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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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The way it's rubbing its hands just looks somewhat scheming and evil.
Evil!Pandaa be scary, yo.
Emstar
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Pretty much.
I will note that he could have been a bit more considerate of how she may feel about it being announced to the world at large. Besides that, as far as I could tell the actual Shikamaru <=> Keiko was the most preferred outcome for both of them, and that they were each on the same page there.
Unfortunately, being consistently on the same page takes a lot of work. If she changed her mind about the betrothal, stopping Pangolin Domination, the general geopolitical situation or whatever else, I would expect her to inform the relevant people about it at least.
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I half-jokingly suggested this to the thread earlier but:
What do we think about having the kids do paperwork when they need(read: want to ask for or otherwise request) stuff from each other?
It would help Hazou's agency problems1, give Keiko an emotion-neutral framework to make requests and to deny them2 absolutely terrify Jiraiya3, and provide us with an endless source of material with which to fuck with Noburi4 in a humorous, bros-being-dicks sort of way.
1: And by that I mean it pays IC lip service to fixing this issue, perhaps it will get him to be more considerate and thoughtful
2: Aside:It would also help her if she's having trouble figuring out why she doesn't like a particular thing and to separate squishy emotional reasons from hard factual ones. Correct me if I'm wrong, but she is very bad at doing this.
3: While simultaneously convincing him over time that Hazou has at least some skill/practice navigating the bureaucracy.
4: "Hey bud, how's that grant proposal coming along?"
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This will definitely make Gouketsu the most terrifying clan in the world. I say we do this
Emstar
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The Nara already do something like this.
Speaking of which, when we get back we should probably insert ourselves a bit deeper into the Nara's Hours Economy. Useful resources and all.
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Not telling her about it beforehand was absolutely dickish. The actual outcome is definitely one of the best, but the signalling is awful, and Keiko is absolutely correct in her observation that it implies Shikamaru barely thinks of her as a person with feelings. Even if they were secretly madly in love, this kind of betrothal announcement is going to immediately affect Keiko's life in the short-term, and giving her a bit of advance warning would just be a basic gesture of respect.
Which is distinctly different from what Hazou did, by the by. Hazou absolutely did consider Keiko's feelings, and simply decided that his judgement was superior in this particular matter. Shikamaru's mistake is all the more apparent because it was essentially costless (and probably downright beneficial!) to discuss this announcement with Keiko ahead of time. But he failed to perceive the problem at all. I wonder if he asked Ino for advice.
Emstar
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Once again, you manage to say what I wanted to say in a much more eloquent way. Where can I learn this superpower?
Big lol. I don't think Ino is that hellbent on drama creation.
Of course, we could spend time with her during the next update to maybe get IC knowledge of whats going on in the Shikamaru/Keiko department. She can't help but gossip about it if we spend time with her. If only one of the plans has us spending time socializing with Ino -- the person who is likely in the top three of important characters in our age group we could possibly befriend-- in a manner that is to her liking while accomplishing a few other things that we would like to do while in Mist....
(Note to self: edit plan so that it also helps out with Merchant Spy Network plot.)
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That's rather interesting question! ISC relations are very friendly and they generaly prefer to double-check everything they do with each other. Shikamaru knows that Ino is superior on the topic of people's feelings and psychology. So it would be natural for him to consult her and go with her advice.
Then, if he did, it implies that Yamanaka either just downright sabotaged his relations, or was wrong in her analysis (probably first time in years).
Could Ino be a backstabbing b*tch?
Emstar
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She could just have her own preferred shipping chart.Could Ino be a backstabbing b*tch?
I'm not sure that Ino is actually the one to go to for relationship advice. Like, what tangible experience does she have there? Jiraiya's novels? She doesn't seem like she's quite able to divorce her preconceived notions and expectations from reality. See: her deciding that Hazou was a jerkface solely because of the Akane </=> Hazou situation, and taking the initiative to give him the cold shoulder and a dressing down because Akane wasn't going to do it and that's what she thought he deserved. Ignoring entirely the fact that this was not something she should be meddling in at all, and that if two of your friends who are dating get in a fight and are mildly okay with being friends, you should probably just become Switzerland instead of joining either side (then again perhaps those are my preconceptions).
On second thought, this could have actually been the sequence of events that led to this:
INO: Oh, Shika, you've got to do it in front of a thousand people! It's so romantic!
SHIKAMARU: You're sure about it? Hmm. That would work well with the political aspect...
INO: Yes! It will be like in Romance of the Seven Samurai when the hero samurai proposed to the princess in front of the whole kingdom! You're staking all your pride on the line in the name of love. It's perfect!
SHIKAMARU: Alright then. *goes back to napping*
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Well, she generally has more experience than anyone Shikamaru can turn to for advice just being freaking cheating mind-traveller.
Also, she can be poor expert, but percieve herself as good one. She's Keiko opposite in terms of selfesteem IMHO. Which makes your piece of dialogue even more probable
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Wouldn't it be amazing if it turns out that Chouji is better at socials and planning than either Ino or Shikamaru, but he is just too laid back and considerate to correct their assumptions so he keeps letting them take center stage?
Emstar
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Shopping trip with added bit to use small talk to collect misc. info about merchants.
Hopefully tinkered with the wording to make the whole thing flow better.
Hopefully tinkered with the wording to make the whole thing flow better.
[vulpine grin] Action Plan: Overwrite Hazou's Brain with Tattletale for as Long as it Takes to Make Ami Have a Psychological Breakdown
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Dropping the other shoe on Ami? Sounds copacetic to me
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We should create a script for the meeting, apply a Vigenère cipher to it, practice the ciphertext until we can say it, and then only speak to Ami using lines from the ciphertext replicated with the Iron Nerve. If she's as good as she claims, she'll be able to figure out that the key is 'YOUTHSUIT' and decrypt our words.
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And once the update drops, it turns out he gets a violent seizure, after which he collapses into himself, opening a portal into the Out.
Quest ends, eaglejarl takes up the offer of watching Sunday MMA fights.
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Most definitely. Didn't you notice all my enthusiastic comments about metahorror?