Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

Satisfying chapter though. The conclusion was enjoyable and reading how it affected everyone.

Even if its increasing the Shipping Factor of Aisha as soon as she is legally an adult. Because that girl is going to carry a torch. More like a goddamn sun.

Has anyone ever invested in her as much as Joe? No one, really.

I could totally see her carrying a torch for a long, long time.

But that is just my reading of it.

The slaughterhouse analysis was satisfying in the extreme though. And makes me eager for what is to come.

All the more reason to invest more heavily into the Undersiders.

Rachel is going to want to be able to transform into a wolf. And Alec... Alec is going to be saved.

I still think he needs himself a Titan companion. Because the gamer that is Alec having a bonded Titan only makes sense to me.
In my opinion Aisha's accelerated mental aging and the trust Joe puts in her has enhanced her maturity and it's more likely that she realizes that it would be best for her to simply keep it platonic. I get what you mean, although there's like a 5 year long gap it would take for her to get over it even if she had any in the first place. Also thinking of Lord, he very much isn't keen on the romantic side of things so doubt he will ever write it as anything other than platonic. Still not the most comfortable topic so I think it's best left in the 'hypothetically possible but better not discuss' section.
 
Really? You wouldn't call what Ziz does mastering? What Contessa does? What's the difference between mastering someone to do x and 'Path to making them do x'?
Of course what Ziz does is mastering she rewrites brain chemistry some how I'm sure ... Contessa on the other hand no if someone is dead set against doing something she can't make them do it without bringing in someone with a proper master ability in which case there is a master involved just not contessa herself ... that said look at some of the crap con artists pull off in real life and realize thinkers can do it better because they have more information to work with

someone doesn't have to be a master to be scary or bad it's just where I draw the line between the definition of master and not master

after all black mail can make people do things they normally wouldn't and that can be done by normal people with the right leverage no master required
 
Of course what Ziz does is mastering she rewrites brain chemistry some how I'm sure ... Contessa on the other hand no if someone is dead set against doing something she can't make them do it without bringing in someone with a proper master ability in which case there is a master involved just not contessa herself ... that said look at some of the crap con artists pull off in real life and realize thinkers can do it better because they have more information to work with

someone doesn't have to be a master to be scary or bad it's just where I draw the line between the definition of master and not master

after all black mail can make people do things they normally wouldn't and that can be done by normal people with the right leverage no master required
Nah, Contessa's brand of manipulation has no qualms from using all options, from the nice ones like persuasion and bribery, to somewhat grey options like behind-the-scenes masterminding and through other people, to outright nasty paths like coercion, brainwashing, drugging, and mental torture. Technically not Mastering, but in the case of the latter options, your own volition and willingness to cooperate is not a needed factor. If Contessa wants to get you to do something, she will.

You're right that the Simurgh is much more clearcut though. The Simurgh uses a combination of environmental factors (aka the whole Rube Goldberg machine thing she does that places her bombs in the right places to deal the most damage) and internal factors (tweaking of brain chemistry and outright rewiring people's brains through telekinesis) to get her work done. The latter part certainly puts her straight into the Master category.
 
Satisfying chapter though. The conclusion was enjoyable and reading how it affected everyone.

Even if its increasing the Shipping Factor of Aisha as soon as she is legally an adult. Because that girl is going to carry a torch. More like a goddamn sun.

Has anyone ever invested in her as much as Joe? No one, really.

I could totally see her carrying a torch for a long, long time.

But that is just my reading of it.
Young adults getting a crush on their teachers isn't that rare or remarkable; not that Joe will act on it. It's very unlikely Aisha will, either - she might get a bit of Vista syndrome (and that would be a neat omake, them both complaining that their crush is not interested in them due to their age, but then Aisha will ruin it by going "well at least I get to learn more superpowers from him, so...") but probably not to the same extent that Vista does.
I wouldn't want to be someone who managed to hurt Joe, though, since the other members of the Forge will likely either just kill or capture you, but Aisha would be cruel, and her power allowed her to break people before new eldritch colours was introduced to the mix.

A good chapter; like how it skipped over the time-compression training.
 
*supercharges luck*
Oooh, a penny
*picks it up and move it just right for the light to glean up... straight in Ziz's eyes*
Ziz: [ARGH!]
*ziz just missed the crucial event of prodding David from Not going to that shady taco truck, which made him get a bad burrito, he is now facing his worthy opponent, the porcelain throne and all three endbringers deactivate for mission parameters have been fullfilled*
 
And then there's Tybalt, who is just generally Anti-Everything and just about impossible to defend against.
And now I have the mental image of "a" cat, wearing Sparta armor set and a double-bladed staff, casually manhandling Siberian while riding on his sabertooth techno-lion.
It just needs some awesome rock background music and the PHO will go wild!
...
Actually, quick question: did any of the Clones bother to do the obvious and upgrade Saber Fang's teeth with (40k) Power-Chainsaws?
 
And Alec... Alec is going to be saved.

I still think he needs himself a Titan companion. Because the gamer that is Alec having a bonded Titan only makes sense to me.
Alec being followed by a 5m tall WarMecha-Nanny that both nags him and kicks his ass in every FPS ever seems entirely in-character to me.
...and it'll probably be the most wholesome relationship Alec ever had...
 
As I've said, my absolute favorite thing about this story is the characters.
As such, this chapter was delightful.

Looking forward to the Uppercrust meeting.


KSn5Ynoh got the typos, here.
 
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Isn't Joe himself susceptible to Jack's bullshit solely because he has a passenger/shard too? Or is it a special one that just refuses whatever Broadcast tries to do?
Joe's Passenger is not a shard, it's a sort off human soul sitting in his brain, watching TV and pushing reaction buttons.
And if you mean his actual shard, the one he was meant to have, I believe it's either inactive or walled off from Joe by ROB. Putting it simply, a normal shard rides shotgun in a brain car. Joe's shard is zip-tied in the trunk.
 
Ok, when I said that to Apeiron 3 days were like Half a Month to prepare.....I didn't remember they had the little baby equivalent of a goddammed MoonCell Automaton.
And now our intrepid protagonist is a Luck Bender, as if he wasn't bullshit enough already
 
Of course what Ziz does is mastering she rewrites brain chemistry some how I'm sure ... Contessa on the other hand no if someone is dead set against doing something she can't make them do it without bringing in someone with a proper master ability in which case there is a master involved just not contessa herself ... that said look at some of the crap con artists pull off in real life and realize thinkers can do it better because they have more information to work with

someone doesn't have to be a master to be scary or bad it's just where I draw the line between the definition of master and not master

after all black mail can make people do things they normally wouldn't and that can be done by normal people with the right leverage no master required

You say that but we see how she flips Bonesaw during one of Bonesaw's outings she approaches her and says one line which much later she recalls at a certain specific and important moment which tied into what she was thinking about right before and makes the big difference in her attitude making her switch sides. That's something far past what con artists could ever hope to do even with extensive research and prep. It's also high enough to definitely count as a master ability because she can just flip someone's alignment with one line.
 
Of course what Ziz does is mastering she rewrites brain chemistry some how I'm sure ... Contessa on the other hand no if someone is dead set against doing something she can't make them do it without bringing in someone with a proper master ability in which case there is a master involved just not contessa herself ... that said look at some of the crap con artists pull off in real life and realize thinkers can do it better because they have more information to work with

someone doesn't have to be a master to be scary or bad it's just where I draw the line between the definition of master and not master

after all black mail can make people do things they normally wouldn't and that can be done by normal people with the right leverage no master required
TIL that drugging someone into making a bad decisions is Mastering. Hey does this mean that Joe Neurotypicaling Alec was Mastering?
Of course, there had also been opportunities for supporting various hobbies. This was one of Aisha's 'painting outfits', and one of the more reserved ones that Garment had designed. I watched as Aisha made a final stroke with her brush before setting it down in her painting kit. "Last run before we log out, so I figured I'd get back to basics. Didn't feel like breaking out the oil paints right now."
I wonder if she'll end up mixing up some paints using Circle Transmutation and tagging/muraling places with it.
Aisha's gaze was focused towards the river mouth where the square sails of a three masted sailing ship could be seen gliding towards a dedicated berth. Everyone had found their own ways of amusing themselves in the allotted downtime, and the ship was a joint project of the Matrix and Fleet that slowly roped in more people as the time went on.

Okay, Garment signed on as soon as she found out there was a justification for period accurate uniforms. For Tetra it was mostly because she enjoyed either climbing in or being the rigging. Tybalt joined for a combination of the authentic cannons and because ship's cat was an official position, though his eventual promotion to gunnery officer had led to him ceding the position to his Saber Fang. I doubt that position had ever been filled by a saber-toothed tiger, but somehow I felt the naval militaries of old would approve of the image.

Even people who never officially took part in the project occasionally joined in. Given the amount of downtime everyone had cycled through for at least a couple of runs on the ship, even the Titan cores.
I'm surprised that Garment didn't take some inspiration from how viking ships had shield-walls hanging off of them and decide to experiment with whether that could edge into ships having fashion.
Mastery of 'Bigger on the Inside' could compress a car to the point where it would fit into a cupholder. That was a compression factor of roughly a hundred in every dimension. Of course, the mass of the object remained unchanged, so the wooden briefcase that Fleet carried away from the dock weighed over a thousand pounds. Frankly, the insane densities that the compression technology could produce were nearly as useful as the compression itself.

Aisha just smiled at the display before folding down her painting kit, reducing the bulky case to a single slip of extremely dense wood. Lacking Fleet's monstrous strength, she gave more regard to the heft of the object, but I could see a look of pride from her at the successful collapse.

"You sure we can bring this stuff out without trouble?" She asked. "I know the process behind the compression isn't exactly normal."

That was putting it mildly. Practice from the book allowed what could only be described as a legitimate superpower. Not a cape power, there was no relation between the effect and other aspects of parahuman abilities, but still something definitely beyond what should have been possible.

"Not the same object, but it should be possible to fabricate exact duplicates of everything you've made in the simulation." I explained. "This is a different level from most simulations. With spiritron backing for the modeling of the objects, it's more than just a replicated copy. You have levels of continuity of effect." I smiled at her. "You'll be able to take all your paintings with you."
It might be better to use some sort of faux-matter projection system instead; using manifest data seems more honest for something made in a virtual environment then replicating it in materials. That or use Alteration style Reinforcement to Ship Of Theseus a Projection into being made of conventional atoms.
She grinned back as we walked towards the campus. "Not sure where I'll put them. Hanging them up in my room might raise some questions. I wasn't BAD at art class, but nothing like this. Bit too much of a change to be able to sell."
It might be a decent idea to put a few safehouses around the city. One of them possibly under the basement of people like Aisha. Hell Aisha could probably do it herself; she's got Circle Transmutation knowledge and advanced material science knowledge; she might need to get a blueprint off of Matrix if she doesn't have architectural knowledge but she should be able to do that easily enough; Aisha could totally just dig out a bolthole in any random place she chose.
Of course, that wasn't the limit of it. The glove had an additional effect. By expending a great deal of spiritual energy, I could imbue items in order to be more receptive to my spiritual energy or chi. In fact, the two kind of blended together under the system the glove used. What was primarily used as a household convenience was actually one of the more potent enhancement items I had access to. What's more, it wasn't something that needed to be worked in at creation, meaning any item or equipment I had could be imbued.

That is, assuming I could cover the cost, which was significant. The benefits were significant, but spiritual energy was something I couldn't really cheat on, not like with mana, stamina, or mantic energy. It was definitely easier now that I had General Level Potential from Incredibly Craftsmanship, but that was unfortunately just potential. It would take time to build up to the point where expenditures like the Glove of the East required could be handled without a significant recovery period.
So this should be able to enhance Exspheres pretty well I should think. It should also be able to make it easier to provide bodies for disembodies beings like those souls from hell or even for the AIs; Matrix would definitely appreciate a material-enhancement device/method.
Aisha followed my eyes and smiled. "You know, I think everyone was afraid of how this time was going to affect me, or you, or Tetra or something. Never figured it would hit the Zoids the hardest."

It turns out when you take something with a spiritual presence and give it the opportunity for spiritual growth it tends to take it. Something that entered the spiritron system as a dragon that held the nature of a dragon in its own existence had grown into what was for most metaphysical purposes, a dragon.

It also definitely cast Aisha's unicorn in a new light.

"I don't think anyone knew what would happen from tying the Zoids into the system like this." I admitted. "We have limited experience with that Technology, and we can't exactly tear one apart to figure out how it works." I paused. "Okay, I mean we could, and the workshop would restore it in a day, but obviously."

"Yeah, no hurting the unicorn." She said with a smile. "The tiger and dragon can probably look out for themselves."

"Don't undersell Orudios." I said. "And we won't know how this is going to play out until we get them out of the real world."
Would Heretical Adaption make their mental progression count toward physical development? The new gloves spirituality responsiveness enhancement might be able to help with that. Especially if their spirits are accelerated to be able to provide spiritual energy over "large" amounts of "time" for their bodies.

It might be a worthwhile addition to the spiritron space extraction procedure in general come to think of it; the brain responding to the spirit is how it was done in the first place so the brain responding to the spirit more should get the whole process done smoother.
"I honestly have no idea where these powers come from." I admitted. "Much less why they seem to follow certain themes."

"Yeah, I know. Still, at least this one isn't alive." She paused. "Wait, does the gauntlet count? Now that it's a Teigu?"

"Eh?" I made a nebulous gesture. "It has viable components of a danger beast inside it. They aren't currently active, but it's possible to create a Teigu that's still alive, or modify one to be so, even excluding organism types." I said. "Most of the time you won't be looking at anything beyond some autonomous responses and additional abilities. You'd need a terrifying source to actually still have a level of intelligence persist through that."

A source like Tetra, even if I wasn't taking precise care to preserve her something would have been maintained. It was an aspect intrinsic to life fibers and probably the only reason I seriously agreed to add Teigu conversion to her Kamui procedure.

"Okay, so two living gloves, and two inert gloves. So, you're evened out now, right?" She joked.

I shook my head. "Wouldn't put Garment on the same level as the Avid Glove, not even as a joke." I said.

With a thought I extended my awareness to the portion of 'me' that existed beyond the spiritual computer interface. A single eye looked out from where its owner was pinned under someone's arm while futilely trying to bite the offending limb. My Avid Glove, restrained by a duplicate as they prepared for our exit from the simulation.
In light of Teigu and Shingu crafting it might be a decent idea to revise the Avid Glove at some point. Maybe lengthen it so that it can anchor for leverage and be used as a proper limb without having to walk itself around on its fingers? The multiplication feature of it all could be chaotic but it could also help contain that chaos in the same way that having multiple dogs can be easier to handle then having a single dog.

For that matter would it be reasonable to give Dekalt, and possibly Orudios for Aisha, a shrinking/equipping function with Teigu/Shingu procedure? They're meant to have pilots after all.

Might it be worth it to have Trauma undergo a opposite procedure and have it able to imitate the Danger Beast its abilities were sourced from?
I didn't have that here. Or, more specifically, the medium that the world was constructed on was so advanced that I couldn't bend it like I could any other system. This was a spiritron computational environment running inside a system of photonic crystals. It was possible that some kind of spiritron hacking could manipulate the environment directly, but that was an entirely new field of magitech, and one so specialized that it just wasn't worth pursuing, at least not at this point.
The Fingerkings would probably thrive in this sort of environment; it'd be a way to develop faux-dimension hacks.
The 'campus' wasn't exactly a masterstroke of planning. Buildings had been added mostly on the whims of anyone who wanted to try some activity of thought it would be fun to have a facility. Basically, it was what could have happened to my Workshop if my duplicates had indulged every whim of the team on a moment-by-moment basis. Really, it was only my aesthetic powers that kept the whole thing presentable and Fleet's layout of paths that allowed it to be easily navigated.
Ah. A study mansion. That almost beats out Princess Peachs art mansion.
Parahumans were the weak link. It was a terrifying concept, but seriously, who would suspect a master of only being able to affect parahumans, especially if the manipulations were as subtle as they appeared, only being overt at the direst of situations? Most people wouldn't even understand how that was possible. Fortunately, I had a supercarrier plotting out the answer to that exact question. I wasn't certain the passengers were involved, but it was the most likely possibility.

Until we figured out the method behind information controls would need to stay in place. That was the more concerning aspect, and you could see evidence of it from the Nine's movements. Jack avoided cities where he could be threatened or defeated, where the group would likely see heavy losses despite whatever influence he was capable of. Looking at the situations in retrospect there was absolutely no way he could have acquired the information from conventional means, not with that level of consistent avoidance of threats. The power went both ways, and alerting an unprotected parahuman would tip off Jack.

The sad thing was that somebody else could probably have figured this out. Not on the timescale that I had, and not with the level of certainty we held, but with enough eyes on the situation someone would have seen the truth. Once the theory was in place the Nine's behavior would have confirmed it. Measures could have been taken to address the problem, provide information containment and finally mount a serious resistance to the Nine. But that hadn't happened, and it wouldn't happen, because people didn't talk about the Nine.

Survey had needed to work to get all the information she had. There was no national task force working twenty-four/seven on the problem. Not consolidated information center, no repository of information. The amount of data a local branch could request if they had the Nine on their doorstep was paltry, without even full assessments of the Nine's capabilities. The Nine had earned their status as an S-Class threat through the death, destruction, and devastation they wrought, but everyone was content to ignore the problem and leave things to the Capes.

It was almost funny, to see the problem I had to become what my family was always worried about. The exact thing they were afraid that keeping my Sphere moon base would convince people I was. They were concerned I would become a Slaughterhouse fanboy, and now I knew more about their actions than even the most deranged and devoted follower of gruesome exploits.

"Expanded interference in the Nine's approach increases risk of discovery." Survey warned. "I would advise against such measures, though I understand your motivation for this decision."

I nodded. A consequence of walking through every report, every confrontation, every scrap of medical data was knowledge of exactly what was waiting for the people who got caught in their way. Sometimes if someone stumbled onto the nine they were ended quickly. A slice from Jack Slash of Mannequin, a strike from the Siberian, or even a more aggressive action from Crawler. Not pleasant, but quick. Then you had slower fates. Basically, anything from Burnscar, Shatterbird's more creative uses of her power, and whatever Bonesaw could come up with. That slowness sometimes left people alive, though consistently in a state where they wished they weren't.

That was just the consequences of crossing their path. Active hunts or the stunts they pulled during their attacks were in another league entirely. I wasn't going to allow them to try any of that in my city, but I NEEDED to do what I could to mitigate the damage they would cause, even if I had to manipulate every aspect of their route to do so.

"It's an acceptable risk." I stated. "Once we have their location we should be able to influence things sufficiently to reduce casualties to the absolute minimum." And hopefully keep those non-lethal, if at all possible. "If we can keep the route either too busy for them to risk exposing themselves, or completely clear we can eliminate incidental attacks."

Survey nodded. "I would posit that the group may become suspicious of a run of 'good fortune', but analysis has shown consistent encounters with statistically unlikely scenarios, seemingly to a lack of awareness from the members of the Nine."

"We don't know how Jack's power works, or even how much awareness he or the other members have of it." I admitted. "This could pass without notice, or it could come off as a massive red flag."

"And if the Nine become aware of our observation and divert to another target?" Survey asked.

"Then we strike." I said in a cold voice. "The closer they are to the city the better justification we have, but they aren't getting away. I want to minimize the aftermath of this, but with a choice between a global panic and Jack getting away, there's no choice. He dies, one way or another."
I feel like it might be a decent idea to test Jacobs awareness though other Parahumans by making someone aware of "attempts to keep them away" to better draw them in and through routes of Joes chosing.
Burning Bright (Binbougami Ga!) 300:
The powers of Fortune Energy are great within you; so great that it defies logic. Your energies are so bountiful that your techniques/effects using them are greatly increased, and your overall luck with them has likewise increased. Why, it's likely that given time to train you can unlock different abilities and methods to use the amount of Fortune Energy you possess. Furthermore, you gain the ability to toggle on or off a 'passive' absorbing ability to slowly drain the fortune energy of others and pull them into yourself. Just be wary about staying around people too long with this power. Cannot take with 'A Song For The Hopeless'.
-The maximum Fortune Energy/Misfortune Energy capacity one may possess will only grow slowly with age, and cannot be increased with training. 'A Song For The Hopeless' or 'Burning Bright' will increase the rate your maximum capacity grows, but it will always be at a fixed rate due to age.
-'Burning Bright' likewise is limited in that while you can temporarily supercharge yourself, your maximum Fortune Energy reservoir can only increase with age and not training. In addition, while you can try to supercharge yourself enough to become a god, you will only become a low-level one in the beginning. It will take hundreds of years for your reservoir to grow truly impressive
-'Burning Bright' grants an AoE Fortune Energy-draining field that is a 10-15 feet radius around you, and cannot be improved. However, the more people around you the more you will drain by volume. A temporary timespan of 3-12 hours will not harm the person, but the more time you spend around others with the field on, the more detrimental it will be to them. Spending 8-10 years around a person constantly with the field on will likely result in their death, if they are mortal. The more powerful the entity, the less likely this will occur.
Well that should be interesting; they've already got some fortune manipulation but even with as many overlapping fields of study as the Forge has specialization in not many of them branch out into what this Perk specializes in. Might be a bit problematic to find people worth parasitizing for luck though.
*supercharges luck*
Oooh, a penny
*picks it up and move it just right for the light to glean up... straight in Ziz's eyes*
Ziz: [ARGH!]
*ziz just missed the crucial event of prodding David from Not going to that shady taco truck, which made him get a bad burrito, he is now facing his worthy opponent, the porcelain throne and all three endbringers deactivate for mission parameters have been fullfilled*
Oh right I forgot that this is Worm. Never mind just Khepri that range limitation to a few institution heads with some pinhole portals and drain them dry.
Alec... Alec is going to be saved.

I still think he needs himself a Titan companion. Because the gamer that is Alec having a bonded Titan only makes sense to me.
Alec being followed by a 5m tall WarMecha-Nanny that both nags him and kicks his ass in every FPS ever seems entirely in-character to me.
...and it'll probably be the most wholesome relationship Alec ever had...
...Yeah a pair of dorks struggling to figure out this whole "person" thing together would probably work nicely.
 
Who would be? It was such a copout given how most of Worm's characters are parahuman and you have this parahuman villain whose power is literally plot armor against parahumans.
Like everything else about Worm its meant to to provide a "realistic" explanation for a superhero setting. In this case a a "realistic" answer to the age old question of, "Why does no one ever shoot the Joker?" The answer Wildbow came up with was that the Joker has superpowers which give him plot armor to continue being a serial killer so he can never be stopped.
 
Like everything else about Worm its meant to to provide a "realistic" explanation for a superhero setting. In this case a a "realistic" answer to the age old question of, "Why does no one ever shoot the Joker?" The answer Wildbow came up with was that the Joker has superpowers which give him plot armor to continue being a serial killer so he can never be stopped.
Well, stopped by people with powers because Jack only affects Parahumans. For normal people, Wildbow had to invent a new reason, Ms. Plot- I mean Contessa's Paths, to help keep the Slaughterhouse Nine alive and murdering. Because, let's face it, someone, somewhere, would've put a bullet in Jack's head from two and a half Kilometers away a long time ago if it wasn't for her.
 
Well, stopped by people with powers because Jack only affects Parahumans. For normal people, Wildbow had to invent a new reason, Ms. Plot- I mean Contessa's Paths, to help keep the Slaughterhouse Nine alive and murdering. Because, let's face it, someone, somewhere, would've put a bullet in Jack's head from two and a half Kilometers away a long time ago if it wasn't for her.
I do think this is the moment where people for once give Jack too little credit. Shard or not, you cant deny that Jack is veteran cape with dozens, hundreds of battles behind him. He is bound to pick up some skills
 
No, you're way too optimistic. I say between 20-30 chapters until the Nine.
Why? Well, there's meeting with Uppercrust. Than there's obligatory few build-up chapters. Then there's Fleet preparation for meeting with Faultline and her crew and then the actual meeting. After this there's Alec call and maybe meeting with Joe therapist. After this a few build-up chapters. Then we can finally have Garment charity event. It will last at least 3-4 chapters with different point of view.
After this a few more build-up chapters and finally The Nine are detected by Survey. Joe start prep-time chapter and then engage them.
So yeah, 20-30 chapters until then.
It will be glorious but we have to wait a bit
You're right on how long it'll probably take but I'm a bit skeptical if it'll be glorious or not. This story handles characters far better than it does events.
 
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