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Noburi described her as an introvert right? Don't need to be a ninja to see how fucky her weird upbeat thing going on was
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
I bawled like a baby. Thank you, @Velorien and @Evenstar. We were able to give our damnedest to help Mari. We were able to prove that we know her and communicate our worries and concerns about her. For personal reasons that I'm not quite comfortable sharing on the internet (sorry), this means more to me than the entirety of the human lexicon can ever entirely express. So I'll simply say this and move on: Thank you.
A mask? Or is she a traitor, plotting against the Leaf? I do not trust her.
A Mari-lite? Trauma and mask to be a shield from vulnerability? Or is it that, flavored on top of being a spy? I still don't trust her.
So Hazou reminds her of her abuser. I don't think that she'll be joining the clan. Thank the ancestral spirits, because I don't trust her.
Of course it's not strong enough. Hazou was trained by a social-spec jonin that wears faces like he wears clothes. Hazou sees into Mari's soul, even when she doesn't want him to. Of course Hazou's going to be able to see through a piss-poor attempt at playing pretend --from a what, chunin/genin --to hide nerves and trauma. Mari does that far better.
Is this a dual personality or miming a dead protector to feel protected in an unsafe environment? I get the feeling that she's doing her best to passively get through this interview so she can leave and do her best to never see Hazou again.
And there's always the chance that she's trying to avoid attention because attention is the enemy of spies. I don't trust her.
Or it could simply be puberty. Occam's razor and whatnot. He's noticing girls and having weird body hair. It's not inconceivable to think that he's having trouble with his anger --especially with his personal history. But yeah, let's have him realize his anger issues via journaling. That's kinda what it's for, right? To identify and acknowledge sudden emotional changes that may be Out.
Hazou might panic... for a bit, until Kagome inspects him, realizes it's not Out-influenced, and then has an awkward conversation about the Kunai and the Holster. Hazou will, of course, no doubt try to run away. But Kagome will trap him and force Hazou to listen. Because really, "better I tell him than for the boy to discover it on his own." And besides, Kagome will pass the knowledge along far kinder than the way he, himself, was taught. Because Kagome cares.
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Anyway, I vote Noda. We can help her, she's the easiest to bind/sway to our cause, she seems friendly enough, she's arguably the most useful, and --in my opinion --simply more interesting than anyone else. Ayo is really just... very sketchy and doesn't even seem to want to be involved with us. Haru is filled with a justified/righteous anger at class discrimination but lacks the soft/hard power to bring about the requisite change and is consumed by an overwhelming rage to do anything more meaningful than punch people. So... yeah, Noda.
Noda: A friendly and vulnerable dunk, who's both powerful and fixable
Ayo: A less competent Mari with questionable loyalties and a severe personal trauma that resurfaces around Hazou
Haru: An impotently angry boy with strong fists.
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Edit: I'm probably being too harsh on Haru. He's a passionate teenager facing discrimination and also lacks the power or charisma to change that discrimination. It's only natural that would lead into a downwards spiral that we (probably) find him in the middle of. I just don't particularly like Haru because --from what we've seen of him --he voices justified complaints, but doesn't really do anything about it the way that Hazou is trying to. I mean, Haru's not really in a position to make any meaningful change, but we don't really see him even trying. And that inaction, to me, kinda undermines his arguments.
And yeah "but the clans would remove him and keep on carrying on, the best thing he can do for his cause is to live another day." I get it. I agree. But still. The inaction rubs me the wrong way, especially when Hazou was like "oh, discrimination. Let's fix that." And I'm sure that the inaction burns Haru, too.
...Actually, I wonder if/when Haru'll snap. I mean, he's a teenager with too much passion, too little knowledge, and far too little power to fix that which he sees as broken. It'd probably happen eventually.
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Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
I don't think hes been going around telling people specifics, but "Kagome has strange explosive variants" isn't really a mystery is it? This bit always confused me.
Kagome *points* (not throws) explosives at every other Bob, Jane, and Chaunzaggorathorax that shimmies his way.
In much the same way that Shikamaru remarked to Keiko that the Daimyo's wife's cat knows about lupchanzen, I'm waiting for a "Dearest cousin-in-law, you know that you do this thing quite a lot, and as a consequence its obvious to every ninja with half of a brain that you have some sort of explosives seal variant that blows things that you're pointing at up?"
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
Damn, really? Well, I suppose that Hazou wasn't prepared for a mummery the way that he was when he spoke with Mari...
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- Kiev, Ukraine
Between hive mind influence, personal history, Out manifestations, active sealcrafting, and ninja deathworld he's living in, Occam's razor seems somewhat useless. Not to mention that puberty does not equal anger issues.
I don't really care about medium used, I care that he wouldn't spiral out of control. The case made worse by three out of four parental figures in his life having anger problems.
Wow. It's like we're reading about different characters. The man who held his ground against Zabuza and Orochimaru panicking about puberty. Just wow.
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- The state of Paranoia
Honestly, I like getting the OOC information. Without this, if we asked her to join the clan we'd have absolutely no idea why she refused and we never saw her again. It would forever be a mystery.
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
Hello, I would like to propose that in this situation where Hazou plausibly has a few hours of free time in the next few days and is banned from Sealing, this is a good chance to invent Skysliders. I have a protoplansegment ready to be wordcount-optimized and shoved into a plan.
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
It was the buildup to a joke about Hazou getting The Talk from Kagome. No, Hazou wouldn't panic about puberty. Obviously.
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- America
My thoughts on the adoptees:
I'd prefer Kaiyo, Aya, then Haru in that order.
Haru's anti-clan mentality is so extreme that it is a liability if he were to join. A significant amount of effort would be needed to blunt that aspect or else we risk him resenting the Goketsu if we make a thoughtless remark. It'd be easy for him to misunderstand something and blow up or hold resentment. On top of this, he's a taijutsu expert with no other notable traits or benefits. He's very good at taijutsu, but it doesn't scale as well as ninjutsu, sealing, or technique hacking. The saying about warriors scaling linearly and wizards scaling quadratically applies here.
Aya's mind is interesting. I love her paranoia and just every but of how her mind works. Like Haru, Aya's personality would take work to fix, but in Aya's case I think it would be worth it. Aya's mentality is something that we would be hard-pressed to find anywhere else, and a paranoid, excessively prepared ninja is more dangerous than a taijutsu monster in my eyes -- especially since our speciality is creating seals that multiply combat power through clever application. I think Aya would be able to utilize seals in innovative ways that Haru would never come up with. I also find Aya's personality fascinating and want her around as a character.
Technique-hacking takes the cake though. Our ultimate goal is to achieve immortality and ressurection jutsu, and a technique-hacker gets us much closer to that goal than either of the other adoptees. It's also the missing piece we need for several techniques, like Edo-Tensei, Flying Thunder God, and even Konan's paper technique. All of those combine seals and ninjutsu to achieve their effects.
Of course, I really like Kaiyo's personality as well. Drowning sorrows in alcohol is pretty relatable.
I'd prefer Kaiyo, Aya, then Haru in that order.
Haru's anti-clan mentality is so extreme that it is a liability if he were to join. A significant amount of effort would be needed to blunt that aspect or else we risk him resenting the Goketsu if we make a thoughtless remark. It'd be easy for him to misunderstand something and blow up or hold resentment. On top of this, he's a taijutsu expert with no other notable traits or benefits. He's very good at taijutsu, but it doesn't scale as well as ninjutsu, sealing, or technique hacking. The saying about warriors scaling linearly and wizards scaling quadratically applies here.
Aya's mind is interesting. I love her paranoia and just every but of how her mind works. Like Haru, Aya's personality would take work to fix, but in Aya's case I think it would be worth it. Aya's mentality is something that we would be hard-pressed to find anywhere else, and a paranoid, excessively prepared ninja is more dangerous than a taijutsu monster in my eyes -- especially since our speciality is creating seals that multiply combat power through clever application. I think Aya would be able to utilize seals in innovative ways that Haru would never come up with. I also find Aya's personality fascinating and want her around as a character.
Technique-hacking takes the cake though. Our ultimate goal is to achieve immortality and ressurection jutsu, and a technique-hacker gets us much closer to that goal than either of the other adoptees. It's also the missing piece we need for several techniques, like Edo-Tensei, Flying Thunder God, and even Konan's paper technique. All of those combine seals and ninjutsu to achieve their effects.
Of course, I really like Kaiyo's personality as well. Drowning sorrows in alcohol is pretty relatable.
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
On that note, we should probably see about getting a license to do sealing again from our clan; in about five days seems like a good plan, considering that'll be the two-week anniversary of Hugs For Snakes.
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Mostly because waiting three months to do sealing again sounds like a terrible idea when we're already 50% better at doing sealing than before.
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
On that note, we should ask if the clan has any tests they'd like us to undergo (like describing our experiences or whatnot) beyond merely waiting to see if we explode or not. There was approximately 0 time between us going into quarantine and the Collapse, and we've all been busy ever since, so it's quite plausible they've intended to run some tests but never had the time. With the crisis winding down, well, now's the time.
We can easily phrase it in a way that's not 'Out-possessed Hazou seeks to game the confinement system' by simply asking if they want to run tests, rather than asking them what we'd need to prove. I'd like to come out of confinement after satisfying all of their concerns as much as reasonably possible, so we have nothing to lose by being up-front and honest about our intent to cooperate with whatever they'd like us to do to help prove we're still Hazou.
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- USA
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- He/Him
Typo. It was supposed to say "Matron", not "Mom". Fixed.
Yes, but I don't.
Who ever said that he was okay with it?
Actually, Hazō explicitly stated that Haru's got leadership skills, is willing to take orders when that makes sense, and is currently taking initiative with the KEI. You're pretty thin on people with both leadership and initiative.
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- Omniverse #1345
The fact it's happening on the clan compound and he isn't being physically restrained.
The answer is obvious.
She's been bodyjacked by a lupchanzen.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
If we get the clan slots, I'm happy to pursue all three. Better the devils we know, if not, though.
[X] Action Plan: Autopilot
Skyslider:
Skyslider:
- Paper fall slowly. You saw skylanterns float using hot air, because skylanterns are made of papers that float more easily.
- Bird fly. Maybe paper and birds use the same principles?
- Experiment with paper and different shapes and throw them.
- Name your invention skyslider.
- Continue genjutsu training. This time, without defeating the purpose.
- Have someone else in the clan roll dice and dictate the scenarios.
- Add reflection on recent anger in addition to the usual.
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- Kiev, Ukraine
So, Aya is fine: she's just a combination of Keiko, Kagome, and Mari
@Kiba please note that this proposal got significant support. Please add something along the lines:
Reflect on recent outbursts of anger and commit to avoid them in the future
Dissonance
Luna's Luna
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- Ginnungagap.
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- S/H/T
Having been similar to Aya , the thought of having her around causes more wariness than she feels about Hazō. She is metaphorically a sphere of blades, trying to get close has a high likelihood of someone in the clan dying.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
And unlike you or Kagome, not a useful one.
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- Potato land
Allright, so that's the caveat with Aya. Not so bad, really, I was half-expecting a more dangerous and unstable personality disorder.
Honestly, I like her. She's similar to both Mari and Kagome and would fit right into our dysfunctional little family. Of course, gaining her trust would take a lot of time, so she's not a realistic candidate for this round of adoptions. Still, much like Kagome and Mari, she's the kind of person who trusts deeply and is absolutely loyal, once we get there. The real question would be: How? Hazou is not equipped to interact with her effectively.
Honestly, I like her. She's similar to both Mari and Kagome and would fit right into our dysfunctional little family. Of course, gaining her trust would take a lot of time, so she's not a realistic candidate for this round of adoptions. Still, much like Kagome and Mari, she's the kind of person who trusts deeply and is absolutely loyal, once we get there. The real question would be: How? Hazou is not equipped to interact with her effectively.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
Throw Akane/Mari at her.