I mean, have you seen the rich these days and their yards? Joe can probably have at least 100 kilometers of space if he wants to.
Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)
- Thread starter LordRoustabout
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No, I think they're okay with the AIs because they now have souls, which classifies them as being Machine Spirits or something. Unless they knew about the AIs before they got souls, in which case I dunno.
I am going to predict it now.
While joe tries to deal with the 9. Uber and leet will strike then, allowing S9 to escape and cause bullshit damage.
I am saying it now. If that happens, i will be so pissed.
If it doesn't happen, than i will happily admit i am an idiot.
While joe tries to deal with the 9. Uber and leet will strike then, allowing S9 to escape and cause bullshit damage.
I am saying it now. If that happens, i will be so pissed.
If it doesn't happen, than i will happily admit i am an idiot.
This chapter felt very much like it was focused on addressing the criticism of the previous chapter. Admittedly that's in part because I read way too much of the arguments, I think it would feel more natural if I didn't have that context. It's unfortunate that people had such a negative reaction. For what it's worth in case I wasn't clear in my previous review I really liked the previous chapter the switch of perspectives was really well executed. The choice of Mimi as the window into the Nine was a very good choice that provided a lot of insight without being too much in the head of an obvious monster. And the way Joe reacted to the Nine coming felt like it made a lot of sense with all the things he's trying to balance. This one also had fun moments I particularly enjoyed Garment going full aggro, the bits of added characterization on the Titans, and Aisha insisting that no actually she really didn't want to know.
Rolls Analysis:
Knowledge (200): Only Star Trek Skills and the Titanfall reverse engineering perk was available out of 15 total clusters.
Personal Reality (300-200): There's actually another perk I'm surprised we didn't get here called Adaptive Inactive Storage my conclusion here is that because it references actions taken between jumps that it's been removed from the roll tables.
Magitech (200): Magitech starts at 400.
Toolkits (300-100): Well we finally rolled the two thirds chance of getting something instead of the one third chance of not. The main question is whether this is now going to be a redirect to Personal Reality or if it will instead be removed outright based on previous WoG. Well that and if we'll ever roll The Toolkit. So many close calls hehehe.
Size (300): Size starts at 400
The Reference doc statistics code has been updated to account for adding in 50 point perks to balance out uneven point balances
Rolls Analysis:
Knowledge (200): Only Star Trek Skills and the Titanfall reverse engineering perk was available out of 15 total clusters.
Personal Reality (300-200): There's actually another perk I'm surprised we didn't get here called Adaptive Inactive Storage my conclusion here is that because it references actions taken between jumps that it's been removed from the roll tables.
Magitech (200): Magitech starts at 400.
Toolkits (300-100): Well we finally rolled the two thirds chance of getting something instead of the one third chance of not. The main question is whether this is now going to be a redirect to Personal Reality or if it will instead be removed outright based on previous WoG. Well that and if we'll ever roll The Toolkit. So many close calls hehehe.
Size (300): Size starts at 400
The Reference doc statistics code has been updated to account for adding in 50 point perks to balance out uneven point balances
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- Location
- USA
My money is on Dragon, given she's no doubt watching the area like a hawk, she'd be the one to react quickest to him making an appearance. Then with one cape in the 'know' Broadcast can work its shenanigans.
That and she's narratively drifted off into the background.
So the different factors that could make the Nine encounter go wildly off the rails.
1. Noelle, if the S9 get Noelle'd things become a lot worse
2. Dragon and Dragonhunters, if Jack gets to Dragon or Saint uses Ascalon, lots of things get chaotic
3. Leet, his game grid doing unknown things
4. Uber and Zombie March
5. Bakuda, tries to make a deal with Bonesaw or kidnap Panacea
6. Victor, tries Alchemy shenanigans
7. Uppercrust, gets killed by Mannequin
8. Damsel of Distress, takes a shot at someone.
9. Butcher, dies
10. Case 53s, lots more actors
11. Vista, second triggers
12. Endbringers, attack
Anything I missed?
1. Noelle, if the S9 get Noelle'd things become a lot worse
2. Dragon and Dragonhunters, if Jack gets to Dragon or Saint uses Ascalon, lots of things get chaotic
3. Leet, his game grid doing unknown things
4. Uber and Zombie March
5. Bakuda, tries to make a deal with Bonesaw or kidnap Panacea
6. Victor, tries Alchemy shenanigans
7. Uppercrust, gets killed by Mannequin
8. Damsel of Distress, takes a shot at someone.
9. Butcher, dies
10. Case 53s, lots more actors
11. Vista, second triggers
12. Endbringers, attack
Anything I missed?
- Location
- Behind you
Aisha, no matter how some people apparently don't like you, but damn, you are the freaking Heart of this team! 
I wonder if we have reached the record of threats happening at the same time in a Worm fic, I think the only ones left are suprise Accord-kohai out of nowhere, the ICU, Nilbog, and the Fallen to complete the threat bingo card at this point.
EDIT: Huh, talking about Accord-kohai and the ICU in the same sentence spmehow brought to mind the image of a weird love triangle romcom....
Accord-kohai: You will not take sempai from this country, you scanks!
ICU: I would like to see you try to stop is, you shrimp!
Orangutan Magnesium: *ignores them and goes back to be a family man*
I wonder if we have reached the record of threats happening at the same time in a Worm fic, I think the only ones left are suprise Accord-kohai out of nowhere, the ICU, Nilbog, and the Fallen to complete the threat bingo card at this point.
EDIT: Huh, talking about Accord-kohai and the ICU in the same sentence spmehow brought to mind the image of a weird love triangle romcom....
Accord-kohai: You will not take sempai from this country, you scanks!
ICU: I would like to see you try to stop is, you shrimp!
Orangutan Magnesium: *ignores them and goes back to be a family man*
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- Location
- Germany
1 & 2: It has been repeatedly stated that Joe won't give the S9 the chance to do anything. As soon as they get to the outskirts of the city, they get instantly taken out with overwhelming force. So the Nine won't meet Noelle and Jack won't have a chance to speak to Dragon, while Saint won't just activate Ascalon willy-nilly.
3 & 4: Admittedly, they could do something, but that would require them to take action exactly in the moment Joe attacks, and since they won't know the S9 are coming, that would be some serious coincident.
5: Bakuda won't have a chance to find out that Bonesaw is in town. Similarly, trying to kidnap Panacea would be an absolute last resort, as getting her would require Bakuda to expose her last remaining forces, meaning this would absolutely be a death-or-glory attack.
6: Again, theoretically possible, but it'll take some time before Victor feels confident enough to do something serious, let alone get the necessary knowhow to actually do so.
7: See number 1 & 2, this won't happen.
8: Damsel won't just randomly attack someone, she has proven she's too cunning to do something so stupid.
9: Possible, but would be a massive coincident and wouldn't immediately affect Joe's operation, so he'd just deal with it afterwards.
10: Their presence won't disrupt the Celestial Forge's strike, they might destabilize BB, but once again, the S9 is dead as soon as they get to BB and won't be given the chance to do anything.
11: Per WoG Vista is supremely unlikely to Second Trigger, as unlike what the fandom believes, the prerequisite conditions are extremely difficult to achieve.
12: It's still too early.
- Pronouns
- He, Him
I just want things to be resolved finally. I want loose ends to be wrapped up, I want to not have every single terrible thing hanging over the plot like they're all about to crash into eachother at the exact same time. I want to have timeskips actually be used for once instead of reading what seems like a by the minutes of Joe's every single day, every inconsequential little tidbit of everything he has going on or can do now or wants to do soon, etc.
I want us to be out of this hell where Joe is so scared of how people react it prevents him from doing actual good in the world, where he's cowed into being a nonentity unless something absolutely terrible happens in spite of all his power.
I'm tired. I'm tired of skimming chapters because in spite of them being 10-20k words in length, more than half of that is exorbitant amounts of introspection, thoughts, and hyper analysis that could easily be summed up in half the time and words. I'm tired of the fatigue I get when thinking about future chapters because in all likelihood 100k words from now can go by, and we could still be no closer to actually fighting the S9, the Teeth, Coil, Bakuda's Signal being cracked, Leviathan.
Edit: Yea I understand a lot of this is based on feelings, and I am being a bit hyperbolic in my opinions on how things are happening, but I do think I have some legitimacy when 1 million words in and we have yet to even come to coil or the other gangs, let alone leviathan.
I want us to be out of this hell where Joe is so scared of how people react it prevents him from doing actual good in the world, where he's cowed into being a nonentity unless something absolutely terrible happens in spite of all his power.
I'm tired. I'm tired of skimming chapters because in spite of them being 10-20k words in length, more than half of that is exorbitant amounts of introspection, thoughts, and hyper analysis that could easily be summed up in half the time and words. I'm tired of the fatigue I get when thinking about future chapters because in all likelihood 100k words from now can go by, and we could still be no closer to actually fighting the S9, the Teeth, Coil, Bakuda's Signal being cracked, Leviathan.
Edit: Yea I understand a lot of this is based on feelings, and I am being a bit hyperbolic in my opinions on how things are happening, but I do think I have some legitimacy when 1 million words in and we have yet to even come to coil or the other gangs, let alone leviathan.
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First everyone was calling Survey fat. Now you had to make an issue about Matrix's chasis size...
Aren't the star trek skills still in knowledge also you forgot the last failed roll on Size at 300 which does mean the next one is for 400 so hopefully we get something bigger next time.
ExploerTM
Ruin has found you at last!
- Location
- Russia, Perm
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
This has not rights to be this funny
See, Joe planning to not even let S9 announce their arrival let alone get into the city proper. You bet that people learn that S9 in BB only when a giant ass pillar of fire, lasers, magic, psi and biotic will emerge on the horizon.
That's because he's not if you bothered to read the thread.
This should probably put in Informational otherwise we'll keep getting confused people that jump to wrong conclusions.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
As far as i understand, the problem is the heat it would bring, the objective of the celestial forge as of now is the death of the entities and thus scion, the other things are secondary, as joe is worried of a end of the world/s scenario.
With that in mind, they don't want to fight their public evaluations and models too much, as then others will think they are unstable, and any passing evaluation would show they are, as they lack every bit of data (like in lisa's case), so they can potentially be targeted by the world, wasting time, resources and even information on something thats not as important as their goal, plus the more they deviate from predicted models the more chances contesa and simurgh get to know they aren't predicting everything, and that can result in complications that can make difficult the prospect of killing the warrior entity.
So until they have a power or synergy strong enough to kill the warrior without chances of failure or to keep the world at bay with no complications? They will try to minimize the chances of not meeting their goal, as yeah people dying is bad, but fully habitable worlds dying is worse.
Edit: a quick ctr+f and readers mode shows that he know of the threat at least as far as chapter 5
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Well... Joe's Duplicates unlocked the secrets of Teigu construction, which are confirmed to be applied to Tetra once she's turned into a Kamui soonish. Joe stated that he would start looking into scrying pools and the like via Spiritron Acceleration. Aisha got exposed to the Apocyan Catsuit, which may or may not put a damper on her being given an Irrigo Catsuit.
I'm sorry to hear that, but if all you're getting from reading this fic is fatigue, it might be healthier to take a break from it.
The closest resolution to the plot point would be in 3-5 chapter down the line (So, about a month), with Uppercrust meeting. Even then, even if it will resolve the "Uppecrust's condition" point, it will also introduce "The Elite Civil War" point, so not much of resolution. If you want to see the next "station of canon" (Well, the closest thing we will have), probably better off with coming back in a year and a half, when we will get to "Endbringer vs. The World" fight.
- Location
- Somewhere in The Woods
So, Joe's the handsome upperclassman running the Arts and Crafts Club after school?
- Location
- USA
You're not wrong, but just because Joe's intention is to not give the 9 the opportunity to counter him doesn't mean it'll all work out as he hopes.
The Siberian on her own negates a lot of what he has to bring to bear, compounded by the fact that he has no idea, currently, how she works plus given that she's almost constantly in contact/near Bonesaw it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine that the two of them survive Joe's blitz and that's assuming Jack isn't going into full-on caution mode and having the Siberian grant her invulnerability to more than Bonesaw as they approach the city. (He certainly seemed on guard about whether or not to head to BB after all)
To be fair, like you said, a large portion of the word count is devoted to explaining and incorporating Joe's power gains into the story, so it's not really a good metric to use. The story's pacing was already addressed and isn't going to be adjusted so *shrug*... maybe step away and come back in a few months or so? It reads easier when there's no waiting between chapters to emphasize the slow pace of events.
No sense sticking around turning what should be an enjoyable experience into frustration.
I'm rather grateful that lordR bossman will most likely take 10+ chapters to go over the plan because by then, everyone would have analysed the plan and have decided whether it was contrived, thus breaking peoples SoB, or so well put together that I can kick back, grab a cold one and read a 10k-20k chapter on the S9 getting there ass handed to them.
I guess people are still on about this because somewhere along the way, people have forgotten what Joe can or cannot do, but maybe that just be projecting, I don't know.
Also, I would very much like to know what will happen to Riley soon cause while I'd like to see Jack Slash get an RKO from out of nowhere from Fleet and then see him get the mother of all wedgies from joe live streaming the whole thing on youtube. I don't want to see the 12-YEAR-old girl get killed.
I guess people are still on about this because somewhere along the way, people have forgotten what Joe can or cannot do, but maybe that just be projecting, I don't know.
Also, I would very much like to know what will happen to Riley soon cause while I'd like to see Jack Slash get an RKO from out of nowhere from Fleet and then see him get the mother of all wedgies from joe live streaming the whole thing on youtube. I don't want to see the 12-YEAR-old girl get killed.
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Foxy Boxes
[Verified Box]
- Location
- England
I like this chapter, but it felt... Off? Compressed?
As if it were a video game and you'd put off interacting with the other characters until now and thus have a backlog to work through.
As if it were a video game and you'd put off interacting with the other characters until now and thus have a backlog to work through.
Foxy Boxes
[Verified Box]
- Location
- England
It felt like the chapter was about to lead into the Godrobe creation, but the Additional Space interrupted, and the Joe went off to talk to Matrix instead.
Garment showed off a highly lethal armoury that probably won't make a difference.
Joe clarified that he'd take the PR hit to save people if needed as an FU to the argument.
...
Yeah, I can't think of anything of actual import.
Overall there were a lot of lead-ins to what sound like fun and interesting moments, that were then ignored for more lead-ins.
Even Aisha finding the catsuit was barely referenced, rather than fleshed out into something entertaining.
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JamesB
You needed worthy opponents.
- Location
- Kansas
The garage is now plenty big enough for a Bolo to appear. Though, I don't know that adding a late-model Bolo to Joe's arsenal notably increases the amount of damage he can dish out. Adding another AI-type character doesn't add a lot either. However, I still want one. Hellbore cannons are cool, and the Simurgh would be very much a target to be engaged by its ground-to-space range. Ziz being unable to see it coming from the anti-precog effect of Joe just makes it better.
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