Yeah but his exactly are we "pulling" and what constitutes ground?
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Inconsistency of Chakra


Chakra is either wildly complicated or actively trolling you. It behaves inconsistently and appears to change its definitions at the drop of a hat. This applies to all jutsu, elemental and non-elemental, but Vampiric Dew and Hiding Like a Mole make particularly good examples:

Vampiric Dew will drain through liquid water and dense mist, but the required density of the mist is fussy and differs from day to day.

Hiding Like a Mole allows you to pass through solid earth, except sometimes you are blocked from moving forward and it's unclear why. You can never move through solid rock but that's about the only certainty...except when you were next to the Great Seal, at which point it worked fine. There appears to be some correlation with the soil type, as it fails more often when there's a lot of gravel in the dirt, but not always. It could be the size of the particles, or precisely what they're made of, or the amount of worm poop in them for all you know. Not only is it impossible to pin down, it seems to be actively inconsistent as sometimes you'll be blocked from passing through a certain section of ground but it will work fine the next day. No matter what you have tried you have not been able to nail down any precise rules, nor has anyone else you've spoken to or read about. In your more frustrated moments you're almost certain that chakra is actively trolling you.



In more meta words: Definitions of what counts as 'earth' or 'mist' or 'plants' or 'living things' or etc are based on authorial fiat and we aren't going to bother remembering every decision we've made in the past and ensuring that they are consistent going forward. As a general rule regarding the one that's most likely to come up: Unless stated otherwise, 'earth' usually refers to soil or sand but not rock. The dividing lines and edge cases are decided by authorial fiat and will not necessarily be consistent.
 
They went into the next room over, I believe.
My point was that these two statements are definitely inconsistent.

It was lucky that both Hazō and Kei had independently had the idea of bringing their summoning scrolls to the Hokage's briefing in case they needed to communicate urgently with their summons, and equally lucky that they were among the first to arrive, and therefore could pause outside the Hokage's office for a brief jaunt to a distant, alien world while waiting for the other clan heads.

Despite his best efforts, Hazō was the last one into the war council. Needing a cane did that to a person.
 
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Chapter 460: Towards an Uncertain Future

"Hazō." Kei gave a ghost of a smile. "Probability dictates that it must be a good morning somewhere, perhaps in Fang or Claw. If so, please assume we are there for the purpose of phatic greetings."

"It is good to see you," Snowflake said (today identified by the bright green ribbon snaking through her hair).
As if the difference in greeting wasn't enought to easily distinguish between them.

"I take it Shikamaru briefed you on the Clan Council meeting, then," he said sympathetically.
It was lucky that both Hazō and Kei had independently had the idea of bringing their summoning scrolls to the Hokage's briefing in case they needed to communicate urgently with their summons, and equally lucky that they were among the first to arrive, and therefore could pause outside the Hokage's office for a brief jaunt to a distant, alien world while waiting for the other clan heads.

"So, Hazō," Kei began, "what new idea of yours requires total privacy and cannot wait until after the briefing when we will know the full scope of our latest cataclysm?"
Lady Kei and Representative Shimura opened their mouths simultaneously, her eyes icy cold, his whole face crimson in fury.
Kei was at the meeting, so there would be no need for Shikamaru to brief her on it.
"An astute guess," Kei said, "but no. Merely KEI unpleasantness. Teething issues now that the KEI Master Database is fully armed and operational. To what do we owe the honour of this visit, Hazō?"
I'm mentally filing this away under "things to keep an eye on."
"Peaceful escapism? What about Pilgrim's Trail, then?"

A gentle journey down the Fire Country's main pilgrimage route, vying to see who could collect the most souvenirs, paint the most landscapes, and generally accumulate the most pleasant memories? Perfect.
TIL the Elemental Nations have a G-Rated version of The Oregon Trail.
On reflection, Hazō should have seen it coming from their last 'peaceful game', which had involved taking turns to save up for and buy gem mines, and featured no player interaction to speak of. With pinpoint precision, Kei and Snowflake had purchased only those mines which other players could afford (or reserved them, which generated wildcard tokens with which to expand their range of targets). There being a limit on gems in hand, Hazō and Noburi had spent most of their turns discarding now-useless gems and drawing new ones, only for the sisters to make those useless next.
This is why I am no longer able to play Monopoly with my extended family. Some people just can't understand that creating a housing shortage is a perfectly valid (and supremely effective) strategy....
Hazō sighed. "Changing topics to something that might not drive me to despair, what were you saying about the KEI Master Database?"
Ah yes, redirecting the conversation away from our misery by talking about the reason they are so worn out. How nice of us.
Thus, he was declared Anathema to the Fellowship of the Konoha Enlightenment Initiative, or AFKEI."
I am mentally pronouncing this as "AFK" and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
Speaking of pronunciations, @Velorien, is 'Kei' (as in the name of our sister) pronounced as in 'けい'?
an act of refusing to continue to follow, obey, or recognize a religious faith
huh, good to know
"Ami insisted on the formal designation," Kei said. "She hopes that, in time, such apostates will ally to form a rival organisation hostile to the KEI's leadership and policies, and a shared title would be a useful advantage to offer them until an original group identity crystallises. As ever, her genius is beyond me.
I am missing the logic of this. Entirely.
"As to the ruling itself, formally speaking, no. Informally speaking, Fu is a traitor to the KEI, one who would exploit his downtrodden fellows with the tools intended to uplift them, and anyone associating with him will de facto be aiding and abetting a known criminal. In effect, we have sentenced him to be"—her voice went very quiet—"ostracised."
Sounds like it's quite personal to her.
The KEI's declared enemy was a Gōketsu estate genin. Great. Hazō was now stuck between expelling a man whom he'd promised food, shelter, and eventual adoption, on nothing more than the word of the KEI—which wasn't quite a statement that the KEI's authority trumped his own, but was too close for comfort—and publicly choosing to grant those things to a soon-to-be-infamous thief and traitor.
If we act on this information, we need to confirm it first. "Trust but verify," as my dad used to say when checking to see if 9 year-old me had done his homework.
"Why it's home to a Wakahisa fish breeding specialist," Snowflake said with a wry smile. "We have heard some very disturbing theories, only a few of which are accurate."

"What?" Hazō demanded. "Why would he tell anyone he's one of those?"
MAJOR OPSEC BREACH

If KEI can learn about this, than other, more-hostile groups can as well. We need to immedieately investigate this and determine how this information was leaked, how much is known (and by whom), and what new procedures we can put into place to make sure this doesn't happen again.

"My advice to you if you wish to preserve OPSEC," Snowflake said in tones of perfect seriousness, "is to lean into it as much as possible. Given the rumours about you and Akane, and now Ino as well, few will doubt it when they hear you are exploring yet more new and exciting realms of depravity."

"You realise Ino will kill him?" Kei asked.

"True," Snowflake said. "Stick to the treason."
Remember that time Ino thought board-game nights were Gōketsu tentacle hentai orgies and still went to one? Ah, good times.
"I assumed you did it in awareness that it was in any case only a matter of time," Kei said. "Mari, after all, never so much retired as went private. She has served the Gōketsu in every way that she would otherwise serve Leaf, with the possible exception of assassinations. ANBU, and thus the Hokage, could not help but notice eventually.
We explicitly made Mari's retirement a condition of our Skywalker/Skytower exchange. This deal was made with the Tower. If she want to serve her clan, that's her perogitive, but if she doesn't want to perform soul-crushing, extremely-dangerous missions for Leaf than that's her call.

If the Tower demands her in the field when she doesn't want to go....
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I'm skipping my analysis of Kei talking about Mari because I'm sure that's already been heavily covered and it would take my ages to type out all my thoughts.
 
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Read literally the next eight words in the sentence.
Let me rephrase.

While it is not inconsistent that Hazō (and Kei) were the last to arrive, it was because took care of something right before the meeting. Hazō was not slowed by his cripling injuries/need to use a cane. Hazō did not put his best efforts into arriving as soon as possible, which would have excluded his talk with Kei.

One chapter implies that he was able to arrive at the meeting before almost everyone else. The next implies that his physical injuries forced him to arrive late despite him trying his best to arrive as soon as possible.

Unless.... is this sentence a reference to his injuries forcing him to arrive to the meeting slower than Kei, since they both finished their meeting at the same time? They should have both been right next to the door when they reappeared so even that is a little unbelivable.
 
My picture of it, at least, is that they had their conversation a short distance down the hall instead of literally in front of the Hokage's door. Everyone else arrived and went in while Kei and Hazō were talking, then Kei walked down the hall at normal speed and into the room while Hazō limped in after her.
 
Chapter 461: Quieting

"I'm worried about my boyfriend." The word still carried the wariness of a doe finding a bush too heavily laden with ripe berries: Things too good to be true often weren't. "What kind of dumb stuff?"
I'm terrified of the horrific monstrosity that is what people in the Elemental Nations call a "doe," knowing what I do about what they call "sheep."
He considered continuing. Of trying to find a way to describe what it was like to put brush to paper and trace the cracks of drying Paint. How those brief moments made a noisy brain quiet, of how they were one of the three ways that he knew to render his existence peaceful, and the only one that worked when he was alone.

Explaining all that would be like offering a bookbinder's masterwork to the illiterate, and he strongly suspected that he would be mocked for eternity were he to mention that the other two methods of quieting his brain were to sit silently with either Akane or Ino leaned back against him, his arms around her and the scent of her hair in his nose. Ino smelled of the fresh peaches infused into the water with which she bathed her hair each morning. Akane smelled of the outdoors in whatever season prevailed, and often very faintly of vibrant exercise.
You don't need to explain it to her. We trust her implicitly; we can just show her in our mindscape.

Of course, that's if Hazō actually has a mind that Ino can peer into. It would be hilarious if we try and show her something for a romantic moment and she sees all of u̶̼͇̦͋̀̚s̷̼͌͗̀ behind the curtain. Hmmm....I should totally turn that into an OMAKE. Would anyone want to read that?
"I wouldn't do that to you. It's a collection by Master Tanaka. Tanaka Ryōji, not Tanaka Fumio. His third collection."
ok that got a quiet chuckle out of me
"Mm-hm. And I took Mari with me to the shop and had her arrange them there so that the owner could tell me if she was playing any pranks."
Mari could 100% social the shop owner into helping her with a prank. Or set him up as a plant from the start. Or any number of things. She's just luring you into a false sense of security, Hazō, don't get complacent.
 
Kei was at the meeting, so there would be no need for Shikamaru to brief her on it.
Ami got you. Lady Kei is the Clan Head of the Kei Clan, who is a distinct individual from Nara Kei, the consort of the Nara Clan and one of the coordinators of the KEI.
I am missing the logic of this. Entirely.
Consolidate all the discontents in one place, an organization even, which you could then subvert at your leisure and covertly control, instead of letting these people stew all over the place as a truly-chaotic uncontrollable mass of disaffection.

I assume, anyway.
Remember that time Ino thought board-game nights were Gōketsu tentacle hentai orgies and still went to one? Ah, good times.
I think that was Shiori.
Of course, that's if Hazō actually has a mind that Ino can peer into. It would be hilarious if we try and show her something for a romantic moment and she sees all of u̶̼͇̦͋̀̚s̷̼͌͗̀ behind the curtain. Hmmm....I should totally turn that into an OMAKE. Would anyone want to read that?
I would!
 
Ami got you. Lady Kei is the Clan Head of the Kei Clan, who is a distinct individual from Nara Kei, the consort of the Nara Clan and one of the coordinators of the KEI.
wat
Consolidate all the discontents in one place, an organization even, which you could then subvert at your leisure and covertly control, instead of letting these people stew all over the place as a truly-chaotic uncontrollable mass of disaffection.

I assume, anyway.
oh that makes sense!
I mean, I'm not sure the cost-benefit works out too well on that versus preventing the oposition force from forming at all, but at least there's some logic too it.
 
TIL the Elemental Nations have a G-Rated version of The Oregon Trail.
Strictly speaking, they have an accurately-rated version of Tokaido.

Speaking of pronunciations, @Velorien, is 'Kei' (as in the name of our sister) pronounced as in 'けい'?
Yes.

"Trust but verify," as my dad used to say when checking to see if 9 year-old me had done his homework.
Fun fact: this is actually a Russian rhyming proverb derived from the works of Lenin and Stalin.
 
Fun fact: this is actually a Russian rhyming proverb derived from the works of Lenin and Stalin.
Really?! In the US it's known as the catchphrase of the right wing cowboy president, Ronald Reagan. The guy who supposedly (according to conservatives) destroyed the Soviet Union by spending them into oblivion with various military projects and proxy wars.
 
PSA: We could use some extra eyes.

The QMs decided that we weren't thrilled with the current mechanics for the Frozen Skein Ultimate Technique, so we came up with this. Both of us have signed off on it but it would be good to get some player review before making it official, just in case we missed anything. Comments?



Starting next round, the user receives a (Frozen Skein AB) bonus to initiative.

The user receives the "Flicker of Omniscience" Aspect. Each round, they receive 2x(Frozen Skein AB) tags on it. They may use up to 2+(FS AB) tags on any given roll. Any number of tags may be passed to any teammate(s) with whom the user can communicate (but they are limited to 1 tag per roll as normal).

The user takes 2 mental stress per round. They do not take mental stress from any other source, nor suffer from mental Consequence penalties. However, the technique cannot be manually terminated. The user will continue to take mental stress until they are Taken Out.

When the user is Taken Out, roll 1d10 + 15. This is the number of steps on the time ladder necessary to regain consciousness.

Evaluating some possibilities of what Keiko (Ranged Weapons 40 (AB 5), Athletics 50 (AB 6)) could do with this.

  • Level 1 in FS (1 XP): User gets +1 to initiative and 1 tag. This gives +5 to one attack roll or +6 to a dodge roll.
  • Level 10 (55 XP): +2 to initiative, 4 tags. Can use all the tags on one roll, potentially giving +20 to hit or +24 to dodge. Can also pass the tags to others, giving the entire party a bonus.
  • Level 20 (210 XP): +3 initiative, 6 tags. Can use 5 of them on one roll for +25 to hit (meaning she's rolling jōnin numbers before any other bonus) or +30 to dodge (Kage-level dodging).
  • Level 30 (465 XP): +4 initiative, 8 tags. Can use 6 of them on one roll for overwhelming numbers. (+30 to hit = 70, +36 to dodge = 86)
Ranged Weapons 40 + FS 30 costs 820+465=1285 and allows you to roll 70 once.

RW70 = 2485 when leveled the normal way, so the FS boost is very efficient.

Athletics 60 (a normal jōnin score) = 1830 XP

Under this model, Frozen Skein is a very efficient way to be able to generate one or two high-powered attacks. All else equal, with FS 30 she could get 70-60=10 = 4 shifts + kunai(weapon 1) + attached explosive (weapon 4) = 9 shifts against a jōnin. That's his track + Mild + Medium. Next round she can do the same thing and tag both consequences for an additional 5+5= +10 on the roll, meaning an additional 4 shifts, meaning she explodes him into goo.

She can sustain 3+2+3+4= 12 mental stress before being Taken Out, so she can do the above sequence for 6 rounds. She can also save her rolls for dodging, allowing her to dodge the low end of Kage-level attacks while (e.g.) spreading goo bombs around the battlefield in order to generate tags for other people to use.


The only problem i can find is : wouldn't that mean a Mori Jonin(Or possibly any Thinker clan) would shot up to S-rank rolls using the technique? Assuming (Primary Stats = 60; FS = 50) that would mean...

  • +6 Initiative, 12 Tags. 8 tags for a total of (Primary Stat=60, AB 7) 56 = 60 +56 = 116
That would mean the only reason EJonins are alive is because they never met a Mori above chunin(or if other Thinker clans have similar techniques just any thinker ninja). So that could change the current paragidm of "EJonin and S-rankers are the ones that are so powerful they survive the majority of the enemies" to a game of "Who fights the Thinker".
Even assuming Mori ninjas are simply unwilling to use the techniques except in the gravest of circumstances, to the point that once they reach said moment using it is already useless, the Mori aren't talked as this insane clan of badass whose ninja are capable of mythic feats of warfare such as "I now roll so hard i break the three digits" (in fact, Ami taking point was considered something admirable, at least to Kei).

Let's take for example the 15 vs 3 Battle in Unheard

Another realisation I should have made earlier. There is no place for humanity in war. Only means and ends. Had I made adequate preparations, we could have won. Had I coordinated our forces appropriately, we could have escaped with more than one survivor. Tsunade needed physical contact to kill. With his powerful physique, Kazan could have absorbed a blow, creating an opening for Akagi to use her barrier. Terumi could have exploited the blind spot to attack Jiraiya from an angle with his superior reach, and Jiraiya would be forced to use a direct counter rather than area-of-effect ninjutsu. Orochimaru would have killed Akagi by the time his teammates were free to act again, but Hoshigaki only needed three seconds to trigger his technique. Four dead, eleven escape.

Three years later, I found an option where only Akagi and I needed to die, though it would rely on a certain level of psychological warfare. Alternatively, were I to focus on eliminating any of the Three, a flawless suicide attack on Tsunade would likely have been successful. A case can be made that this would have been a greater contribution to the war than any of us surviving.

Akagi. Terumi. Yari. Kadō. Tsunemori. Kazan. Mana. Yamane. Mori. Hoshigaki. Kimura. Kani. Urahara. Himuro. Would they hate me for what I have made of myself, or hate me for not having done so sooner?

I assume the Sannin weren't yet at their best, at least not yet the Hanzo of the Salamander of their generation, but reasonably scary EJonin/S-rankers(Or alternatively Jonins to Ryuugamine and co being Chuunin).I imagine Mori suddenly becoming a 116+ Ranged/Taijutsu/Something ninja would have quite changed the outcome of the fight. without even talking about the insane levels a Mori EJonin would reach.

Basically it seems a suicide technique that is going to murder anyone up to one step above of the person using it and i don't know much sense a suicide technique that overpowered make sense in a world in which people like Asuma, Anko, Mari regulary goes on the field and return for years on end, with no one being scared of these invicible suicide-ninja capable of annihilating anyone that isn't light-years above their levels.
Of course, i'm writing this fully knowing that:
A) We don't know the stats of a Jonin, Elite Jonin or S-ranker
b) We don't know the techniques the three above could have.

Maybe Asuma/Anko/Mari/other Clan nins have enough shinies that a Mori of their level(Or just below) using the suicide technique isn't a 100% death sentence for them. Or maybe the world make sense and i'm just missing something, just my feedback.
 
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As gaseous molecules enter the zone, or as the zone fades in during casting, they gain or lose energy equal to the temperature delta. As gaseous molecules leave the zone, or as the zone fades out when casting ends and the temperature drifts back to normal, they gain or lose energy opposite to the temperature delta. Liquids and solids are unaffected. (I advise making the border have some width, to avoid instantaneous velocity changes, though it might not matter.)
This would change the current rules. Which do not treat gases differently from solids/liquids.
 
Is Mari going to take Haru's character sheet from us or should we spend on his char sheet with the meta knowledge he's becoming an infiltrator
 
From Discord, as a reminder:

btw, do we know how the Pangolings outpaced the dogs on long distance or how they reached them throught the Hyena Clan?
Panda was with them, after all, and he's her closest [Kei] summon
 
"Receive live training on how one conducts a romantic date," Snowflake said as if it was obvious. "The fact is, nobody in the Snowflakesphere has much knowledge of conventional dating at all. Kei's romantic success is inversely proportional to her adherence to convention.["]
Does this mean Snowflake won the vote? Or is she being sneaky and using it behind Kei's back? >:3
 
When did the pangolins outpace the dogs? I don't remember that.
"The territory of the Pangolin Clan is a thousand miles away on the other side of the Hyena Clan and a major mountain range. There are four of these ambassadors and they were dispatched two weeks ago at the request of your sister. This is a demonstration of military power. They are saying that they can go where they want, far faster than we can move, and nothing and no one can stop them."
 
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