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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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[X] Claim the Title of Heir: [Cost: ???] Gain title: Heir of Thungni, ??? You claim a position that has remained in doubt since Durin died. By Thungni's word, the hammer you would now wield confirms that you are His Heir. Elevating your authority to that of the Ancestor's eldest children, living or dead. You would not, could not be a tyrant of course, but still.
 
Looks like refuse has pulled ahead

Adhoc vote count started by LordEdric on Sep 5, 2024 at 9:14 AM, finished with 1492 posts and 415 votes.
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BurnNote said:
It was my first reaction, then I kinda got swayed to Claiming the title, but then I moved back to this. Snorri's definition of what it means to be heir is too restrictive, and he's too divisive and too lacking evidence to claim that title and not start a shitstorm.
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Whatever Snorri chooses he's going to have to Resist, Overcome, Endure. I believe one of the things he's going to have to overcome should we vote to be the heir is his own assumptions of what that means and what is best, as well as everyone else's assumptions.
 
Perhaps Snorri's utility focused mind would work as Guild head due to it supporting Traditionalist thought when it works while still pushing for growth and change?
 
[X] Claim the Title of Heir: [Cost: ???] Gain title: Heir of Thungni, ??? You claim a position that has remained in doubt since Durin died. By Thungni's word, the hammer you would now wield confirms that you are His Heir. Elevating your authority to that of the Ancestor's eldest children, living or dead. You would not, could not be a tyrant of course, but still.
 
TigerJack369 said:
Perhaps Snorri's utility focused mind would work as Guild head due to it supporting Traditionalist thought when it works while still pushing for growth and change?
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The big political issue right now is Khazagar. And Snorri isn't particularly conservative or traditionalist.
IronFist said:
Followed by return of the Snorrists.
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That faction name will never stop being funny to me.
Its like a bunch of single issue nap time voters.
 
soulcake said:
I'm not trying to balance that out with drawbacks, the stuff I said is the obvious consequence of how the quest has made Snorri, a radical element that is the source of serious debate and drama within the Guild, and the subsequent interactions between someone like him taking the position above.
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Don't beat yourself up about it. It was obvious for me to point it out earlier in the thread.
FunkyEntropy said:
I think the arch-conservatives (including Vragni. Especially Vragni) would reject us as the Heir no matter what, and would in fact use that claim to double down even further of their dislike of Snorri since to them it would be the height of arrogance for Snorri to declare himself as such.
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It's just, there's been a TON of discussion and
1) People don't always read every comment.
2) Some people don't even read the discussion at all and only pay attention to author alerts.
3) And even if they did read it, they won't give it the same weight as the QM no matter how obvious the point is.
 
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[X] Claim the Title of Heir: [Cost: ???] Gain title: Heir of Thungni, ??? You claim a position that has remained in doubt since Durin died. By Thungni's word, the hammer you would now wield confirms that you are His Heir. Elevating your authority to that of the Ancestor's eldest children, living or dead. You would not, could not be a tyrant of course, but still.


Got to break my rule and posting with the phone and stopped lurking for this.
There would be Better runelord for this but we are the only option and we are Better than notthing.
Following thungi example Is easy, he sat on his ass not spending actions.
We will probably have to work only at the start.
As long as we keep runiversity open we do not really need to be more radical anyway.
The envelope was in my opinion succesfully pushed with that and Is enough.

Being the heir probably makes It easier for soul to rope us in big event far from north like black mountains ogre migrations and Elf stuff, so good.

I do not care if this dashes snorri and karstak hopes and dreams and psyche.
The karaz ankor would benefit and It his in character for him to sacrifice for it.

Soul you underestimated your writing again.
It Is good people are emotionaly invested in It and answered emotionaly on It.
The big figth of the votes was inevitable.
It was a bit delicious for me to see the voters act very much like the guild we are about to rock.

Take care guys till next month.
 
shepsquared said:
Whatever Snorri chooses he's going to have to Resist, Overcome, Endure. I believe one of the things he's going to have to overcome should we vote to be the heir is his own assumptions of what that means and what is best, as well as everyone else's assumptions.
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See, that's true, but I kind of don't like what that would say if decided to be heir. Because he has an heir he held/taught to those standards. Except now that he would have to do the same, he rethinks that because it's too restrictive? That sucks, that really sucks.
And like, Karstah has had to struggle with Snorri's hangups, and that also sucks, but she made the choice that she can accept his definition.
Honestly, it sucks either way for her, because refusing the title is also kind of refusing her choice, while taking the title and changing the definition... also refuses her choice. The only way that doesn't is to take it up the same way she did, but that's a shit choice for other reasons.
 
[X] Claim the Title of Heir: [Cost: ???] Gain title: Heir of Thungni, ??? You claim a position that has remained in doubt since Durin died. By Thungni's word, the hammer you would now wield confirms that you are His Heir. Elevating your authority to that of the Ancestor's eldest children, living or dead. You would not, could not be a tyrant of course, but still.
 
Evillevi said:
Thanks to Yorri we can infer that there's only 1 trial with the Hammer and potential Heirship as a reward. As it so happens there's literally on rocks now

The other trials may have fantastic rewrads but the heirship potential is not one of them
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No the joke I was going for was that Thungni had planned all this, and other candidates had been sent to a different trial which would have the evidence Snorri was the heir.
 
daddycool101 said:
What do the runes on a runefang do? (I know runefangs aren't a thing right now but I'm curious).
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You know how a lightsaber from Star Wars can cut basically everything with no problems? Except for a very small amount of materials which it can still cut but just not like butter? That's the runefangs. They cut through everything and the things they can't cut through, you actually can cut them, it just takes a bit more force.

The only things a runefang has trouble cutting through are like, godish beings. Like a super cracked vampire or a literal god in physical form, or ya know, plot armor.
 
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Good arguments both ways, and I trust soul to do something interesting with it either way, so I'm removing my refuse vote

daddycool101 said:
What do the runes on a runefang do? (I know runefangs aren't a thing right now but I'm curious).
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Each one had a slightly different set of runes but they all cut like crazy
 
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BurnNote said:
See, that's true, but I kind of don't like what that would say if decided to be heir. Because he has an heir he held/taught to those standards. Except now that he would have to do the same, he rethinks that because it's too restrictive? That sucks, that really sucks.
And like, Karstah has had to struggle with Snorri's hangups, and that also sucks, but she made the choice that she can accept his definition.
Honestly, it sucks either way for her, because refusing the title is also kind of refusing her choice, while taking the title and changing the definition... also refuses her choice. The only way that doesn't is to take it up the same way she did, but that's a shit choice for other reasons.
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When else is Snorri going to rethink his standards for being an heir? He's an elder of his clan and Yorri doesn't want an heir. Being put in the situation of figuring out an elder even more inscrutable than him, one that the thread has already gone over how he set up the Runesmith's Guild to falter, is the only time Snorri would ever reconsider this unless Karstah has a breakdown.

She may trust Snorri whole heartedly, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't remind her how he needed his mother to tell him to stop being an idiot and adopt him. Karstah should know that Snorri isn't perfect and that once he's gone she'll be expected to make her own decisions while living up to his.
 
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