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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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[X][MissingWhen] I haven't decided if I want to go missing
[X][MissingWhen] I want us to not go missing

My biggest issue is Ino's fate.
 
[X][MissingWhen] I want to go missing but not until certain things have happened
[X][MissingWhen] I haven't decided if I want to go missing
[X][MissingWhen]Write in: I 'd rather not go missing than have all of Team Uplift go missing

[X][MissingHow] Take a long-term mission so that we are expected to be out of Leaf for a few weeks / months, then don't come back
[X][MissingHow] Take a long-term mission so that we are expected to be out of Leaf for a few weeks / months, then briefly come back and leave on another mission. Eventually, just don't come back.

[X][MissingWho] Hazō and Kagome
[X][MissingWho] Hazō, Kagome and Mari

[X][OrochimaruProcess] Have Orochimaru do the bioseal process that will break Hidan's current tracking lock on Hazō
 
Inferno Vulpix said:
The consequence, of course, is what Orochimaru will do to us during the surgery. I do agree with the sentiment that it's functionally inevitable he will install some sort of countermeasure against us for the eventuality where we become enemies (say, a kill-switch that he needs only activate a certain jutsu to use). I'm... not actually all that worried about that? We just had a talk with Orochimaru about killing essies, and how the only sensible way to do that is from a great distance through indirect-yet-incredibly-potent means without them even knowing they are being targetted. The set of events where we face Orochimaru in a direct showdown and are thus crippled by such a killswitch is, in my opinion, negligible. And more broadly, while I do think Orochimaru would install a kill-switch like that (or at least that we would have to assume he did, and thus act with the assumption that it's there), it does appear that Orochimaru prides himself on being a fair dealer. I don't think we will have to worry about him installing "come for repeat surgeries every month or die" gotchas when (IIRC) he already said that the procedure does not involve anything of the sort. My expectation is that we will come out of the surgery with only one negative externality that in practice has negligible impact.
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I'm not really that concerned about a killswitch, I'm more concerned about some kind of "Oro-aligner" installation. IE we will start to maximize his utility function instead of our own. We talk to him in Arachnid or something and he tells us to do a project and we prioritize his over ours. That sort of thing. I'd bet he can be pretty subtle about it too. And the rest of the team won't trust that we don't have something like that after we get an operation...
 
[X][MissingWhen] I want to go missing but not until certain things have happened
[X][MissingHow] Take a long-term mission so that we are expected to be out of Leaf for a few weeks / months, then don't come back
[X][MissingWho] Modern Team Uplift (Hazō, Kagome, Mari, Kei, Noburi, Yuno)
[X][OrochimaruProcess] Have Orochimaru do the bioseal process that will break Hidan's current tracking lock on Hazō
 
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faflec said:
I can't wait for Itachi to butcher his way through all the named Goketsu civilians claiming to be looking for one that might have an inkling of an idea of where Hazou went off to, knowing full well that none of them would have any idea and that the entire massacre was to a) calm his raging fury; b) serve as a message to Hazou; and c) show everyone that the Goketsu bailed on everyone when it came down to it.
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I don't think he'll do this. Like yeah he sucks, he's a man-child. Classie essie/S-wanker.

But he prides himself on being a "statesman" I don't think he'll torture a bunch of civvies out of frustration. Also while Naruto is breathing down his neck the whole time.
 
For the many, many people voteing "go missing very soon, with all of uplift+yuno, under cover or a scroll hunt", may I point you to the following plan:


Left-Hand Mutant said:
[X] Treasonous Meetings
  • Sanity check with Mari
  • Meet with Cannai.
    • Explain the necromancy situation.
    • This is as big a deal, on par with the dragons, and it's all relying on us.
    • We can't solve this problem while in Leaf, and staying in leaf endangers our family and clan.
    • We feel we need to go missing until we can win the necromancy race. Will you support us in this?
      • This initially means pretending that we died in the field.
      • Latter, this may mean turning Akatsuki away from your borders
      • Aditionaly, any expert training you or your best teachers can provide would help enormously.
      • Please encourage an EJounin combat doggy to contract with us - our survival is vital to both our paths.
  • Meet with Maero(IFF it takes a few hours or less)
    • Bring luxuries and drinks
    • Does he know TH? Will he teach us? Pretty pretty please?
    • Confirm that our orgy-assassination attempt is still in process, we're getting Mari a scroll, and she can't wait to meet him.(tone: playfull)
  • Max-security meeting with Family(uplift +Yuno)
    • Explain Necromancy, Runes, ect.
    • Going missing(temporarily!) seems like the only way forward.
      • Give everyone a chance to discuss alternate options, we'd love a better alternative, but don't think one exists.
    • If no one has a better plan, we'll leave on a "scroll hunt" or other long-term mission tomorrow, and want everyone here to join us.
      • We need to leave now, before WHOOSH fully leaks and Noburi is confined to leaf.
      • We'll send false reports, then fake our deaths after a month or two(if we can get our summon bosses to cooperate.)
        • Longer-term options include making a research fortress over a random patch of ocean, but we're open to suggestions
      • Kei, Snowflake, should we hire Tenten to join us?
        • Would she be willing to join us as missing nin? What would be best for her?
    • Pre-mission prep
      • Be really careful not to act strangely, and try to minimise contact with people who might see through you(Tsunade, Shika, etc.)
      • Kagome needs to stay in his room and not talk to anyone until we go, a Mari clone can do shopping and other prep for him.
      • Mari: learn all the tower lighting jutsu.
      • Kei/Snowflake/Mari: use what intelligence reports you can access to put together a list of useful targets. Especially get current bingo books, known jashin temples, known users of A/S-Rank earth element buffs, and leads on a TH instructor.(if Mareo can't teach TH)
      • Stockpile goods on the 7th path. Include luxuries for Maero, sealing supplies, and anything we can't get in the field.
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I lied and am doing votes here instead, for reasons

[x][MissingWhen] I want to go missing immediately, in the next day or two at the most

I'm team "let's not let Nobs become a barrel boy", and step 0 to that is making sure he gets strong enough to reject being a giant chakra battery before people start realizing the power of said chakra battery.

[x][MissingWho] Modern Team Uplift + Reo (TH) (Hazō, Kagome, Mari, Kei, Noburi, Yuno Reo the Gōketsu TH teacher)
[x][MissingWho] Modern Team Uplift (Hazō, Kagome, Mari, Kei, Noburi, Yuno)
[x][MissingWho] Ino

I think it's going to be a hard sell to take Mari, and I think we could probably stand to leave her from a "protect the clan" interests standpoint (and an appeasement since we're taking Noburi), but I think we're still taking a pretty big combat crew with us, and that's probably not gonna be super great. I don't see any way we can take Tsnuade and Oro, for instance, as cool and impactful as that'd be. I'd be open to planting the seeds for both of them, so we can maybe hit him up Jiraiya-style. In my mind, bare minimum is Hazou, Kagome, Noburi, and maybe Reo.

I'd love to take Ino, but I doubt there's a way to swing it.

[x][MissingHow] Take a long-term mission so that we are expected to be out of Leaf for a few weeks / months, then don't come back

Can there be a sealing failure that needs dealing with? Some weirdness somewhere that we're best equipped to deal with? Oh hey those blade horrors might have escaped, we should check on that.

[x][MissingWhen] I want to go missing but not until certain things have happened

If we can find a way to stall the Noburi issue, I think milking TH for as much as it's worth in Leaf before we leave is probably worthwhile. I'd love some more time to prep Ino / Shika / (if we're not taking her) Kei. I'd like scouting and planning and getting administrative things sorted out so we have a clan to return to, theoretically. I'm sure there are other reasons I could come up with, but honestly after a certain point we gotta bite the bullet, so those are the big things that come to mind.

[x][MissingHow] Take a long-term mission so that we are expected to be out of Leaf for a few weeks / months, then briefly come back and leave on another mission. Eventually, just don't come back.

This is the slow burn process -- totally okay with it, but there's no way we can do it with Noburi, so we're kinda shafted here.

[x][OrochimaruProcess] Do not have Orochimaru do the bioseal process that will break Hidan's current tracking lock on Hazō

High risk, medium reward? I could definitely be swayed here.
 
Sealing research rolls have now been added to the update:
eaglejarl said:
Great Seal:
Now that he has his wits about him, Hazō will again do a prep day to try to figure out what's going on with the Great Seal:
Hazō (Primordial Sealing): 11 + 25 (cross-disciplinary bonus from Sealing) - 6 = 30

He still can't quite wrap his head around it. The Great Seal is just too complex for him to understand.

Light Shift:
Easy peasy, no prep required.

Hazō (Calligraphy): 47 + 3 (Dampener) - 6 = 44
Hazō (Sealing): 51 - 6 = 45

Ouch, just barely missed completing it. Ah well, no point burning a reroll here.

Hazō (Calligraphy): 47 + 3 (Dampener) - 6 = 44
Hazō (Sealing): 51 + 3 = 54

Done! Unfortunately, this seal doesn't achieve the intended benefit of making it easier to see camouflaged enemies, as it only outputs a single color of light in the same way as the other Lantern-derived seals.

Substitution Seals:

Hazō (Calligraphy): 47 + 3 (Dampener) - 12 = 38
Hazō spends a FP to reroll!
Hazō (Calligraphy): 47 + 3 (Dampener) + 6 = 56
Hazō (Sealing): 51 + 3 = 54

Hazō (Calligraphy): 47 + 3 (Dampener) + 6 = 56
Hazō (Sealing): 51 + 3 = 54

Hazō (Calligraphy): 47 + 3 (Dampener) + 6 = 56
Hazō (Sealing): 51 + 3 = 54

Hazō (Calligraphy): 47 + 3 (Dampener) + 3 = 53
Hazō (Sealing): 51 - 3 = 48

Hazō (Calligraphy): 47 + 3 (Dampener) + 0 = 50
Hazō (Sealing): 51 - 3 = 48

Setting aside one point early in the project where he really took it easy with his seal scribing and barely caught a potentially-dangerous error, Hazō finds the Substitution seal to be an entertaining puzzle – somewhat challenging but not too strenuous to work on. He thinks he'll be done in one or two more days of research at this pace.

Force Walls:
No prep, SSA on.

Hazō (Calligraphy): 47 + 3 (Dampener) + 6 = 56
Hazō (Sealing): 51 + 24 (SSA) + 6 = 81

Hazō thinks he's very close to getting this seal finished up.

Reusable Rocket Boots:
[@Paperclipped writing this]
The plan says to invoke as much as possible. In the past, we've occasionally granted Aspects like "Team Uplift" and "Lord of Clan Gōketsu" on sealing research, but I think this was rather generous – Hazō's sealing-related Aspect is "Out-Touched Sealing Genius", and these other ones really are meant to fill other roles (LoCG representing his social position, primarily for social-combat reasons, and Team Uplift… I'm not exactly sure).

I'm increasingly inclined to be very stingy about granting Aspects for sealing research (particularly as a result of trying to model other top-end researchers like Orochimaru and Sasori, and wanting their highest-achievable-sealing-rolls to be reasonably low), so I do not expect that I would grant these Aspects in the future. Still, the players didn't know this before the plan and Hazō is flush with justly-earned FP, so I'll grant "Team Uplift" while Hazō is working on RRBs (since Hazō's primary motivation with this seal is to keep TU safe if/when he goes missing). Just be aware of this for the future.

Hazō (Calligraphy): 47 + 3 (IN) + 12 (prep) + 3 (Dampeners) + 3 = 68
Hazō (Sealing): 51 + 24 (SSA) + 16 (prep) + 8 (Invoke "Out-Touched Sealing Genius") + 8 (Invoke "Team Uplift") + ? (Kazushi's assistance) - 6 = 101 + ?
Hazōpilot would probably reroll here, for progress rather than safety, but the plan overrides him.

Kazushi is well out of his league here, but he's still helping! Together, they make pretty substantial progress on RRBs. Hazō thinks he's about a third of the way done.
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Sir Stompy said:
Hazou SC XP: 32 * (1.9 - 0.3 (TH) - 0.4 (Sealing)) = 38.4 SC XP
Kei SC XP: 32 * 1.7 = 54.4 SC XP
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Added. Note that Hazō's stagnancy was suspended for this update as he was working on RRBs.
 
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I knew we wouldn't be able to get three aspects on sealing! Was a tad surprised we are going to struggle to get two going forward though.

Still annoyed that we don't have "The Golden Goose" after our repeated miracle-deliveries to Konoha or "Discoverer of Primoridal Sealing" as an aspect. If discovering an entire field isn't enough to get an aspect on rolling it, then no one should have aspects in this day and age.
 
eaglejarl said:
Done! Unfortunately, this seal doesn't achieve the intended benefit of making it easier to see camouflaged enemies, as it only outputs a single color of light in the same way as the other Lantern-derived seals.
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*blinks*

That's... not what we asked to research.
eaglejarl said:
@Sir Stompy or anyone : What is the Light Switch seal?
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Sir Stompy said:
Aw crud, it's a typo for "Light Shift"

This one
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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

Light Shift seal Paper seal Desired characteristics: when wrapped around a telescope and activated, shifts light passing through the telescope a little towards violet (sufficient to change red into orange or yellow). Intent being to counter visual camoflauge by disrupting colour patterns...
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Inferno Vulpix said:
Light Shift seal
Paper seal

Desired characteristics: when wrapped around a telescope and activated, shifts light passing through the telescope a little towards violet (sufficient to change red into orange or yellow). Intent being to counter visual camoflauge by disrupting colour patterns, allowing for objects of interest to more easily stand out against the background.

(OOC intent: if this works as expected, it should hopefully give us the necessary hook for discovering IR light and eventually radio. If it doesn't, it'll still make a good gift to anyone with a telescope).
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Being a Lantern derivative isn't part of the specification here, I don't see how it could wind up overriding the actual specifications provided. If you mean to say "this seal is only easy if it's a Lantern derivative and thus useless" then I mean fine, but I'd personally like to work on the functionality I actually described here.
 
[X][MissingWhen] I haven't decided if I want to go missing
[X][MissingWhen] I want to go missing but not until certain things have happened

[X][MissingHow] Take a long-term mission so that we are expected to be out of Leaf for a few weeks / months, then don't come back

[X][MissingWho] Hazō and Kagome

[X][OrochimaruProcess] Have Orochimaru do the bioseal process that will break Hidan's current tracking lock on Hazō
 
faflec said:
Thanks. How long is [Kei and Yuno's] mission anticipated to last?
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About a week.

Inferno Vulpix said:
*blinks*

That's... not what we asked to research.



Being a Lantern derivative isn't part of the specification here, I don't see how it could wind up overriding the actual specifications provided. If you mean to say "this seal is only easy if it's a Lantern derivative and thus useless" then I mean fine, but I'd personally like to work on the functionality I actually described here.
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Ah rats. Looks like I misread, sorry about that. Will get back to you and possibly revise the research rolls.
 
[X][MissingWho] Leaving behind Leaders (take Hazou, Kagome, Mari only

[X][MissingWho] Hazō, Kagome and Mari

[X][MissingWhen]Write in: I 'd rather not go missing than have all of Team Uplift go missing

[X][MissingWho] Just enough to power game, bio+seal, and to path hop (Noburi, Hazou, Kagome)
 
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