Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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"Does that snake over there look unusually smug, to you?"
"That's a strange thing to ask, dude. Look, we should get back to patrol. Everyone's nervous since Lord Hyuga vanished, the higher ups want us looking busy."
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Yeah, pretty much this plus we only know about Hiashi from J-man. If we absolutely HAD to choose between preemptive assassination with our current knowledge and Hiashi as Hokage, I'd pick the first, but I think we have enough breathing room to not do anything that drastic quite yet.
Emstar
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@eaglejarl typo maybe? "that" ~> "than" or "was" ~> "wasn't" ?
Yeah, besides details (whatever I have right now is frighteningly insecure as far as "Ask for someone to be Disappeared" goes) this certainly hinges on a particular guesstimate of Orochimaru's character that certainly might not be the case. Realistically I don't expect anyone else here to go for it.
Raxner
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Probably should be "begin," not "being."
I was confused. I thought she was asking for details about Games Night, and suddenly Hazo is talking about more general alliance stuff.
So what, he's walking and she's swimming?
Hey, good idea. Imma try this!
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Psh, no. They're obviously being carried in the strong arms of a dashing ninja. Or maybe standing on his feet as they dance in the moonlight.
Regarding @MMKII's plan, I think trying to get Hiashi assassinated actually is our best option if (and only if) both J-Man and Tsunade are dead.
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Also, regardless of whether we'll ultimately be able to stay in Leaf or not, I do think @Immortal Lurker's idea of starting work on an Uplift Manifesto is EXCELLENT. It might bite our ass a bit in short-term politics, but it'll make us look a hell of a lot more sincere about our ideals and will go along away towards spreading Uplift without our active involvement. Lastly, it will help us build a base of support from powerful civvies (read: Merchant Council) and clanless ninja.
Hazou kind of outlined the three main lines of Uplift argument. Moral, Economic, and Military. We should elaborate on these, and put in a lot of effort to make sure we have a strong rhetorical case and convincing analysis. It's possible we could sell Mari on the idea that helping us formulate our arguments, especially along the rhetorical dimension, would be one of the best ways to put some unalloyed "good" on her moral ledger. Keiko and the Nara can help with the actual analysis. The memetic defenses are indeed weak, so let us strike while that still holds true.
Hazou kind of outlined the three main lines of Uplift argument. Moral, Economic, and Military. We should elaborate on these, and put in a lot of effort to make sure we have a strong rhetorical case and convincing analysis. It's possible we could sell Mari on the idea that helping us formulate our arguments, especially along the rhetorical dimension, would be one of the best ways to put some unalloyed "good" on her moral ledger. Keiko and the Nara can help with the actual analysis. The memetic defenses are indeed weak, so let us strike while that still holds true.
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Lmfao what the hell is with this bullshit Hazo?
A) Not really up to you to decide how civilian born ninja refer to themselves
B) You literally just said you have a problem respecting other people's agency and then you do this
C) It just makes you look bad. If you want to ingratiate yourself with some people who have a lower social status then you, this kind of tactic probably isn't going to work.
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Great news everyone!
I just realized that due to this we can tell that the clanless people we were trying to get to know didn't share the "he's a naive idiot" reaction. They may have thought us pretentious/stupid, but not naive!
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@eaglejarl , @Velorien , @OliWhail , Do we know what ninja/clan heads are part of the Strike force? Are Tsunade and Shikaku also going to Nagi?
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CR 16 sounds good. I thought we already voted in the empathy drip though? Is this in addition to that?
Emstar
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Until I see the Empathy drip, it doesnt exist as far as I'm concerned.
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Go for it. As recent past demonstrated, ballsy and ruthless plans are the way to victory!
[X] Action plan: One Spelling Will Bring It Down
Don't worry, I will
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Yes to both, though I would personally prefer a bit more in Empathy.
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Are we sure that sending a secret message to Orochimaru while we are in political hot waters is a good idea? We don't really know what the general plan for Oro is, the Clan council is possible informed that he is in Leaf, and trying to talk to him via summoning could be seen as treasonous, if somehow someone figures out that we did that.
Maybe just talk to the current guy who is in charge?
But I would like to talk to Oro about the Capybara summoning scroll, he needs to proof that he is best uncle after all.
Maybe just talk to the current guy who is in charge?
But I would like to talk to Oro about the Capybara summoning scroll, he needs to proof that he is best uncle after all.
Emstar
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@faflec
Would you be open to reformatting the Oro section? OOC this is just to get a line of communication with Oro, but IC we can phrase it as trying to keep lines of communication open with folks who we suspect might be at the battle and are Jiraiya's confidants.
E: And I don't personally care but it seems to be a quick fix to that that ensures we don't miss out on an opportunity if enough folks areparanoid concerned about it
Would you be open to reformatting the Oro section? OOC this is just to get a line of communication with Oro, but IC we can phrase it as trying to keep lines of communication open with folks who we suspect might be at the battle and are Jiraiya's confidants.
E: And I don't personally care but it seems to be a quick fix to that that ensures we don't miss out on an opportunity if enough folks are
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[X] Action Plan: Manor Snakes
Also, I'm pretty sure Nakano & co are wrong about mudfoots not allowed to get mednin Training and we know exactly how to verify this: There is a certain someone, who excells as mednin and almost certainly a clanless ninja. He prefers to go by the name of Yakushi Kabuto.
@faflec can you add asking him about medics to this section:
Investigate Leaf policy on teaching Sealing, MedNin, and Technique Hacking.
Also, I'm pretty sure Nakano & co are wrong about mudfoots not allowed to get mednin Training and we know exactly how to verify this: There is a certain someone, who excells as mednin and almost certainly a clanless ninja. He prefers to go by the name of Yakushi Kabuto.
@faflec can you add asking him about medics to this section:
Investigate Leaf policy on teaching Sealing, MedNin, and Technique Hacking.
- Consult the library, a tower clerk, Ebisu...
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Ahh...I wouldn't mind, but would prefer a better...explanation? reasoning? for establishing communication. We already have Jiraiya for communication and the safer bet for getting more people would have been Tsunade, not Orochimaru.
Emstar
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FMPOV "They might both be dead?" is beyond sufficient to justify reaching out to more people, but your mileage may vary there. Depends on the degree we're roleplaying Properly Paranoid Ninja , maybe?
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Not sure where this is meant to be added, sorry.
Done.
Completely changed that part to include Tsunade.
Emstar
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I'm concerned that this could result in us contacting Tsunade and leaving it at that ... but I'll try to get back to you later tonight with something more appropriate and less "treason?"-adjacent.
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[X] Continue Prior Plan
Wiadi
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Don't think we actually know that, I'm pretty sure that text is from back when Compels in exchange for FP were still a thing.