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No, I was making the point that a hundred explosion seals going off wouldn't be a hundred TN 40 checks any more than a hundred Gamma Ray seals going off would be a hundred TN 40 checks. See: Konan.
Oh, my bad then. Yeah, the logic's sound, the mechanics serve the narrative and the QMs have made statements to that effect before, how X low-level threat stops being a low-level threat if you have enough of them.
 
It makes sense to model physique checks like that, though. If it's too weak to penetrate (which gamma rays wouldn't be lmao) than you just withstand a million pinpricks no problem.
That's situational, though. It's not a safe assumption for all, or most, physique checks.

For example, if a ninja is hit with a baseball or something, they're probably not going to get more than a bruise. Even with ordinary civilians, a baseball is only sometimes injurious.

However, if you throw 1,000 baseballs at a ninja, they're going to get a bruise everywhere. Bones will get hit simultaneously and repeatedly, resulting in fractures that a single baseball never could. The sheer extent of bruising could cause serious issues, blood pressure drops, etc. Every possible weakpoint will be hit, such as the skull, groin, solar plexus, eyes, etc.

1,000 baseballs is qualitatively different than 1 baseball. It's even different than individually throwing 1,000 baseballs at 1,000 uninjured ninja.
 
[X] Action Plan: Leavetaking
Word Count: 299
  • Sanity Check with Mari/Kei/Snow/Noburi
    • Can we get the TS and Tsunade to trade off days? Or each of them could take half the day.
      • Perhaps we could get the TS and Tsunade in a room to work this out like adults?
      • The TS mentioned wanting some time off, and Tsunade surely has other patients to work on.
      • Maybe the TS could start Noburi in a couple months?
      • Could we ask Naruto to mediate this dispute?
    • Toad Sages
      • Pros: Taught Jiraiya, know Sage Mode, TH training/FOOMing on Seventh Path for Hazou, need to stay on good terms to remain Toad Summoner, potentially years of training
      • Cons: Can't avoid Tsunade forever
    • Tsunade
      • Pros: Lots of medical jutsu, reputation as a doctor, limited duration?
      • Cons: Disrespecting the Toads, leaves Hazou's training in question, might jeopardize Necromancy, only a few months long
    • Whichever route Noburi picks, he has Hazou's full support.
    • Noburi is busy, so Mari is in charge. Unless there are objections?
  • Ino
    • Meet with her to say goodbye, give her the official line about our mission.
    • Promise to send her weekly letters via the Seventh Path
    • Give her a farewell bouquet. Cast the fertility jutsu on it.
      • Themes - Love through adversity, love everlasting.
  • Depart for the Gold Mine with Kei/Kagome
    • Have Canvass check the team for unusual scents.
    • Travel using skywalkers exclusively.
    • Use dice to randomly break the trail near Leaf a few times.
    • Establish a basic perimeter around the mine before starting extraction.
    • Coordinate with Noburi for chakra
    • For each cast of ES, concentrate the gold in the AoE into a small volume of earth.
    • Use Earth Clones to dig up the highly concentrated gold-dirt mixture and store it in baskets.
      • Bring extra shovels, baskets, and storage seals. Draw down the Seal Bank if necessary.
Okay, finalized plan. Now coming in below 299 words. @Zampano special shout-out for the help with this.
 
[X] Action Plan: Leavetaking
Word Count: 299

  • Sanity Check with Mari/Kei/Snow/Noburi
    • Can we get the TS and Tsunade to trade off days? Or each of them could take half the day.
      • Perhaps we could get the TS and Tsunade in a room to work this out like adults?
      • The TS mentioned wanting some time off, and Tsunade surely has other patients to work on.
      • Maybe the TS could start Noburi in a couple months?
      • Could we ask Naruto to mediate this dispute?
    • Toad Sages
      • Pros: Taught Jiraiya, know Sage Mode, TH training/FOOMing on Seventh Path for Hazou, need to stay on good terms to remain Toad Summoner, potentially years of training
      • Cons: Can't avoid Tsunade forever
    • Tsunade
      • Pros: Lots of medical jutsu, reputation as a doctor, limited duration?
      • Cons: Disrespecting the Toads, leaves Hazou's training in question, might jeopardize Necromancy, only a few months long
    • Whichever route Noburi picks, he has Hazou's full support.
    • If he chooses to go with Tsunade, suggest the following:
      • Inform the toad sages that his time has been ordered used for the following few months by Tsunade, who is lawfully in a position of authority over him and disinclined to respect his prior commitments with them. (Quote her here, if he judges their demeanor amenable to it.)
    • Noburi is busy, so Mari is in charge. Unless there are objections?
  • Ino
    • Meet with her to say goodbye, give her the official line about our mission.
    • Promise to send her weekly letters via the Seventh Path
    • Give her a farewell bouquet. Cast the fertility jutsu on it.
      • Themes - Love through adversity, love everlasting.
  • Depart for the Gold Mine with Kei/Kagome
    • Have Canvass check the team for unusual scents.
    • Travel using skywalkers exclusively.
    • Use dice to randomly break the trail near Leaf a few times.
    • Establish a basic perimeter around the mine before starting extraction.
    • Coordinate with Noburi for chakra
    • For each cast of ES, concentrate the gold in the AoE into a small volume of earth.
    • Use Earth Clones to dig up the highly concentrated gold-dirt mixture and store it in baskets.
      • Bring extra shovels, baskets, and storage seals. Draw down the Seal Bank if necessary.

My suggested modifications in green.
 
[X] Action Plan: Leavetaking + Toad Suggestions
Word Count: 299+, 399-
  • Sanity Check with Mari/Kei/Snow/Noburi
    • Can we get the TS and Tsunade to trade off days? Or each of them could take half the day.
      • Perhaps we could get the TS and Tsunade in a room to work this out like adults?
      • The TS mentioned wanting some time off, and Tsunade surely has other patients to work on.
      • Maybe the TS could start Noburi in a couple months?
      • Could we ask Naruto to mediate this dispute?
    • Toad Sages
      • Pros: Taught Jiraiya, know Sage Mode, TH training/FOOMing on Seventh Path for Hazou, need to stay on good terms to remain Toad Summoner, potentially years of training
      • Cons: Can't avoid Tsunade forever
    • Tsunade
      • Pros: Lots of medical jutsu, reputation as a doctor, limited duration?
      • Cons: Disrespecting the Toads, leaves Hazou's training in question, might jeopardize Necromancy, only a few months long
    • Whichever route Noburi picks, he has Hazou's full support.
    • If he chooses to go with Tsunade, suggest the following:
      • Inform the toad sages that his time has been ordered used for the following few months by Tsunade, who is lawfully in a position of authority over him and disinclined to respect his prior commitments with them. (Quote her here, if he judges their demeanor amenable to it.)
    • Noburi is busy, so Mari is in charge. Unless there are objections?
  • Ino
    • Meet with her to say goodbye, give her the official line about our mission.
    • Promise to send her weekly letters via the Seventh Path
    • Give her a farewell bouquet. Cast the fertility jutsu on it.
      • Themes - Love through adversity, love everlasting.
  • Depart for the Gold Mine with Kei/Kagome
    • Have Canvass check the team for unusual scents.
    • Travel using skywalkers exclusively.
    • Use dice to randomly break the trail near Leaf a few times.
    • Establish a basic perimeter around the mine before starting extraction.
    • Coordinate with Noburi for chakra
    • For each cast of ES, concentrate the gold in the AoE into a small volume of earth.
    • Use Earth Clones to dig up the highly concentrated gold-dirt mixture and store it in baskets.
      • Bring extra shovels, baskets, and storage seals. Draw down the Seal Bank if necessary.
 
[X] [Sealing SOP] Did You Know That Albatrosses Have The Largest Wingspan Of Any Living Bird?
  • Unless otherwise specified, follow Hazoupilot's preference.
  • Err on the side of caution until Hazou has a good sense of the difficulty.
Can I get some votes for this in the next hour?

Or you could unvote my plan. Either one. I don't want to screw up the tally and invite for my own plan but I am tempted if this doesn't pass
 
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Scheduled vote count started by eaglejarl on May 5, 2024 at 9:47 PM, finished with 198 posts and 17 votes.
 
Scheduled vote count started by eaglejarl on May 5, 2024 at 9:47 PM, finished with 198 posts and 17 votes.
 
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Are solar and lunar eclipses a thing in MfD? Has Hazou ever heard of such a thing? If so, is he aware of the shadow being cast on the moon/sun being round?

I ask this because I (and @DanZapman) am curious about IC justification for a spherical Earth.

Hazou studies astronomical influences a lot for Sealing so it seems like he would have heard of eclipses if they do exist.

They were known to 11th century Japan. So again, if they do exist, he should have heard about them, we know he has almanacs and such for doing Sealing.

Also, are there other planets known to the ENese? If so, how many, and what are their names? And just checking, the EN just has the one moon, correct?

I want to point out that the planets are very obviously different than stars and were known to most every ancient civilization, they generally have names for the 5 visible to the naked eye. Including Japan

So if there are other planets, they should know about them. If the EN is on an Earth, there should be 5. Since 5 of the planets in our Solar System are visible to the naked eye (Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn).
 
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I feel compelled to say, the one clear memory I have of a QM explaining what prep days entail describes Hazou actually carefully tracking astrological influences. I've spent the last few years carefully not asking the question of whether mfd horoscopes are real.
Solar/lunar eclipses and especially the planets are incredibly important to astrology.

There's basically no difference between astronomy and astrology until you get to the 18th century. Predicting eclipses is like an astrologer's main job, well that, and a bunch of pseudoscientific nonsense.

But it was their only real job.
 
There's basically no difference between astronomy and astrology until you get to the 18th century. Predicting eclipses is like an astrologer's main job, well that, and a bunch of pseudoscientific nonsense.
John Dee also produced various maps for maritime navigation (also based on the stars) as part of his royal position but he was unusually good at drawing maps, from what I understand.
 
Hey @eaglejarl, do you know what ended up happening with the bo-kunai that we had Kei and our blacksmith work on?
Hazō has heard of no update on the project.

Are solar and lunar eclipses a thing in MfD? Has Hazou ever heard of such a thing? If so, is he aware of the shadow being cast on the moon/sun being round?
Hazō has never heard of such a thing, although it should be noted that the EN is small (so eclipses would be rare) and record keeping is atrocious.

Also, are there other planets known to the ENese? If so, how many, and what are their names? And just checking, the EN just has the one moon, correct?
Yes, there are other planets known to the Elemental Nations, and there is only one moon in the sky. If you can explain why the number and names of planets are relevant to the gameplay, we can provide you with count/names.
 
Yes, there are other planets known to the Elemental Nations, and there is only one moon in the sky. If you can explain why the number and names of planets are relevant to the gameplay, we can provide you with count/names.
And you argued that there's no way the players would need to know the astronomy of the solar system when originally worldbuilding (to my recollection)! :p
 
Knowing this, does Hazou-pilot believe that the Minato Seals gather "environmental chakra" --as in, a melting pot of mixed human chakra, nature chakra, and the other 12 types of chakra --or do the Seals gather a specific combination/type of chakra?
Hazou thinks these seals do not do any sort of filtering or separation of different chakra types (if indeed these chakra types exist).

What kind of mines does Fire have? I assume we can't go around purchasing mines in other countries.


Iron (we have one)
Gold (we have one)
Salt(?)
Silver(?)
Tin(?)
Copper(?)
Let us throw the question back: which types of mines are historically plausible to have existed in 12th century Japan?


Did River steal our iron mine?
Technically, Leaf surrendered it (and surrounding lands) to Rain as weregild, who in turn traded it to River in exchange for less border-gorey borders. Note that Hazō originally bought the mine to be a bolt-hole for the family, and thus he never officially notified the Tower of his ownership. Had he done so then maybe it would have been different but as things are, Mari suggests it's best to let sleeping dogs lie.
 
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