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Darkwood's Backburner Workshop
Project: Burudin Challenge, Alric's (Create a method of reliable, quick and secure communication as possible.)
Datapoint: The Master Rune of Galkarin projects panes of golden energy.
Datapoint: Snorri Klausson knows the Armour variant of the Master Rune of Galkarin.
Proposal: Develop a Talisman variant of the Master Rune of Galkarin that can project indented panes of energy, and combine it with Transcription and Storage Runes to give it memory and a basic understanding of words; with the intent of developing a mass data storage medium, such as a stone tablet that can contain a book of information.
Potential Uses:
1. A variable output point for data transmission. Such as with the lens and light option, removing the need for piles and piles of slates.
2. (If combined with a lock) A data storage medium that is impossible for non-authorized personnel to read (As if the Rune is deactivated the slate would appear blank)
 
Not sure if this has come up before, but Snorri's had some thoughts about transferring/storing memories, correct? And he's been spending a lot of time working on research projects like The Mind of Things and all those Gronti/golem related research trees. Has there been any thought amongst the questers of Snorri eventually transferring his consciousness into some sort of Snorri-Gronti, or if he's feeling especially ambitious, several? After all the only thing better than one Living Ancestor greatly girded against the inevitable ravages of time, it's several copies of that same Living Ancestor greatly girded against the inevitable ravages of time.

(that and it would really pump up our action economy)
 
Not sure if this has come up before, but Snorri's had some thoughts about transferring/storing memories, correct? And he's been spending a lot of time working on research projects like The Mind of Things and all those Gronti/golem related research trees. Has there been any thought amongst the questers of Snorri eventually transferring his consciousness into some sort of Snorri-Gronti, or if he's feeling especially ambitious, several? After all the only thing better than one Living Ancestor greatly girded against the inevitable ravages of time, it's several copies of that same Living Ancestor greatly girded against the inevitable ravages of time.

(that and it would really pump up our action economy)
There has not been much discussion of that, in part because as a character its highly unlikely Snorri would actually decide to do that unless he was Actually Dying. And even in such a scenario, he probably wouldn't.

As is, its more likely that he ends up creating Waking Elements constructs that follow him around and bear some of his skill.

A problem with several Snorri copies as well is that only one of them, the actual Snorri, would be able to forge Runes since that needs Snorri's soul. And so far we've found zero leads on manipulating the soul of a Dwarf to copy it or expand it across multiple bodies - and fragmenting it to spread it across multiple bodies would be deadly or extremely bad.
 
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idea, snorri gronti's with memory transfer rune not to hold snorri's mind, but to learn skills to transfer to snorri
have a gronti working on perfecting smithing skills
another gronti on carpentry
another on etc etc
and periodically they transfer the skill knowledge to snorri while continuing to aim to improve.
shadow clone no jutsu? no! Stone Snorri with runes use you!
 
Not sure if this has come up before, but Snorri's had some thoughts about transferring/storing memories, correct? And he's been spending a lot of time working on research projects like The Mind of Things and all those Gronti/golem related research trees. Has there been any thought amongst the questers of Snorri eventually transferring his consciousness into some sort of Snorri-Gronti, or if he's feeling especially ambitious, several? After all the only thing better than one Living Ancestor greatly girded against the inevitable ravages of time, it's several copies of that same Living Ancestor greatly girded against the inevitable ravages of time.

(that and it would really pump up our action economy)
There was something similar in the Age of Sigmar omake but even in that Snorri still had his one body. And I think there would be a restriction of having only one copy at a time of a person.
 
Darkwood's Backburner Workshop
Project: Burudin Challenge, Alric's (Create a method of reliable, quick and secure communication as possible.)
Datapoint: The Master Rune of Galkarin projects panes of golden energy.
Datapoint: Snorri Klausson knows the Armour variant of the Master Rune of Galkarin.
Proposal: Develop a Talisman variant of the Master Rune of Galkarin that can project indented panes of energy, and combine it with Transcription and Storage Runes to give it memory and a basic understanding of words; with the intent of developing a mass data storage medium, such as a stone tablet that can contain a book of information.
Potential Uses:
1. A variable output point for data transmission. Such as with the lens and light option, removing the need for piles and piles of slates.
2. (If combined with a lock) A data storage medium that is impossible for non-authorized personnel to read (As if the Rune is deactivated the slate would appear blank)
We don't know the limits on Galkarin and Set-Galagrim, its likely that they're restricted to line of sight or at least the wielder needs to be able to understand where to position them (since they need to be directed) and a distance of a couple hundred meters or a battlefield.
These aren't really limits for the normal use of these runes however they do block the use for a user to project their message into another kings throne room.
The difference in distance is orders of magnitude larger than what either MRune has been proven to do before. And the difference in precision needed scales proportionally.

As an idea, I'd put it ahead of the Magic mirror proposal just because we've got an idea on where we can start before needing to invoke elf mages.
 
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We don't know the limits on Galkarin and Set-Galagrim, its likely that they're restricted to line of sight or at least the wielder needs to be able to understand where to position them (since they need to be directed) and a distance of a couple hundred meters or a battlefield.
These aren't really limits for the normal use of these runes however they do block the use for a user to project their message into another kings throne room.
The difference in distance is orders of magnitude larger than what either MRune has been proven to do before. And the difference in precision needed scales proportionally.

As an idea, I'd put it ahead of the Magic mirror proposal just because we've got an idea on where we can start before needing to invoke elf mages.
Intention misread. Context of function: Proposal is not as a separate mechanism, but as an Add-on. The Rune doesn't need to project very far, only a centimeter or so, as the intended produced item is a handheld slate (Only projects right on its surface). As stated in Potential Use 1, If COMBINED with another that transfers data over long distance, to act as a data storage medium, it saves on raw 'paper' (Or granite, or gold, or whatever the dawi are writing on.), and increases security; as without use of a 'key' (Turning on the rune) the messages received would be utterly unreadable. (As all they get is a blank slate with a rune/a few runes on it.

The set item's rune are intended to function as Screen (MRune of Galkarin), Read/Write function (Transcription), and Memory Drive (Storage), thus making a slate that stores text it receives nside itself like a computer. The precise Runes involved may need to be altered, but this is my proposal for part of the Runesmith Communications System. Alone its just a glorified Clipboard or maybe an Ipad.
(Apologies for the intensity.)
 
Intention misread. Context of function: Proposal is not as a separate mechanism, but as an Add-on. The Rune doesn't need to project very far, only a centimeter or so, as the intended produced item is a handheld slate (Only projects right on its surface). As stated in Potential Use 1, If COMBINED with another that transfers data over long distance, to act as a data storage medium, it saves on raw 'paper' (Or granite, or gold, or whatever the dawi are writing on.), and increases security; as without use of a 'key' (Turning on the rune) the messages received would be utterly unreadable. (As all they get is a blank slate with a rune/a few runes on it.

The set item's rune are intended to function as Screen (MRune of Galkarin), Read/Write function (Transcription), and Memory Drive (Storage), thus making a slate that stores text it receives nside itself like a computer. The precise Runes involved may need to be altered, but this is my proposal for part of the Runesmith Communications System. Alone its just a glorified Clipboard or maybe an Ipad.
(Apologies for the intensity.)
In that case you're ignoring the actual hard part of the challenge to focus on something that does relatively little and still overcomplicating it by invoking a Master Rune when Gildercoat exists.

Of all of the issues that have been raised against proposed plans, "Where will they get all the paper needed?" was never one.

This concept gains nothing over previously suggested variation of the Transcription idea, and only adds an additional step.
 
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In that case you're ignoring the actual hard part of the challenge to focus on something that does relatively little and still overcomplicating it by invoking a Master Rune when Gildercoat exists.

Of all of the issues that have been raised against proposed plans, "Where will they get all the paper needed?" was never one.

This concept gains nothing over previously suggested variation of the Transcription idea, and only adds an additional step.
Paper comment was a throwaway line. Intention is primarily Security. The entire reason the MRune of Galkarin is considered in this model is because it functions as a Hard Light projection, which can be turned OFF, thus preventing what's on the slate from being read.
This proposal IS an additional step, a contingency to be added onto the succeeding method (If initially designed with the Light, Forged Eye, and Transcription combo contraption in mind), that's the entire point. My understanding is that all proposals thus far, save the Gronti Messengers one, rely on fixed sending and drop-off points, leaving room for interception if they are located (Which may be quite easy to do if one of the light based methods is used). I am attempting to shore up a perceived weakness, that is all.
 
Ayyyyyy finally finished binging through this! Great quest you guys have going on here. Honestly if this quest were to have ended with Snorri biting it in Thrugni's trials I would've been satisfied but I'm really happy he's trying to go the distance and become an Ancestor/Ancestor God in his own right.

Although... what would he be the Ancestor God of, exactly? Toymaking? Doing really audacious nonsense and having it succeed? Apprentice-rearing? The World's First Magick Dorf?

speaking of the Ancestor Gods, where exactly did they vanish off too? Did they just keel over from old age?

Also, what is a "RER crit"? What's a RER roll? I tried searching around in hopes of an unabbreviated mention but so far I've come up dry.
Welcome to the front!

The general idea people have been shooting for for Snorri is Alchemy; a way of combining runes and the winds.
 
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