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Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

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Oh, the dramatic irony... its almost too much to bear. A passing beginner's "mastery" of transmutation makes Lethe a master of mundane material sciences, the way that Victor gloats about death and resurrection as if Aperion doesn't have a dozen better ways and methods, the mentions of power without "crippling cost" while not even starting to understand the very basics of equivalent exchange, it honestly puts the CELESTIAL Forge into perspective, how much higher and greater the Team is compared to the mortal parahumans, scrabbling around in the dust.

I'm willing to bet that the limbs and organs sacrificed to Truth have a mark on the soul and a conceptual significance such that Othalla can't just regen back any losses... that realisation will be delicious. And this interleude really makes makes me admire the sheer skill and organisational ability Roust has, adding another plate effortlessly to the odd-dozen already spinning in the air.
 
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Holy shit Victor is going to lose his mind when he realizes the TRUTH.
Hopefully literally.
Also this was a fairly good chapter, the idea of alchemy spreading is frightening but not unreasonable, I can't wait for when Alexandria tries to clap Aperion with it.

Does this go by the first anime where homunculi are failed human transmutation, or the second where homunculi are philosopher stones given life and sin?
 
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Paloswag said:
I knew teaching Aisha would backfire somehow. But I found myself surprised with the twist, regardless.

So are we going to get a Lust expie?
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Did OP ever mention which FMA the skill was from? Cause if it came from Brotherhood, then we'll at most see an already dying body, and probably not even that. It took a whole body plus a leg to reach that result, and I doubt Truth takes the size of the body into consideration so Victor's older body wont help him any.
 
Paloswag said:
I knew teaching Aisha would backfire somehow. But I found myself surprised with the twist, regardless.

So are we going to get a Lust expie?
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Considering the mentions of Othala's sister and Victor's first fiance, possibly but very unlikely. And that outcome might just mean that the Empire self destructs before Joe can even do anything to deal with them.

After all, Victor is basically the Empire's lynchpin. He's the only one holding up the organization with all of its friction and conflicting members, especially at such a trying time. If he ever attempts Human Transmutation and even just gets crippled in the process? That all collapses.

And the worst of it? Homunculi, when they are born by human transmutation, are painfully fragile. They are existences that could end at any moment until they are provided Philosopher's Stones or souls to maintain their existence. And with Victor likely in no position to fix that problem when he realizes that mistake - if he even survives said mistake to figure it out - the exchange would be the Empire's lynchpin traded for a failed biotinker's experiment.
 
While Apeiron can understand this with his many soul powers I desperately want him to roll the Truth perk just so he is aware of the effect as it was intended when he encounters it.
 
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LordRoustabout said:
but Victor had a way to step beyond them. To take their art to a point only someone with his knowledge and skill could. He could control life.
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Victor you idiotic corpse, you're playing with things beyond your understanding.

Also, Joe literally created life with fleet and survey, and also soul duping, Vicky boy is so out of his depth it's funny again.

Also, he stole that skill from Lethe. Why does he think she can't do it? pride?
 
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And the funny thing is that if Victor stayed in his lane and just kept to regular transmutation, even if anyone from the CF could still just as easily shut him, he would have become an even bigger powerhouse in the Empire - maybe even to the level where they would have to forgive him.

But alas, hubris.
 
Also, the fact that Victor doesn't think about possible innate drawbacks to this foreign, unprecedented power that relies upon skill and knowledge unlike basically no other seen on Bet and just blunders into it with such unearned arrogance is just. And like it's clear that Victor's a smart guy! The way that Roust depicts him using his actual power with such skill and competence is essentially unheard of, but Victor's working with an Out of Context wierdass shaker-tinker power that he knows nothing about, so ofcourse in his desperation for an edge he just ignores any possible warning signs! Like outside of maybe tinker powers the concept of Equivalent Exchange is basically unheard of in terms of power mechanics, especially more direct ones like shakers because the Shard handles all the backend, so of course this arrogant prick thinks that he can just bootleg his way to dominion over life and death without "CRIPPPING COST"!
 
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insertname099 said:
Also, the fact that Victor doesn't think about possible innate drawbacks to this foreign, unprecedented power that relies upon skill and knowledge unlike basically no other seen on Bet and just blunders into it with such unearned arrogance is just. And like it's clear that Victor's a smart guy! The way that Roust depicts him using his actual power with such skill and competence is essentially unheard of, but Victor's working with an Out of Context wierdass shaker-tinker power that he knows nothing about, so ofcourse in his desperation for an edge he just ignores any possible warning signs! Like outside of maybe tinker powers the concept of Equivalent Exchange is basically unheard of in terms kd power mechanics, especially more direct ones like shakers because the Shard handles all the backend, so of course this arrogant prick thinks that he can just bootleg his way to dominion over life and death without "CRIPPPING COST"!
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To be fair, it might be his shard pushing him. After all, look at all this tasty data!
 
Ah Victor. You are going to be eaten by something. It could be yourself, it could be truth, or if you get far enough, your own creations. Homonculi will not be so easily controlled.
 
He uses the pipes to spread the Philosopher's Stone beneath the nation of Amestris. The purpose behind this is to act as a barrier between the tectonic energy of the earth's crust, where Amestrian Alchemy gets its energy from, so that he can stop others from using Alchemy at any time.
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Do you think Joe will develop something to block alchemy when he finds out other people are using it?
 
Thanks for the chapter.
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Lethe might control matter and memory. Apeiron might control powers. Lethe information, Fleet speed, and so on for the rest of the titans of the forge, but Victor had a way to step beyond them. To take their art to a point only someone with his knowledge and skill could. He could control life.
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Victor, You done F'ed up...

I don't know of you'll be the next S class thread or a footnote because you failed, but no matter what you are going to give Piggot Nightmares.
 
Andorxor said:
If you imagine people loosing the skills Victor mentioned you understand how big of a monster he is.
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Pretty much. All of those marriage skills he used to make his relationship with Othala work? That's a trail of suddenly failing marriages, collapsed relationships, and inexplicable divorces as what was originally a working relationship suddenly wasn't anymore.

Someone out there won't even realize that they lost the ability to self-reflect, because with what ability could they understand themselves now? People having mental breakdowns, committing suicide as they collapse in a stressful life suddenly devoid of the necessary coping skills, doctors losing their license after having killed patients in forgetting how to do surgery.

Victor is a terrible human being. And the worst part is that you know that the only reason he has no empathy is because it would be counterproductive.
 
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Well damn. The skill thief is playing around with mystical forces of which he has the barest idea of how to grasp at, much less the actual rules and concerns of said power. And then trying to fuck around with Life/Death? Yeah, that rarely ends well or even neutrally.
 
LordRoustabout said:
"It was already a common theory that Apeiron was a power tinker, though the confidence the Protectorate assigns to that assumption lends it additional weight." Victor explained. Even so, there is no precedent for a cluster of the size they are suggesting."
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There should be a starting quotation mark between 'explained.' and 'Even'.

Also, while I'm pretty sure Joe knows about philosopher's stones, does he know anything about human transmutation?
 
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