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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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Evillevi said:
It was always an option after we recovered from the first Anvil forging. The problem was the research grind would have to be sacrificed to enable constantly marching and preparing for war.
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But the multiple sets of armour? SPECIFICALLY.
When did we have the ability to replace BA in a way that probably wouldn't make us unable to use the cape without suffering DOT's?
 
LightLan said:
Odds the spell detonates Albion because Malekith does not know about it?
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It's not out of question that there might be some backlash from the detonation. But probably not *certain*. Albion has ogham stones- they aren't the Waystones that Snorri is familiar with. They have a very different purpose and function to the Waystones.

The humans made the Ogham stone network in Albion to calm the flow of magic from the north and eventually act as a surge breaker/surge capacitor for the Elves' Vortex and use the island to sink excess magic/Warp energy that the Vortex would not be able to handle.
 
Evillevi said:
by equipment meant our rings weapons and banner,

like how we predicted assassin style counters and have a ring to deal with it
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Well you said armour not equipment. If you said equipment I wouldn't have asked.
Also you just gave an example of something we did while using it to explain that we missed an opportunity to do that thing?
 
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Dark as Silver said:
Well you said armour not equipment. If you said equipment I wouldn't have asked.
Also you just gave an example of something we did while using it to explain that we missed an opportunity to do that thing?
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I did?

Oh yeah I did. Sorry about that. I thought I wrote equipment.

As for your second question, it's more to do with accelerating the ending of the war by consistently countering our counters that counter our counter ad infinity. So a selection of rings/weapons/secondary equipment to keep ahead of the RnD counter metagame between the Fimir and Us.

While we would definite win with only our Ash storm and general invulnerability, to meet any accelerated deadline such as the malekith one would have required effort to maintain 1 captured city a turn, which was not guaranteed since the army we're escorting is vulnerable to the (anti army ressurection caudrons/magic user/etc) that the Fimir was fielding while their counters were delaying us.
 
In terms of using our dragon gronti to and the war, the issue I see is that we're not the only ones who can predict them and so Malkeith may well want to end the war before the next Storm of Magic, in fear that the Fimir might also be able to exploit it to make them a harder target or somehow acquire enough magical might to make the Waystone detonation plan infeasible or too risky.

aceraptor said:
It's not out of question that there might be some backlash from the detonation. But probably not *certain*. Albion has ogham stones- they aren't the Waystones that Snorri is familiar with. They have a very different purpose and function to the Waystones.

The humans made the Ogham stone network in Albion to calm the flow of magic from the north and eventually act as a surge breaker/surge capacitor for the Elves' Vortex and use the island to sink excess magic/Warp energy that the Vortex would not be able to handle.
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I'm not sure if the surviving pupils of the Old Ones on Albion made the Ogham stones themselves, or if they worked with the giants there to rearrange the stones the Old Ones left behind to restructure the network on the island to do something else.

As a side note, those pupils at least originally included elves and dwarves as well as humans, so there could be all three species, as well as less degenerate giants, currently living on Albion.
 
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Alratan said:
As a side note, those pupils at least originally included elves and dwarves as well as humans, so there could be all three species, as well as less degenerate giants, currently living on Albion.
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At present the Sky Titans should still be living their best life, some of the eastern dawi have probably already encountered a few.

As for the giants of Albion, depending on how long they live the first generation created directly by the Old Ones could still be alive. At this point in time it's likely they haven't degenerated at all.
 
idea for mega gronti we make, a starcraft style odin complete with artillery guns which can be overpowered as hell since it can withstand an extreme amount of gunpowder in its barrels
 
soulcake said:
So it is to no surprise, but great joy regardless, that on the first day of the year 123 A.P., Clan Ironarm announces that the future queen of the hold, Kaggra Ironarm Neé Redaxe, has given birth to a fine and healthy young boy. Already the elders of the Clan speak of the strength of his arm and the vigour he displays, only days after tasting his first spoonful of Stonesoup in Valay's temple.
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It should be '...Valaya's* temple.'
 
Considering our findings surrounding dwarves and runesmiths, we should investigate how a dwarf dying of old age looks to our sight and if it is affected by the presence of runic power.

We might concoct a "Rune of Longevity" that prevents a dwarf from succumbing to old age.
I million new 'Living Ancestors'!
 
KingCrimson1081 said:
Dwarves only die of old age if they are satisfied with their work and have nothing left to do
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Though I know this is the lore justification given, I just don't buy that this is the case for all dawi.
It sounds too much like a rationalization to me. It sounds too much like the internal explanation given amongst the dwarfs as to why some people live longer than others, when no one knows the reason. Especially during the golden age of the Ankor. I can see that in an age where the dawi are beaten down by shame and old grudges that many would find the feast in Gazul's halls a release, but during the golden age? When the Realm is strong the the future bright? When The Ancestors walked among them? No.
Much more reasonable then, that it is observed that some people live much longer than others, and an explanation is invented that reinforces the cultural norms and values. "The Living Ancestors are just so dedicated to their craft and duty that they refuse to die." "The Living Ancestors are so stubborn they will continue living."
And when an old dwarf feels that age is catching up to them and their body is starting to deteriorate? "It is my own fault that I was not as good as the Old Masters. In my shame, I will start to prepare for my passing."

I think many dawi would relish the chance to continue perfecting their craft if given the possibility, though this rune would probably need to be approved by both the cult of Valaya and Gazul before use.
 
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Niksol said:
Considering our findings surrounding dwarves and runesmiths, we should investigate how a dwarf dying of old age looks to our sight
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Nobody ever truly died of old age.
Is always something breaking somewhere that pushes the body past the brink.
Chest getting to weak to breate after years of very slow degradation or vein in the brain breaking after years of getting weaker.
Old age might be the reason why It Is easier for It to break but never the cause of death.

To our sight a death by old age migth have more shysh around It and less aqshy comprared to a battlefield wound one.
But they are a lot closer than people suspect on many level
 
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Franksson said:
Nobody ever truly died of old age.
Is always something breaking somewhere that pushes the body past the brink.
Chest getting to weak to breate after years of very slow degradation or vein in the brain breaking after years of getting weaker.
Old age might be the reason why It Is easier for It to break but never the cause of death.

To our sight a death by old age migth have more shysh around It and less aqshy comprared to a battlefield wound one.
But they are a lot closer than people suspect on many level
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Yes, in the real world that is true. Death is a mechanical problem. Stuff breaks down that can not be repaired. Enough wear and tear and the system is unable to provide for the conditions for the brain to keep operating.

But for dwarfs, some live significantly longer than others, and though they keep getting older, they don't degrade the same way as humans do. Muscles do not atrophy. Brains do not degrade. Is there even a limit to how old dawi women can be and still be fertile?
So clearly something different is happening there.
 
KingCrimson1081 said:
Dwarves only die of old age if they are satisfied with their work and have nothing left to do so I doubt that Rune would get much traction and might be seen in a negative light.
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I'm not sure. I think that's true for Living Ancestors like Snorri and other Golden Age Runelords but not for regular dwarves. See here:

BungieONI said:
@soulcake do we have to start worrying about Otrek dying of old age yet? IIRC he's about a century and half behind Snorri's age.
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soulcake said:
Were he a normal dwarf yes, but he's a member of a Noble clan, they tend to get older than regular dwarfs. I mean not to be morbid, but you'll see old age rear her head soon enough.
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Besides any fanciful new ventures about dwarven firearms or immortality, we still need to do something for Valaya after (accidentally) snubbing her during Thungni's trials.
 
Niksol said:
But for dwarfs, some live significantly longer than others, and though they keep getting older, they don't degrade the same way as humans do.
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Canon wise they absolutly do.
The proportion of time in wich It happens Is way lower than in human but a Dawi will hit a point of actual aging like us.
It starts to happen around 380 years out of a lifespan of 400 but It does happen.
Old Dawi also start sleping weeks at a time.
Source Grotek and Felix and the war of vengeance series( wich includes a very much seniled withe dwarf).

Royal clans and runesmiths and golden Age have somthing funky going on i.e. gw wanting to push the each generation Is worse than the last trope.

By the way for soulbound duardin get to 200 so It Is still going on.
 
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