more than a few IIRC.
Based on the attached picture it looks like you'd be unable to make the Dragon seal and some others are questionable.
It's impossible to manufacture check weights without a reference point. We could do regularly sized chunks of granite for the weights, easily, but we'd have no way of relating them to pounds or whatever they use in the EN.
A set of scales actually seems relatively difficult to my mind. I suspect Hazoupilot won't be able to rig something precise enough to measure diddly squat.
Runes don't float. They slowly settle to the ground. I suspect they're completely agnostic to the amount of weight on the rune itself. Running these experiments sounds very WC intensive and tbh I'm not interested in the slightest.
If you have a way of weaponizing it then I might be interested.
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Not that I care too much either, but it's pretty straightforward to make fairly accurate scales with water as your weight, and very easy to consistently measure said water (just use the same container repeatedly.)
I agree with the rest of the post that this isn't worth a lot of effort for something that might turn out to be another instance of chakra ignorinh physics, but surely at least one person in Uplift knows their own weight. Even assuming they don't have measurements for water (Mist seems like they might).
It does seem like it might be trivial effort, and we only need enough precision to be sure whether or not the weight changes a perceptible amount.
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Plot twist: the last update is set in the future where we create this rune and ambush Akatsuki with it.
We could still measure the before and after relatively (e.g. it takes 5s to fall 1m right after infusion and 7s to fall 1m at ~full).
Heavier objects don't fall faster, all other parameters being equal. If it does take different times to fall X distance when empty/full I wouldn't intuitively blame weight for that.
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
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I would expect that we could buy a set of weights in a medium-sized town. Merchants care a lot about how much things weigh. Ditto a set of scales: if there's anyone who produces medical supplies they have some sort of method of weighing things accurately.
But honestly creating an accurate set of scales would not be hard for Hazo. He's seen them before and Earthshaping lets him create simple objects from perfect diamond crystals. Weights would be very easy: the density is absolutely uniform so you can just go by volume.
Huh. My faulty mental image, then. I always imagined them floating there, just a little ominous.
Regardless, I agree that this would be an extremely poor use of time and energy.
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I think this is assuming runes have a fixed amount of resistance (IE, that pulling on them harder makes them move faster, so a heavier weight makes them 'fall' quicker.)
Oh, that does seem intuitively plausible but as far as I recall the descriptions of runic drag have been that pushing harder does nothing to speed it up any perceptible amount.
Sure, it wouldn't be that hard to manufacture our own sets of weights, it's just relating them to other units without a check weight that's hard.
It would be the height of stupidity to go into any town whatsoever until we return to Leaf. I was assuming we would not be stupid.
Yes, if we had accurate measuring equipment.
When runes move 2.5cm/minute and all we have for a timer is a water clock made in 1000 AD, I say:
Good Fucking Luck
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I'm not sure why we'd even need to do this... I thought the point was just seeing if absorbed chakra made it heavier at all
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Fabricate two chakra capacitor runes, place them on a perfectly symmetrical balance scale, then infuse one of them and see if the scale tips. If it does, add custom weights until it tips back. Tenten presumably has a storage seal with exactly 100kg of projectiles crammed in it, see how many of them need to be removed before the new item will fit.
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- Europe
Maybe the stored Chakra can be instructed to be lighter.
Suddenly Stone Ballons.
Suddenly Stone Ballons.
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The pinky is essential for several common handseals such as Dragon, Bird, and Ox, meaning that any jutsu which included one of those handseals would be impossible to cast. The other handseals would be impacted, making all jutsu extremely difficult to cast and less efficient if they could be cast at all.
Hazō thinks that if a skilled technique hacker can adapt techniques from entirely different anatomies of Seventh Path denizens, it should probably be possible to rework ninjutsu not to use any of the handseals that require a pinky and to account for the impact on the other seals in order to restore reliability. However, it would either:
- Require relearning the ninjutsu from scratch, or
- Be a tweak, and thus incompatible with other tweaks for the same ninjutsu, drastically limiting the ninjutsu's power and versatility.
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And since Tweaks cannot be shared, if Hazou were to, say, make a version of MEW that Atomu could cast, Atomu would have to level this modified jutsu from scratch.
Well, at least some of the Akatsuki (stagnated Essies that they are) have a new XP sink >:3
@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped
Between the two of them, Noburi and Hazou have completely read Orochimaru's medical notes and sealing notes. In Oro's collaborations with Tsunade amd Jiriaya, does he ever mention finger/limb regeneration or biosealing procedures to attach ninja powerable prosthetics? If so, are there takeaways? I assume it's not easy or everyone would be doing it. Does Hazou think Sasori could restore the (hypothetical) injuries Kisame and Itachi received in this interlude.
Speaking theoretically of course, I'm not trying to metagame here.
We know he discussed several other medical cases in some detail, and including the basics of some bioseals and restoring Medical Stand Down ninja to active duty is an obvious low-hanging fruit for them to try to tackle. So it seems reasonable that Oro would have at least make a token effort. Back when he cared about others ofc.
Between the two of them, Noburi and Hazou have completely read Orochimaru's medical notes and sealing notes. In Oro's collaborations with Tsunade amd Jiriaya, does he ever mention finger/limb regeneration or biosealing procedures to attach ninja powerable prosthetics? If so, are there takeaways? I assume it's not easy or everyone would be doing it. Does Hazou think Sasori could restore the (hypothetical) injuries Kisame and Itachi received in this interlude.
Speaking theoretically of course, I'm not trying to metagame here.
We know he discussed several other medical cases in some detail, and including the basics of some bioseals and restoring Medical Stand Down ninja to active duty is an obvious low-hanging fruit for them to try to tackle. So it seems reasonable that Oro would have at least make a token effort. Back when he cared about others ofc.
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Well Itachi and Kisame just unstagnated combat.
I guess Sasori unstagnated medic stuff now.
Akatsuki might have gotten stronger! I hate Golem-friend now!