Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

Aisha's painting (Ziggrrauglurr)
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"You're back to watercolors?" I asked as I looked at her nearly completed painting, comparing it to the scene laid out before us.

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Now there were rolling hills, fields, forests, and a river leading to something between a lake and an inland sea, all surrounding something that looked like a college campus with a very diverse architectural history. Gothic masonry, Greek columns, modernist designs, brutalist structures overrun with vegetation, a domed library, and a collection of roads and footpaths crisscrossing the area in a design that seemed nearly random, but was actually based on precise optimization of the routes between the buildings.

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Aisha's gaze was focused towards the river mouth where the square sails of a three masted sailing ship could be seen gliding towards a dedicated berth.

So after "Matrix's" version of art. I experimented with different AI's generations, and generated small areas of the description. Then worked to merge them as a single piece. This is my (and several AIs) rendition of Aisha's painting, as a full watercolor painting


Full HQ version: shorturl.at/EWY38
If you have seen my previous "artistic contributions" (if you want to be generous), you might notice that I don't draw anything "original", as an aphantasic I don't have a working "Mind's Eye", I can't visualize, but I do have an imagination, and I like to think I'm creative, but visually, the best expression of that creativity is working with things that already exist, modifying them iteratively until they reach a satisfying result. So I get an Idea and hunt "pieces" that I can "paste" in a collage/pastiche of things to be modified. Basically memes, but for everything. anyway, just wanted to... explain why things I post are always recreations of other work, not because I'm lazy or want to steal things.
 
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Satisfying chapter though. The conclusion was enjoyable and reading how it affected everyone.

Even if its increasing the Shipping Factor of Aisha as soon as she is legally an adult. Because that girl is going to carry a torch. More like a goddamn sun.
I hate this genuinely. Why are you talking about a character that is a minor in this way. stop. Aisha is a minor. don't talk about minors in terms of them eventually reaching the age of consent. ever. that's weird.
 
Like, there was an instant in canon where Aisha walks up to him and decides to attack Cherish instead.
Even better example is when Taylor decided to shoot Aster instead of Jack. She had a justification, but it was still very much a "I have been nudged into not killing Jack Slash" moment.
I do think this is the moment where people for once give Jack too little credit. Shard or not, you cant deny that Jack is veteran cape with dozens, hundreds of battles behind him. He is bound to pick up some skills
He's also, by this point, pretty heavily enhanced by Bonesaw. Shooting him in the head isn't guaranteed to work these days. (Though that's only a fraction of his career.)

That said, I've seen others argue that his shard would warn him of stuff non-parahumans are about to do if a nearby parahuman can detect it -- i.e. Cherish's shard would be passively passing on to Broadcast data about any obvious threats. I'm not sure how much I buy that, but it's at least within the scope of the kind of thing Broadcast already does for him.
There is the question of where the line between thinker and master really lies. How much knowledge and control of a situation can you have before your manipulation leans into master territory?
Jack's an example of how the PRT classifications are a bit murky. He's a Blaster, of course. But he's also a Thinker and a Master, though both on a subconscious level. Thinker because he's fed information, and Master because the thought patterns of others (albeit only parahumans) are being altered around him. He's almost like a less-blatant August Prince in terms of how that aspect works...
 
Well, I'm going to be an old man here and say Jack's power works very very much like the protaganist of the book "A Spell for Chameleon" by Piers Anthony. He had absolute inability to be harmed by magic, but his power was subtle enough to disguise such as coincidence lest someone in that heavily magic world take a simple sword to him.
 
He's also, by this point, pretty heavily enhanced by Bonesaw. Shooting him in the head isn't guaranteed to work these days. (Though that's only a fraction of his career.)
Even with metaknowledge, finding a place and time to kill him without using Thinkers is hard. We actually don't know of ANY S9 roster that lacks defenses against snipers:

The initial roster included Gray Boy, who can block line of effect with his bubbles and was much more liberal about deploying them than the clone.

The next known lineup includes Shatterbird, who can preemptively destroy scopes, Winter, who can block bullets like Gray Boy (and was a former child soldier experienced with firearms), and the Siberian.

Post Bonesaw, a headshot might not kill him.

I suspect Jack and/or Broadcast were aware on some level that snipers could be problematic, and prioritized recruits that could defend him.
 
I think he did that already.
He did that loooong ago. Like before the Matrix was even fully sentient, since it was essentially the first major project Joe used them for.
He took care of that quite awhile ago. Back in Chapter 38. Over a year and a half ago in real world time.
Why did you remind me of this?

o_O ...[re-reads Chapter 38]...

I forget he did a "minor patch job" with his nano-assemblers as an anti-Shatterbird precaution, as well as a partial upgrade when he got transformed into a Hindu Cyborg God.

However, if he wants to fight the S9 using every available trick in his arsenal, Apeiron's cranial implant will need a total overhaul. Not necessarily on the same level as his HEART ❤️, but it's long overdue for a major rework.

Brain emoji: 🧠
Cyborg emoji: 🦾
DNA emoji: 🧬
 
Well, I'm going to be an old man here and say Jack's power works very very much like the protaganist of the book "A Spell for Chameleon" by Piers Anthony. He had absolute inability to be harmed by magic, but his power was subtle enough to disguise such as coincidence lest someone in that heavily magic world take a simple sword to him.
It's less of what the power is (plot armor) and more on who has it really. Protagonists can have the fiat to be powerful or have advantages over the rest of the cast, because protagonists tend to come in two varieties in writing: classical hero, which has all the advantages of a protagonist so they could be the special snowflake, and classical anti-hero, which has all the disadvantages of an underdog so they have challenges to overcome. There are other varieties of protagonists, yeah, but classical hero protags are the most popular because they are wish-fulfillment. Heck, Joe falls into this category, though as far as his personality goes he has elements of an anti-hero as well.

The problem is when villains of the story get in on the plot armor. Not a lot of readers enjoy being made to hate someone, and then watch that someone get away with things they shouldn't be able to, because not only is it frustrating, it is also the opposite of wish-fulfillment in a way that reminds the reader that, yeah, that happens in life, get used to it buddy. Innocents get killed and murderers get away with it all of the time, people get scammed and the scammers get riches. That kind of thing is exemplified by Jack Slash, who is a literal unrepentant mass murderer that leads a band of other mass murderers, only to get away with it because the "author said so". Sure, it's dressed up in a lot of handwaves and power explanations (that are done outside of the story!), but that's basically how Jack Slash is designed as a character.

I still maintain to this day that Jack Slash is terrible writing. Noelle was great anti-villain, Coil was dastardly in his Bond villain-ism, and Cauldron is amazing for how much you could talk about their actions, but Jack Slash? Jack Slash is a one-dimensional character given far too much attention to by the setting because of simple author fiat.
 
And before the S9 arrive, Joe needs to upgrade his cranial implant.
Already happened quite the while ago.
This work was being directly piloted by me, and used the most advanced nanobots exclusively. It also required a staged shutdown of individual parts of my implant as I worked. Each section that was deactivated was flooded by nanobots that broke down and absorbed the silicon processors, substituting custom designed germanium based replacements. It was a delicate act of engineering to ensure compatibility, and an arduous process, but it was also a guarantee of survival against Shatterbird, which was worth the trouble and intense focus required.
 
It's less of what the power is (plot armor) and more on who has it really. Protagonists can have the fiat to be powerful or have advantages over the rest of the cast, because protagonists tend to come in two varieties in writing: classical hero, which has all the advantages of a protagonist so they could be the special snowflake, and classical anti-hero, which has all the disadvantages of an underdog so they have challenges to overcome. There are other varieties of protagonists, yeah, but classical hero protags are the most popular because they are wish-fulfillment. Heck, Joe falls into this category, though as far as his personality goes he has elements of an anti-hero as well.

The problem is when villains of the story get in on the plot armor. Not a lot of readers enjoy being made to hate someone, and then watch that someone get away with things they shouldn't be able to, because not only is it frustrating, it is also the opposite of wish-fulfillment in a way that reminds the reader that, yeah, that happens in life, get used to it buddy. Innocents get killed and murderers get away with it all of the time, people get scammed and the scammers get riches. That kind of thing is exemplified by Jack Slash, who is a literal unrepentant mass murderer that leads a band of other mass murderers, only to get away with it because the "author said so". Sure, it's dressed up in a lot of handwaves and power explanations (that are done outside of the story!), but that's basically how Jack Slash is designed as a character.
I agree mostly, but I do want to say that villainous plot armour can be done well. For example, Fel Seed from Worth the Candle.
 
I agree mostly, but I do want to say that villainous plot armour can be done well. For example, Fel Seed from Worth the Candle.
Yeah, but exceptions like those tend to be because of the character appeal of the villains in question, and if they can really be seen as competent as opposed to just relying on plot armor to achieve whatever they do. The problem is? Jack Slash is severely lacking on both of those fronts. His charisma is paper-thin and he relies more on his subordinates and his reputation to get things done, as opposed to doing things himself. Even in-universe, though Jack Slash is feared for being the leader of the S9, the ones seen as larger threats are often the big hitters like Crawler or Shatterbird, or Bonesaw and Sphere for their creations. Not Jack himself.

If Jack Slash was actually a character as opposed to a villainous plot device, then maybe his plot armor would be more acceptable. But again, he's largely one-dimensional with a "tragic" backstory in a novel universe where literally all superpowers are attached to having tragic backstories.
 
Yeah, but exceptions like those tend to be because of the character appeal of the villains in question, and if they can really be seen as competent as opposed to just relying on plot armor to achieve whatever they do. The problem is? Jack Slash is severely lacking on both of those fronts. His charisma is paper-thin and he relies more on his subordinates and his reputation to get things done, as opposed to doing things himself. Even in-universe, though Jack Slash is feared for being the leader of the S9, the ones seen as larger threats are often the big hitters like Crawler or Shatterbird, or Bonesaw and Sphere for their creations. Not Jack himself.

If Jack Slash was actually a character as opposed to a villainous plot device, then maybe his plot armor would be more acceptable. But again, he's largely one-dimensional with a "tragic" backstory in a novel universe where literally all superpowers are attached to having tragic backstories.
Once again I mostly agree with you, but the character I used as an example is actually also a villainous plot device, with almost no backstory whatsoever and 10-foot plot armour. I suppose the difference is that he is supposed to be recognisable as one, rather than a plot device masquerading as a real character.
 
Yeah, but exceptions like those tend to be because of the character appeal of the villains in question, and if they can really be seen as competent as opposed to just relying on plot armor to achieve whatever they do. The problem is? Jack Slash is severely lacking on both of those fronts. His charisma is paper-thin and he relies more on his subordinates and his reputation to get things done, as opposed to doing things himself. Even in-universe, though Jack Slash is feared for being the leader of the S9, the ones seen as larger threats are often the big hitters like Crawler or Shatterbird, or Bonesaw and Sphere for their creations. Not Jack himself.

If Jack Slash was actually a character as opposed to a villainous plot device, then maybe his plot armor would be more acceptable. But again, he's largely one-dimensional with a "tragic" backstory in a novel universe where literally all superpowers are attached to having tragic backstories.
what do you mean "one-dimensional" he both manipulates people and has a silly name which shows off his quirky side /j

in more serious terms i think it's fair to say that most of the antagonists in worm are largely one-dimensional and singling out jack slash as the only one that's written with only one-dimension is pretty silly. you can't say "ooh Coil was a great antagonist because He was a bond-villain" and then say "Jack Slash is a shit character who only has one-dimension because he's just a murderhobo" just because you don't like the role that Jack Slash plays in the story. Jack Slash and Coil both have contrived bullshit powers that narratively just serve to counteract all of the overwhelming shenanigans that parahumans can bring to bear for long enough to serve the plot.

Coil didn't get where he is because of 'competence', either; he got dealt a bullshit thinker power which he used to set himself up. Jack Slash is the same way with a different ideology and methodology.

"Villainous Plot Device" What else is he supposed to be? He's a Bad Guy who represents The Worst That Humanity Has To Offer. Did you want him to have a particular love for fine art or pineapples? He's only relevant to the story when he is committing abhorrent acts on screen.

Furthermore, Jack Does have an actual character, in that the Slaughterhouse Nine are a direct extension of his person and ideals and the character of Jack Slash cannot be taken in isolation from his role as the leader of the S9. Jack Slash without the broadcast shard manipulating other parahumans for him is not the same character. The role of Jack Slash in the story is to lead the slaughterhouse nine, the big bads, and he works fine in that role. His worldview motivates him to commit evil and drive others to do the same. He has character traits: he likes games, but he's a dishonest man who loves breaking the rules to his own games. he enjoys the thrill of balancing the needs and desires of the other members of the Slaughterhouse Nine. he dislikes 'blank slates' such as Scion, and has a stupid and incomplete view on human evolution that leads him to do bad things for fun.

it's fine to not like Jack Slash but I hardly think that it constitutes a literary critique of the way he is written. If there is an actual critique here that i missed beyond "Jack Slash is a one-dimensional villain" someone please point it out to me.
 
Hey everybody just realized Tattletale is going to Coil's base with a watch that has an Apeiron Scanner™ and is connected to Survey for the purpose of scaning Noelle yes, but will probably scan any other people who happen to be there as well. Don't worry Tattletale I'm sure that no person who will press all of Joe's buttons is going to be there. I mean Coil is using drugs to manipulate the mind not powers so he doesn't count as a Master.
 
Hey everybody just realized Tattletale is going to Coil's base with a watch that has an Apeiron Scanner™ and is connected to Survey for the purpose of scaning Noelle yes, but will probably scan any other people who happen to be there as well. Don't worry Tattletale I'm sure that no person who will press all of Joe's buttons is going to be there. I mean Coil is using drugs to manipulate the mind not powers so he doesn't count as a Master.
He could also get info on any of Coil's other "employees", as well as some of the Travellers and anyone else he's meeting with at the time
 
I have been quite behind in my responses to the thread and hope to be able to make up for that. I'm going to focus on thanking people for omakes, art, and proofreading at the moment, but I will try to get to some of the thread comments before the next chapter. Quite often I've bbeen able to address the same questions in the comment section on Ao3, which is archived on the Discord, but I know not everyone on the thread follows those sites, so I do my best to address things here as well.

And we have a prompt.

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That Other Fleet
Thank for the omake.
Great chapter, very worth staying up for. I like that Victor actually takes practical and ephemeral skills, I've seen a lot of authors ignore the little tricks that masters develop without really knowing them.



Second Lethe, meant to be Survey?
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There should be a starting quotation mark between 'explained.' and 'Even'.

Also, while I'm pretty sure Joe knows about philosopher's stones, does he know anything about human transmutation?
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Turn out, I have a thinker power that allows me to see into (part of) Victor's future.

And then you know, surprised Pikachu face before he meets Truth...or what passes for that creepy bastard around here.
Thanks for the meme!
"..Survey information.."


Can't wait to see this inevitably blow up in Victor's face :V
It's gonna be glorious!
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I'm fairly sure, that is the wrong acronym. Unless that is my understanding of the context is very wrong
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Goddamn WOW.
So I start reading the chapter, and am very impressed with the understanding and application of Victor's power, and what this makes him as a person, as well as contextualizing him in the Empire (which very few people do).

And then the bombshell lands.
Ho. Lee. Shieeeeet.
And then the other bombshell lands.
AAAAAaaaaahhhhhh! :D
Why you do this to me T^T

Great job. Looking forward to what comes.




Ah yes, the classic 'Warriors are afraid of ghosts' - now with a Worm spin.
Makes sense, tbh.


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PRT


weather


Stillons'?


that* he was happy to


Not*


site*


site*


sight* lol ^^


Rephrase.
How Bonesaw revived dead capes?
Bonesaw's revival of dead capes?
Other?


Survey* information
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@LordRoustabout
You might want to check your usage of "on sight" and "on site". You're regularly mixing them up.
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I am a huge fan of Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, so the latest interlude stuck in my brain. This is what I managed to dislodge.


Victor came to with a gasp. He frantically looked around, but he wasn't in his workshop anymore. He'd attempted to bring back Lena, but something went wrong. That thing hadn't been her. Then, something tore him apart and transported him to this endless white void.
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Kaiser's

-Nothing to bounce the laser off of.-

of the
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So after it was revealed that Alchemy had slipped out of the bag, I got the idea of Cauldron trying to preserve or promote it; after all, Alchemy was a kind of Superpower, and the more people that had Superpowers, the better chance humanity has against Scion. I imagined that Alchemy getting out into the world could be the catalyst to Joe meeting and interacting with Cauldron. This Omake is the result of that train of thought. I hope you enjoy it!


Cauldron Negotiations
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Minor corrections:
Outside of caps society > cape
2 usages of anomalously that a·non·y·mous·ly might be better for.

Thanks as always
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You've got woodworking listed in the perks gained. Yet the chapter has him gain a robotics workshop
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That should be cape I believe.

I believe there is something missing between these two words because this sentence doesn't sound quite right. That or it is just phrased improperly.

You can't do that if...
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Workshop: Robotics

Great chapter, thank you very much!
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I'm assuming this means can't cause it would make more sense @LordRoustabout
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Part of it I think is just a lot of the crafting details and research and development in general being only talked about broadly now or having it done in the background (duplicates). For Waste Not, at this point most material he can just transmute and there are cases where the 50% chance thing isn't something he wants to use if what he's working on is complex and dangerous especially if it's something like new experimental magitech or exotic matter/energy research/applications.


IIRC, it was due to that perk being limited to machinery and there being diminishing returns since to repeat hybridize you need to actually be able to understand the resulting hybridized product which often is or becomes incomprehensible due to the amount of fiat involved in making the hybrization work. Also, hybridizing is already being done with stuff but the results are more general buffs via stacking existing capabilities (not mixing to output/create new unique ones).


I'd suggest a reread of the two chapters since a lot of things can be missed during the first reading as well as some of the WoG in the AO3 comments.

Like others have said, Joe plans for it to be a complete stomp. He's gonna counter whatever they throw around and with the level of prep including surveillance, Joe isn't gonna let things like hostage taking to succeed or even take place (in Brockton at least since I expect the Nine to have hostages from outside the city).

All the reasons from before on why he doesn't launch an attack still stand. You have to remember that there are national and international consequences. The ripples will affect hundreds of thousands at least. The reason he doesn't just drone army/nuke the Nine is because of the fallout. If he goes after those with kill orders, then other groups that have kill orders or highly contentious legal standings are gonna panic and do desperate things to prepare for the expecting conflict. Joe can see the scale of this especially due to the alien/inhuman perspective and knowledge he has which is why we also read his thoughts on why he's accepted this course of action as it is one that minimizes death.

He understands that getting all these groups around the globe panicked all at once is not a smart thing. I see preemptively and unexpectedly attacking the Nine in the way some have suggest as basically putting Joe on a clock of escalating incidents around the globe of panicked and desperate groups wrecking havoc while pillaging for resources, gathering territory, securing leverage, recruiting/conscripting people, etc. Not to mention all the other groups that'd react badly such as governments and precogs and thinkers including the Simurgh. The way Joe plans to do it will avoid that by maintaining the balance and it'll give him more control of the response especially when he does eventually decide to act outside the city and expand his influence and clearly go against the mercenary image/contract-bound expectations. It's also great politically due to the controlled framing, strong justification, powerful show of force, and goodwill that'd be earned from defending the city again, this time from the Nine.

Joe wants to cut off any chance of the Nine getting away. He wants a guaranteed victory. It was mentioned in the previous chapter how there were a lot of unknowns/uncertain factors such as the sensing/detection abilities (Crawler, Shatterbird, unknown new members) or tech/creations (Mannequin, Bonesaw, also remember the parahuman disappearances Survey mentioned) of the Nine. The Siberian's unstoppable force and immovable object thing is no joke especially with how it can be shared and could combo with stuff. That alone would give worry for an avenue of escape especially since Joe doesn't know about the specific weakness of Manton being the Master. Plus there's Jack's power which is another wildcard to Joe as well as any other prep the Nine have. Anyway, these factors are why Joe is basically preparing a mouse trap.


'and remember the training' or 'don't forget the training'
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Either remove the don't or change the remember into a forget.
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perhaps don't forget?

can't


Should be "robotics"

After reading the chap i can't help but wonder what Matrix /40k Laboratium interactions look like...
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it should be robotics, no?
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Ah, I'd wondered what'd happened with that.


No, you fool! You don't know what you've done! D:
This is going to be awesome.


Was expecting a '*sniff* they grow up so fast...'

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The mental image had me chuckling.


aaand I read that in Narrator voice™.


<3
Both sentences just... ahh, WAFF.

Do wonder if Joe realizes that the latter applies to him as well, though.


Little Matrix is growing up ^^

Hrm. Now I need to backtrack and see if we've ever seen any interactions between The Matrix and the 40k lab. I don't think so.

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Last chapter

nation."* - missing a period.


renowned*

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This chapter

Genuinely not sure what that intends to mean.


cape*


anonymously*


don't forget* the training


but its* use*


Observations do*, or Observation does*.


Rephrase or elaborate. The second sentence doesn't connect with the first, tenses are wrong.
Or replace 'does' with 'has'.
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Thinking

cape society?

don't remember? do you mean don't forget?

it's use against

You can't do that if?

stopped us from?
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I needed to get this out of my head, okay?

OMAKE: Wrong Jack
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Thanks for the update!

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Bind? Bend?

I assume 'she' means Survey, this came out of the blue. A sentence before this might be missing.
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I'd swear there was a line to the effect that she already has in the last maybe 3 chapters.

Typos
snatched*


cores*
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had
concrete


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I think it should be "but saw no reason" instead of "but so no reason".


Should probably be 'thinker' instead of 'tinker'.
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but saw no reason

between thinker and master?
and is this your understanding of Jack canon ability or an AU element you intentionally introduced?
and in my opinion the line is that a thinker can only work with existing levers sure they can know even deeply hidden levers but they can only accomplish as much as a skilled con artist who has a thoroughly researched background on the subject can

of course that's still fairly scary but still not a master in my opinion

Slash or Mannequin
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Based on the Wildbow stance of 'Jack does not lose to parahumans' and the canon example of Aisha deciding not to kill him when she had the chance, there is definitely a master effect in play from Jack's shard as well as considerable information being fed to him. This is more playing out that dynamic from the perspective of someone not affected by it, rather than any AU element of the story.
>learn

Thanks again for the read
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(Midjourney) Matrix painting of the campus:

Thanks. Really incredible and does an excellent job of capturing the feel of the virtual environment.
Effective?


Saw


shinier


I think it should be "out to the real world"?


thinker


Supercarrier? Not supercomputer?


or


Will the next chapter be in Uppercrust's pov?
ngl I'm a bit disappointed cuz the call wasn't included. But looking forward to next week's chapter, as always!
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Mentioned this on Ao3, but I am planning a section from Uppercrust's POV, but it will likely be an addendum to a section from Joe's perspective.
@LordRoustabout you are using Tinker instead of Thinker.

Tinker are the schizotech makers.
Thinkers are the fake ESP parahumans
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Pick Up
Mr. Hebert: Hey, Joe?

Joe: Mr. Hebert?

Mr. Hebert: Yeah, it's me. I finally got a cell phone. I was wondering if you could do me a favor.
Thanks for the omake.
<AGREEMENT>

Wednesday, April 6th. Night
A lone guy lies in his bedding, in an imposible place, trying to communicate with a strange benefactor.
Thanks for the omake.
So after "Matrix's" version of art. I experimented with different AI's generations, and generated small areas of the description. Then worked to merge them as a single piece. This is my (and several AIs) rendition of Aisha's painting, as a full watercolor painting


Full HQ version: shorturl.at/EWY38
If you have seen my previous "artistic contributions" (if you want to be generous), you might notice that I don't draw anything "original", as an aphantasic I don't have a working "Mind's Eye", I can't visualize, but I do have an imagination, and I like to think I'm creative, but visually, the best expression of that creativity is working with things that already exist, modifying them iteratively until they reach a satisfying result. So I get an Idea and hunt "pieces" that I can "paste" in a collage/pastiche of things to be modified. Basically memes, but for everything. anyway, just wanted to... explain why things I post are always recreations of other work, not because I'm lazy or want to steal things.
Thanks for the work. AI art is a fascinating field and it's great to see what can be done with it.
 
You know, since Joe is a Fate Servant with 10x more luck than normal, I wonder if that multiplier is applied to the Luck/Fortune of Burning Bright (never saw Binbougami Ga! myself, but I assume it compatible) or if it is added to the Fortune. Also, if Fortune Energy doesn't already have this property, would it have Fate Luck's ability to defy fate, similar as to when two mana pools merge allowing different magic types to work with each other i.e. his familiar's ability sense Strike Witch's magic can be used on any magic.

Being a Heroic Spirit might also do funky things with the age requirements for how much Fortune he can use. Mystic Forge is timeless, so that isn't what I mean, rather, the fact he is a legend formed of Crafters throughout history is the point of my consideration.
LordRoustabout on AO3 said:
Capacity for fortune energy and quantity of fortune energy are tracked slightly differently from regular luck, but Joe's E-rank luck will stack with his new luck based abilities. It is a additive increase, rather than multiplicative, so you won't see a massive effect (it will be mostly overshadowed by the effects of Burning Bright) but I'm still accounting for it.
I just checked AO3, and the 10x Luck thing was answered here, for those who don't often go there or discord (like myself). The age thing wasn't directly answered here, but Joe will have a large capacity, so maybe?
LordRoustabout on AO3 said:
Fortune energy has a direct relation to luck. The amount of fortune (or misfortune) energy a person contains impacts how lucky they are. There's a limit on how much a person can contain, but that limit is separate from the amount of energy they contain. The Jump describes the soul as a container that can be filled with fortune energy, with the capacity gradually expanding with time. Joe both has a massive amount of energy and rapid growth of his capacity. He can also drain the fortune energy from other people , up to his (significant) maximum capacity. In addition to luck, fortune energy can be used for a significant number of purposes, with a lot of cross over with chi or spiritual energy based powers.
Emphasis mine.

@LordRoustabout the link in your signature still points to the trivia tv trope page instead of wog as intended. Just a heads up.
 
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So, first I don't know if this has come up in thread already because I don't actually read the thread because it goes by too fast for my avaliable time.

But I've been thinking about something for a few updates now.

Joe hasn't said or thought anything regarding Dragon, at all, for a while.

I think this is an actual IC Plan rather than narrative focus issues.

Here's my idea.

I think Joe is using his Semblance to completely negate Dragon until he's cleared up his current docket and figured out how to stop "the Master in charge of Dragon."

How does he ignore Dragon so thoroughly?

Fate Hypnosis Magic and all of his other bullshit working together to create a "Not Even A Memory To Think Back About" field in Joe's head.

How is Joe making steady progress on the problem beyond waiting for a random Power roll to solve everything?

Whenever duplicates spawn and check the Duplicates Only Forums, they see a pinned post explaining the entire situation, letting them work on it without Joe's knowledge because Joe does his best to not think or touch on the things they work on.

This allows Joe to completely ignore the impact that Dragon could have on his plans, from the S9 hunt and actions beyond to his preparations for dealing with Coil and the other gangs, while actually accounting for those variables and not in retrospect holding a potential idiot ball about the entire thing.
 
This allows Joe to completely ignore the impact that Dragon could have on his plans, from the S9 hunt and actions beyond to his preparations for dealing with Coil and the other gangs, while actually accounting for those variables and not in retrospect holding a potential idiot ball about the entire thing.
I... don't think that's how Joe's Semblance works. When the duplicate blasted Joe to test the Semblance, he (the duplicate) still scorched and messed up the ground. Joe and the ground he was standing on were unaffected, but not the rest of the ground. Dragon would still be able to have an impact on Joe's actions and plans, just not by directly impacting Joe himself.
 
I... don't think that's how Joe's Semblance works. When the duplicate blasted Joe to test the Semblance, he (the duplicate) still scorched and messed up the ground. Joe and the ground he was standing on were unaffected, but not the rest of the ground. Dragon would still be able to have an impact on Joe's actions and plans, just not by directly impacting Joe himself.

Probably!

But I can imagine Joe trying it anyway, so it's at least omakeable :V
 
Thirty-five liters of water. Twenty kilograms of carbon. Four liters of ammonia. One and a half kilograms of lime. Eight hundred grams of phosphorus. Two hundred and fifty grams of salt. A hundred grams of saltpeter. Eighty grams of sulfur. Seven and a half grams of fluorine. Five grams of iron. Three grams of silicon. Combined with trace amounts of fifteen other elements and he could make a human body, a living human body.
alright, this has been bugging me for a while and I finally remembered to comment on it.
while it is a cool line in the anime it is very wrong. aside from not using consistent units and an inability to decide between elements and molecules the proportions are very off. if you want to get a bit closer here:
Oxygen43 kg61.4%
Carbon16 kg22.9%
Hydrogen7.0 kg10.0%
Nitrogen1.8 kg2.6%
Calcium1000 g1.43%
Phosphorus780 g1.11%
Potassium140 g0.20%
Sulphur140 g0.20%
Chlorine100 g0.14%
Sodium95 g0.14%
Magnesium19 g0.03%
Iron4.2 g0.01%
Fluorine2600 mg0.00371%
Zinc2300 mg0.00328%
Copper72 mg0.00010%
Iodine13 mg0.00002%
Manganese12 mg0.00002%
Molybdenum9.5 mg0.00001%
Selenium8 mg0.00001%
Chromium6.6 mg0.00001%
Cobalt1.5 mg0.000002%
there are probably more trace elements but I am stopping here.
 
Yeah the thing that goes unmentioned in Full Metal Alchemist is that that list of ingredients isn't just wrong, it's likely in code. we see later in the anime when Ed and Al are researching the philosopher stone that this sort of thing isn't even uncommon, given that they where researching Human Transmutation at the time it's not that much of a stretch to assume Hoenhime encrypted his notes while he was at it.
 
Wonder when Joe ignoring Skidmark (by ironically falling for Skidmark's deliberate cultivation of his own appearance, to contrast with Joe's power-backed unintentional PR issues) is going to bite him in the ass...

Also, anyone thinking the boiling second triggers/sehzen range issues with Vista and Parian (which LR's hinted will get exacerbated by the Game Grid) are being manipulated by March-the-shard-cancer?
 
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