Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
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- He/Him
Hazo!Pilot has a lot more faith in the Banshee/Youthenizer's ability to utterly wreck six Lions than I did, so I need to update my estimation of them in close proximity.
Welp. That's, uh. Gonna get noticed. Question is, how fast?
Hey, lookit our boy learn leadership!
And, how about 'organs still inside body' for a bright side?
Have they not been eating our food until now? Is that a cultural thing, where hunting is important, or is our food weird, or...?
Also, Cangue warms up to us! Winner!
We should be able to come up with a use for those Lions. Good false flag, at any rate, and maybe an honourable burial if we make positive contact. Pity they're all dead, but, can't have everything.
I'm sure he's being polite and he's only going to have a little bit. After all, this is an unknown drug and the other Dogs have made their stance on it pretty clear. Besides, he saw it in action with the Bears.
That's definitely not marijuana - that'd be a ways away. What the hell is this stuff? Mellow indeed.
Also, I think that I might retract the 'Hazo is maturing nicely' end of things. At the very least, I imagine this is going to be educational.
Honestly, this isn't bad for us from a leadership perspective. It'll humanize (caninze?) us, and we needed the break for real.
Summoning technique: mellow smoke puppy pile!
This is not going to be good. This is not going to be good.
It is very, very lucky that this didn't go very badly. 20 hours with a very obvious origin and six missing operatives. Maybe this is an indicator that the Cats have a healthy respect for fire.
I can hear this passage in my head and it is everything. It's always great when dialogue does everything you need.
And now we're going with a fire-based plan. I hope everyone is happy. God willing, we're going to be able to tell when we're out of Cat.
...how are we going to tell when we're out of Cat? Maybe we'll re-evaluate at the coast? I'd like our introduction to their neighbours not to be, y'know. Death and destruction.
Bless Cannai, bless Akane, and bless the kami. This was a good-albeit-terrifying bonding experience for our pack and yet another plan I wrote which didn't end in our funeral.
- Location
- Yes.
The color of the sky will change.
So how do we get the half bonus?
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Fixed. My bad, and thanks for the catch.
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
SLEEPY BRAIN: "You know, they say that you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, but honey was an extreme luxury only a few centuries ago. This is likely so in MfD, too. One could expand on that phrase to say that kinder methods ("honey") are easier to use than harsher methods ("vinegar") when you're in a great spot financially, or when you are otherwise in an advantageous position...
SLEEPY BRAIN: "I wonder what Hazou would think about the idea that, often enough, cruel/harsh methods may simply be because a kinder one is simply too costly for the one who is doing the acting. It is wrong to judge the deeds of a person when you, yourself, lounge atop a silver spire...
SLEEPY BRAIN: "Or, to put it more succinctly: 'before you judge someone, remember that all the people in this world haven't had the advantages you've had.' "
ME: "Okay, that's a fair point, but consider this: I need to do homework."
SLEEPY BRAIN: "I wonder what Hazou would think about the idea that, often enough, cruel/harsh methods may simply be because a kinder one is simply too costly for the one who is doing the acting. It is wrong to judge the deeds of a person when you, yourself, lounge atop a silver spire...
SLEEPY BRAIN: "Or, to put it more succinctly: 'before you judge someone, remember that all the people in this world haven't had the advantages you've had.' "
ME: "Okay, that's a fair point, but consider this: I need to do homework."
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@eaglejarl @Velorien can we spend xp on the Rocket Boot stunts? Also do we get to know what the bonus (Kagome's AB) is numerically?
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wait wut is that a actual thing? how does that even work?
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- USA
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- He/Him
Brilliantly. :>
Yes, it's a thing. Every Clan's territory has a unique color overhead.
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- London
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- He/Him/They/Them
And they change to match when areas are conquered, right?
- Location
- Yes.
One wonders at which point the Seventh Path considers an area conquered.
Can we start a Dog colony?
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Remember when Emma told us not to make maps of the seventh pass? I wonder if we made a good enough map and then altered it to say it was dog territory it would become dog territory
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- Book Fort
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I wonder if the Seventh Path is always subtly changing, like chakra levels. We've been told that chakra pools vary minutely from day to day, and are dependent upon a massive slog of factors. The changes in chakra levels are minute enough that someone can go "I'm around this level" but pinning down an "exact" amount of chakra is damn near impossible (in-story, at least).
This makes me wonder if the 7th Path is similar, in that land is always changing. Maybe one hill is a little taller a certain day, or a river just a tad wider. A prairie just a tad smaller than yesterday, and were those ferns always on this side of the meadow?
What if maps on the Seventh Path aren't "banned" so much as they are "functionally useless beyond the broadest of strokes?"
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Do we have any idea of the sky has changed colour in formerly-Condor-now-Pangolin areas?
I still think a wildfire is a bad 'how do you do'. Hopefully we can see it coming early enough to stop burning things before we get there.
...although we have no reason to suppose they'll be any friendlier than the Cats. Hopefully Cannibisu has a plan for first contact. If not, I want a replacement diplomat.
- Location
- USA
[X] (Isan) No one wins a Shell Game
Word Count: 240
Feedback appreciated!
Reposting plan from last time. The core idea is to not risk Keiko's flesh body while we're still not sure what the High Priest's strategy will be with us. If he wants to play the political game, then we can do so in the future. However:
The introductory prep step of isolating individual Isanites and social-hammering them is just a pet idea of mine. Since there's only 80 or so of their ninja, working them one-by-one is going to add up real fast.
Word Count: 240
- Preparation
- Identify individuals (preferably ninja) who can be swayed to our side.
- Scout feasibility by sharing Leaf culture and art that conforms with Isan norms?
- Isolate them in our group under the pretense of meeting the Pangolins.
- Pressure them with our collective social prowess into being allies and giving us information to build detailed profiles on what the major actors have been doing.
- Do what social prep/flowcharting is necessary
- The Dinner
- Keiko, if there's a risk of bloodshed, it might make sense for Snowflake to go if she's willing.
- Without FS, Snowflake might also do better at improvising when the High Priest inevitably throws a curveball
- Snowflake can check in periodically by making and dispelling clones. Noburi can fill up more Keiko clone and dispel them so Snowflake can have enough chakra.
- More cheaply (but once only), can dispel a Pangolin (Pandaa?) and Keiko can resummon.
- This breaks OPSEC on SC communication -- hide from Yuno?
- Bring Pangolins and see what the High Priest wants.
- Bring Pangolin cuisine (spicy bugs?) to throw them off balance.
- Don't commit to any deals, but follow the general playbook to try to open things up to Leaf.
- Be wary of genjutsu -- who knows how much of the High Priest's charisma is natural?
- Explain the Battle of the Gods and that the world nearly ended without Isan noticing. Ignoring the broader world can be dangerous for Isan, as threats exist whether you notice them or not.
- Keiko, if there's a risk of bloodshed, it might make sense for Snowflake to go if she's willing.
Feedback appreciated!
Reposting plan from last time. The core idea is to not risk Keiko's flesh body while we're still not sure what the High Priest's strategy will be with us. If he wants to play the political game, then we can do so in the future. However:
- Asking for Keiko to come alone is a big ask -- we get public perception credit by acquiescing with no signs of foul play
- Him attacking Keiko at this point might still be worth it for him, to remove the Pangolin Summoner and keep Isan, but:
- Keiko will appear immortal when she just poofs.
- The Pangolins will stick around, which should be unexpected. And painful.
- We can make him lose massive reputation in Isan.
- There'll be fewer opportunities for Keiko to be alone without backup in the future, so this won't have to be part of our normal playbook.
The introductory prep step of isolating individual Isanites and social-hammering them is just a pet idea of mine. Since there's only 80 or so of their ninja, working them one-by-one is going to add up real fast.
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- Book Fort
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I like this. We've demonstrated the "carrot" when it comes to allying with Leaf, and now it's time for the "stick" as to what could happen if they don't.
May want to throw in something along the lines of "list examples of Leaf art/literature that proves them to be civilized/cultured/not-barbarians by Isan Standards (check with Yuno, Noburi, and Mari for verification regarding examples." This shows that Leaf is a part worthy of respect in addition to fear. Isan is terrified of the outside world and likely thinks of Leaf in terms of "social other" and "not a philosophical person, worthy of moral consideration, but we're forced to dance to their tune because of their military might." This addition tries to weaken that perception.
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] (Isan) No one wins a Shell Game
Q: where is Noburi getting the chakra required to spit out multiple SCs? Mari/Yuno/his own reserves?
Isolating and working individuals seems smart. I worry that they'll get wise after we do it to a few folks, though, and they'll be pariahs.
Q: where is Noburi getting the chakra required to spit out multiple SCs? Mari/Yuno/his own reserves?
Isolating and working individuals seems smart. I worry that they'll get wise after we do it to a few folks, though, and they'll be pariahs.
@Paperclipped I don't think we should send Snowflake, Shadow Clone is a big Leaf secret and if Snowflake gets popped it's going to be a bad time. It would also be the perfect excuse for the High Priest to declare Keiko some sort of evil spirit and throw us out.
I do think we should bring the Pangolin Battle Squad (he did ask for the Pangolin Summoner), and, if possible in any way, Mari. We could use the excuse that she's a trusted advisor or Keiko's plus one or something. Mari is going to be able to see the social attacks coming and (hopefully) defuse them before the High Priest can kick us out. I'm much less confident in Keiko's ability to do so. This is Mari's element and I think we should use her.
I do think we should bring the Pangolin Battle Squad (he did ask for the Pangolin Summoner), and, if possible in any way, Mari. We could use the excuse that she's a trusted advisor or Keiko's plus one or something. Mari is going to be able to see the social attacks coming and (hopefully) defuse them before the High Priest can kick us out. I'm much less confident in Keiko's ability to do so. This is Mari's element and I think we should use her.
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Here is previous Isan plan, for the record
[X] (Isan) We Came, We Saw, We Keiko'd
Word Count: 279
[X] (Isan) We Came, We Saw, We Keiko'd
Word Count: 279
- Before the meeting
- Have Mari and Yuno solidify an alliance with the Kannagi and Yoshida for intel, and get them to be pro-Leaf if she can manage it
- Have Mari build a profile of the High Priest in advance
- Tap Jiraiya's old contact for help
- High Priest
- Prep with Mari and Yuno for obvious traps, etc.
- Only the Pangolin Summoner was invited to meet him. If Mari can come, send her too as the Summoner's advisor.
- At the very least, Keiko should bring her more socially adept summons with her for support (perhaps the drill instructor?)
- Have them prep with Keiko and Mari in advance for what the conversation might look like, and how they can indirectly back up Keiko
- Do not try to intimidate the High Priest, but don't simply bend the knee either. You're there to establish a mutually beneficial alliance.
- Keiko, do not commit to any deals during this meeting. However, make it clear how much the High Priest has to gain from this alliance.
- New luxuries, massive political importance with Leaf, new jutsu that can boost agriculture and financial capability, medical treatment, more people to spread his religion to and more are all possible for the High Priest from this alliance, and Leaf is his best chance at these things. Keiko herself could lend even more credibility to his status, should the alliance go forward.
- Be vague enough not to reveal secrets but specific enough to be tantalizing
- New luxuries, massive political importance with Leaf, new jutsu that can boost agriculture and financial capability, medical treatment, more people to spread his religion to and more are all possible for the High Priest from this alliance, and Leaf is his best chance at these things. Keiko herself could lend even more credibility to his status, should the alliance go forward.
- Also detail the Battle of the Gods and how close the world came to ending without Isan noticing. More threats will come and Isan can't afford to look the other way, or it could endanger them too.
- At the very least, Keiko should bring her more socially adept summons with her for support (perhaps the drill instructor?)
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
If we bring a (huge) pangolin, can that (potentially) force a change of setting?
I think if Yuno approves, we should really bring a sampling of Pangolin cuisine. I'm sure Panda would love to facilitate cultural exchange.
There's a line where we're obviously rude instead of playing the social game, but I think that we should find that line through fearless experimentation.
I think if Yuno approves, we should really bring a sampling of Pangolin cuisine. I'm sure Panda would love to facilitate cultural exchange.
There's a line where we're obviously rude instead of playing the social game, but I think that we should find that line through fearless experimentation.
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- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
SC Math for Chapter 417 (Applied):
@eaglejarl, @Velorien
With Hazou and Keiko off on mission, only Akane continues to FOOM. By the SOP, she is training with 5 clones. With 4 base XP, the SC payouts are:
@eaglejarl, @Velorien
With Hazou and Keiko off on mission, only Akane continues to FOOM. By the SOP, she is training with 5 clones. With 4 base XP, the SC payouts are:
- Akane: +2.0 XP (4 x0.5)
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