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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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[X] March [1 Snorri AP] Might as well see what that hammer can do. What better way to test it than against the ones trying to corrupt the world? Plus, seeing that hammer will embolden the Dawi fighting on the front.

[X] The Road to Anoqeyån Pt. 2: [3 Snorri AP] Let's finish this up, we've been putting this off for too long and I'm sure it will help in figuring out how to improve our eye.

[X] Training Regime Pt. 2: [2 Retainer AP] The war is going to happen no matter what and I would feel better when our Hearthguard has better-trained warriors for what's coming

[X] [Simple] Re-warding Work: [2 Karstah AP] Be better to have some defenses around the stones just in case.

[X] [Simple] Write In Pt. 2: [Cost: 1 action] Azrilzhufgotten, or The Silver River Marches. Better equipped as well. We are running them ragged.
 
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Speedemon22 said:
[X] March [1 Snorri AP] Might as well see what that hammer can do. What better way to test it than against the ones trying to corrupt the world? Plus, seeing that hammer will embolden the Dawi fighting on the front.

[X] The Road to Anoqeyån Pt. 2: [3 Snorri AP] Let's finish this up, we've been putting this off for too long and I'm sure it will help in figuring out how to improve our eye.

[X] Training Regime Pt. 2: [2 Retainer AP] The war is going to happen no matter what and I would feel better when our Hearthguard has better-trained warriors for what's coming
[X] [Simple] Re-warding Work: [2 Karstah AP] Be better to have some defenses around the stones just in case.

[X] [Simple] Write In Pt. 2: [Cost: 1 action] Azrilzhufgotten, or The Silver River Marches. Better equipped as well. We are running them ragged.
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Alratan said:
A couple of thought. Because of our new hammer, shouldn't the Slave Wyrm Autopsy auto-complete? It has two progress on it already and the hammer reduces the total cost by 1.

Another thought, do the Mysterious Mystery objects count as metal for the purposes of the hammer, given that they're made of metal and they're in the material research category?
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1. The autopsies were four actions. They are now three.

2. Yes the mystery objects count. They were 12, 8 and 8 and are now 10, 6 and 6. Unless I missed one.
 
KingCrimson1081 said:
Also checking out Kradskonti is also something we should do since we found out Valaya was a bit upset with us during the trials.
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I think...that immediately taking the axe he made for his mother after getting THE rune hammer is asking for an even bigger political shit storm. Also, the Rune hammer and all the other stuff is enough to keep us occupied for a while.
 
Voikirium said:
It bears the Master Rune of Conduction (T4 Elder Magma Wyrm Blood), the Rune of Striking (T4 Sky King Crest Feathers), and the Rune of Fury (T4 Elder Griffon's Brain).
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The description is beautiful as ever.... But where is Grungni ever called the Lord of the Skies? Or are you giving him that title based on his Weapon MRune?


Master Rune of ConductionWeapon: Strikes impart extreme heat and force after a brief charge up period, the weapon grows hot enough to glow bright orange and can hold a greater amount of heat.

Armour: Softens the impacts of blows and causes an explosion when hit.
Rune of FuryWielder becomes enraged and more powerful by the memory of unfulfilled Grudges, multiple copies improves speed and damage they deal
Rune of StrikingGuides wielder to strike the foe's most vulnerable areas, multiple copies improve martial skill

Conduction would probably have to be a given on this combo since we're starting from star fire... An alternate Azyr based combo might be an idea given what we know of the winds, however its also possible to get a WTF response from the client who doesn't know that.

I can see potential synergy between Fury and Conduction based on an Asqy link of Fire (MConduction) and Anger (Fury) however I also think theres also effect anti synergy between a rune with charge up and a rune that increases striking speed.

I'm not really sure what Striking brings to a combo. I can see logic for it based on shoring up the areas that haven't been buffed by other runes, conduction and fury add power, fury adds speed, so adding increased hit chance doesn't feel like a bad choice. However it doesn't jump out as an effect thats likely to combo.

How would you feel about Strongarm as a choice? It stores enemy energy in the weapon which could be released by Conduction, and has a previous combo with Fury in Rising Rancour. It doesn't do what Striking does but I think the synergy potential is greater.

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weeblypanda said:
I think...that immediately taking the axe he made for his mother after getting THE rune hammer is asking for an even bigger political shit storm. Also, the Rune hammer and all the other stuff is enough to keep us occupied for a while.
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We are not TAKING it.
We have been invited to look at it.
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
Sorry, I meant more synergy. Like how progress and completion of research sparks progress through understanding, like how work on the Mystery stuff led to progress on other Mystery stuff, does that make sense?
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You get the reward from it regardless of how its done and if you get a bonus from Standing or a trait from completing research, like with Master of the Odd does for material research, then that too. Trait progress as well. #Mechanics
 
Just looking at the Movement of Things:

This is where we were at the end of last turn:

soulcake said:
-- +2 progress to The Movement of Things Pt. 6b, The Body: [Cost: (18 -8) =10 actions]
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This is what we gained in the Trial:

soulcake said:
-- +3 Progress to The Movement of Things Pt. 6b, The Body
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This is where we are now:

soulcake said:
(*Updated*)[ ] [Difficult] The Movement of Things Pt. 6b, The Body: [Cost: (10 -4) =6 actions]
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We seem to have gone from 11/18 progress to 4/10 progress, losing 7 accrued progress.

The total has also reduced, but that seems to be because of the reorganisation of research, reducing both the cost and benefit of each individual stage.
 
soulcake said:
To the Ancestors who lead the way so I swear,

On all that I am and will ever be.

I. Will. Reach. You.
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THERE IT IS LADS! IT IS TIME

100 PUSH UPS
100 SITUPS
100 SQUATS
10 KM RUN

LET THAT BOD REACH GRANPAPI TOO!

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Your fellow Runesmiths know you have the hammer. They are clamoring at even a chance to see the hammer. They aren't here yet, but they are coming. Ancestors help you.
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Hold yer horses BEARDLINGS, let the elder take a gander at the Hammer first will ya?

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your mild surprise either the Beardlings aren't bouncing around like rabbits or they're being more discreet about it. Then again you aren't going around and snooping over it. They want to cause their Clans grief, that's on them.
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The Temple of Valaya shall weep tears of joy as a new outlets have been found among Khazagar BEARDLINGS begetting more BEARDLINGS, spared as they are from their spaces rapidly shrinking from the annual Klausson Toyfloods.


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[ ] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
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I wonder if finshing Anoqueyan and Light at the same time as this comes around would let us more insight in comparing our eyes?
 
soulcake said:
- [Burudin] If any of my siblings tells you they know what Father thought after this, this is proof that they're as full of it as anything I've ever seen. Only one man would have a chance to know, and he isn't among us anymore.

- [Burudin] Klausson, for the sake of my sanity and yours stay away from the Ironpeak until otherwise stated. All correspondence will be done through my great-grandnephew, also until otherwise stated. - Gottri Hammerspite

- [Burudin] He'll probably be out in a few decades with a new hammer.

- [Burudin] Is this Grandfather's gambit then? I had thought Alric was waiting to show them off, but if He even hid away the hammer, well…

- [Burudin] It seems I shall have no peace until Gazul escorts me to the Halls of the Ancestors.
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The rest of the Burudin: "I have absolutely no idea what's going on right now, please stand by while I re-evaluate the last several centuries of events in the light of new data."
 
BungieONI said:
[] Plan: Refining Our Eyes and the Dragon Kaiju Begins
-[] Snorri & Karstah
--[] The Enduring War Rune 1 Snorri + 1 Karstah + 1 Retainer. Already covered, this is for action tracking purposes.
--[] [Difficult] Extra-sensory Pt. 1 2 Snorri
--[] [Simple] Slave Wyrm Autopsy 1 Simple
--[] [Simple] The Secrets of Light Pt. 2 Simple
--[] Examine Karaz-Kazak-Rhun 1 Snorri
--[] [Difficult] Convert Siphoning to Engineering 1 Snorri

--[] [Difficult] Design Skaudardrengi, The Singing Slayer, Emperor Dragon Gronti: An exemplary 45 meter Storm Wyrm forged from pure Adamant, with eyes of glowing Dronril shielded by metallic lids. Rest linked in this post.
---[] Choose: Master Rune of Awakening (T4 Greedy Troll Heart) + Empowerment (T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart) + Engineering Siphoning (T4 Greedy Troll Heart). 1 Karstah

--[] [Difficult] Build Azrilzhufgotten, The Silver River Banner: 2 Karstah
--[] [Difficult] Starlight: Due end of Turn 59.
---[] Accept
-[] Retainers & Orders
--[] Expedition, Aiding Krum 1 Retainer + 1 Industry of the North
--[] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk 1 Retainer
--[] Princely Hunting: T4 Radiant Pegasus
--[] Queenly Authority, Additional Order: T4 Barazgal 15 Kraka Grom Favor


[] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids
-[] Snorri & Karstah
--[] The Enduring War Rune 1 Snorri + 1 Karstah + 1 Retainer. Already covered, this is for action tracking purposes.
--[] [Difficult] Extra-sensory Pt. 1 2 Snorri
--[] [Simple] Slave Wyrm Autopsy 1 Simple
--[] [Simple] The Secrets of Light Pt. 2 Simple
--[] Drakk Rearing 1 Snorri + 1 Karstah
--[] [Difficult] Convert Siphoning to Engineering 1 Snorri

--[] [Difficult] Design Skaudardrengi, The Singing Slayer, Emperor Dragon Gronti: An exemplary 45 meter Storm Wyrm forged from pure Adamant, with eyes of glowing Dronril shielded by metallic lids. Rest linked in this post.
---[] Choose: Master Rune of Awakening (T4 Greedy Troll Heart) + Empowerment (T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart) + Engineering Siphoning (T4 Greedy Troll Heart). 1 Karstah

--[] [Difficult] Build Azrilzhufgotten, The Silver River Banner: 1 Karstah
--[] [Difficult] Starlight: Due end of Turn 59.
---[] Accept
-[] Retainers & Orders
--[] Expedition, Aiding Krum 1 Retainer + 1 Industry of the North
--[] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk 1 Retainer
--[] Princely Hunting: T4 Radiant Pegasus
--[] Queenly Authority, Additional Order: T4 Barazgal 15 Kraka Grom Favor

Made an alternate version of this plan where we do double drakk rearing instead of immediately examining the Hammer, and put slightly less of Karstah's efforts into the Banner so less XP on productivity but means she has some time to check in on them with Snorri. This second plan is kinda regrounding Snorri a bit with the dragon kids, at least in my mind.
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To add some info to this, the medium term plan up is to get things in order to make the dragon on T60 if that's the storm turn because we know something is going to happen that turn. We may not stormforge if Snorri can't survive it, but there's plan to at least have the tools to try if flamegrasp works the way we think it does. That means siphoning, design both of which are done this turn, waystones, then 2 smelters by turn 59. And then design and have the flamegrasp gauntlet ready by t60 as well. We're on track for that.

Next turn we'd need 3ap to finish esp. The remaining 3 we can use to build Bryn or we could compress deep gate with 1ap, let Karstah build bryn for herself, and do Bryn but better afterwards. The 2ap left can be used to finish waystones or akazit, though personally I'd do waystones, akazit can wait a bit even if I want rune metal. We need the waystones because waystones tapping 3 greater smelters + existing older ones on a storm turn theoretically will give us 165 bars in that turn, more than enough to build the dragon.

Should swap out the banner for building the gauntlets though so we can compress flamedrinking next turn potentially. We'd skip waystones in that case, do 3esp/1 deepgate/1 flamedrinking/examine hammer or compress true adamant maker. I'm pretty certain we'd get akazit progress from at least one of those compressions as well.
 
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]

[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Waystones and Banner
-[X] Snorri & Karstah
--[X] Accept Starlight
--[X] [Simple] Azrilzhufgotten Pt. 2 [2 Heir]
---[X] Combo, Goruz-Kazak Rikkaz: Master Rune of Traversal [T4 Radiant Pegasus' Heart], Rune of Impact [T3 Stonehorn Leg Muscles], Rune of Amber [T4 Barazgal].
--[X] [Simple] Flamedrinking Talismans Pt. 2 [1 Heir]
---[X] Combo, Flamedrinking: Rune of Thungni's Presence, Rune of Thungni, Rune of Forgeflame
--[X] [Simple] Merwyrm Autopsy [3 Research]
--[X] [Difficult] Monolith Mastery Pt. 1 [2 AP]
--[X] [Difficult] Extrasensory Perception Pt. 1 [2 AP]
-[X] Retainers & Orders
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Krum [1 Retainer + Industry of the North]
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk [1 Retainer]
--[X] Order: Elder Stonehorn's Horns
--[X] Queenly Authority Order: Barazgal [-15 Kraka Grom Favor]

[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Hammer and Drakks
-[X] Snorri & Karstah
--[X] Accept Starlight
--[X] Drakk Rearing [1 Heir]
--[X] [Difficult] Design Skaudardrengi, The Singing Slayer, Emperor Dragon Gronti [1 Heir]
---[X] An exemplary Storm Wyrm forged from pure Adamant, with eyes of glowing Dronril shielded by metallic lids. It is as large as the largest and oldest Wyrms at forty five meters from nose to tail and its scales shine with power. The story of Kraka Drakk and it's inhabitants is inscribed onto its wings in panoramic mural and gemstones. This artwork and its immense might are meant to be a tribute to the Hold that Snorri has lived in for almost half a millennia, to mark Khazagar as a legacy for Kraka Drakk. Thus its power is meant to defeat the greatest members of the Dumi. It is cleverly designed such that it weighs far less than expected for its size and offsets some of its significant ground pressure. Furthermore, its Horns, Wings, front left Claw, and three special chest scales for Armor runes, are all designed to have runes of their own in the future. A mechanism in its mouth will hold the item that creates its Breath Weapon. Finally, a cleverly concealed Adamant screw-plug longer than two dwarfs are tall is in its chest, held in place by a perfect fit and massive internal locking bars and mechanisms which are unlocked by secret commands given to the Gronti - and behind this plug in the core of its body lies its Heart Chamber. The animating Runes of the Gronti are inscribed into the walls of this Heart Chamber, while a slot for the future Heart itself lies empty. [Uses 192 Bars of Adamant. The theme of this: "A metal behemoth of the Storm Above and the Deep Below. Cladding itself in the Storm within, its thunder and might fueled by the endless vigor of the Deep."]
---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Awakening [T4 Greedy Troll Heart], Rune of Empowerment [T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart], Rune of Siphoning (Engineering) [T4 Greedy Troll Heart].
--[X] [Simple] Flamedrinking Talismans Pt. 2 [1 Heir]
---[X] Combo, Flamedrinking: Rune of Thungni's Presence, Rune of Thungni, Rune of Forgeflame
--[X] Examine Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [1 AP]
--[X] [Simple] Merwyrm Autopsy [3 Research]
--[X] [Difficult] Extrasensory Perception Pt. 1 [2 AP]
--[X] [Difficult] Convert a Regular Rune: Siphoning to Engineering [1 AP]
-[X] Retainers & Orders
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Krum [1 Retainer + Industry of the North]
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk [1 Retainer]
--[X] Order: Elder Stonehorn's Horns
--[X] Queenly Authority Order: Barazgal [-15 Kraka Grom Favor]
 
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[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]

[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Waystones and Banner
[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Hammer and Drakks
[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids

Gah all the socials are always so tempting.
 
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I've missed the debate, what plans are there for going to war?

Holing up like a hermit while good dwarfs and elves are fighting and dying feels like a moral failure on Snorri's part.

Research and crafting can wait until people aren't fighting and dying en masse.
 
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[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]

Of course, Byrnna for more of that eyes and fellow recluses catching up

Dwalin to see his BEARDLING clearing his daddy's 5 minute record in lung excersises!
 
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