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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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They got version 2.
What now?
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I think the idea was to make a version of 5SB that makes use of fewer supporting seals, thus 'weakening' the 5SB'd object enough for it to move?
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Oh right, that was another idea that was thrown out in the thread at some point, my mistake.
As for your idea, I think the idea was thrown out as well, but discussion around it stopped for whatever reason.
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So a ninja's repertoire of techniques/seals are highly personal things, right? And the ones that someone's invented are even more so. They're the kinda things that are only passed down from Parent to Child or from Master to Favored Apprentice. Is Kagome really okay with us turning over some of those seals to the Leaf? I mean, I know that Kagome isn't normal by most EN metrics --still adore him, though --and that his worldview is basically "Anything for Family" but we should probably doublecheck with him and make sure he's comfortable with it. Kagome (begrudgingly) respected Jiraiya and he likes Leaf well enough for what it can provide his family, but Kagome's still seriously out of his comfort zone and might need some gentle reassurance that Leaf won't steal all his stuff. I mean, I'm pretty sure that Asuma's done a damned good job of that --seriously, get that man a gift --but it might be worth a scene, just to be safe.
Or maybe that's already happened and my headache is making it hard to remember. Or maybe Kagome's fine and (relatively) settled (though after whatever's happened in his past, I'd say his loyalty is more to "people" rather than "place"). I mean, he has calmed down a lot in the past dozen or so chapters. And his POV chapters (particularly with Honoka) showcase a depth of thoughtful consideration that, although manic, express a uniquely considerate man who's been warped by the world he lives in. It makes me wonder about his past. About the depths of his personality. Maybe Kagome was too compassionate for the traditional ninja lifestyle, but when his village --whatever village it might have been --discovered that Kagome had a knack for Sealing, they funneled him that way.
...And now I just remembered how his former village and his former peers treated a much-younger Kagome. And now I'm a little teary-eyed over poor Kagome who was just different enough to make connecting with others difficult, who was just different enough to find social situations strange and alien in its complexity. A younger Kagome who might have still cared enough to be hurt by their rejection. And Kagome's currently young enough that his skill is pretty significant, especially considering he spent an unknown amount of years in isolation --his skills... well, if not stagnating, then definitely not flourishing. So Kagome, in his youth, must have hyper-focused on his studies. Because as strange and esoteric as Sealing is, it makes more sense than people who never seem to follow their own rules. It makes more sense than an authority that abides by the casual cruelty of the strong.
Maybe it's my being stressed out by college coursework. Maybe it's my organic chemistry-induced headache. But I have a lot of feelings about Kagome right now and I'm very glad that we found him. Hazou needs to give that man a big fucking hug before he leaves on the mission. Kagome deserves it and those two haven't spent nearly enough time together as they should be.
Edit: Given the drastic character change we see in Kagome throughout the story so far (fuck yeah, you go @Velorien and @eaglejarl!), if a jonin's aura can change, I'd say that Kagome's already has. It'd probably changed from a Mad-Eye Moody-esque "The Constant Variable in Sleepless Vigilance Against an Ever-Changing, Ever-Hostile World" to something more... steadfast. Something more... well, if not stable, then at least less volatile. Something like... "The Constant Variable's Weapons at the Ready, a Watchful Vanguard for His Family, a Sturdy Shield Against the Cold of the Out."
Or maybe that's already happened and my headache is making it hard to remember. Or maybe Kagome's fine and (relatively) settled (though after whatever's happened in his past, I'd say his loyalty is more to "people" rather than "place"). I mean, he has calmed down a lot in the past dozen or so chapters. And his POV chapters (particularly with Honoka) showcase a depth of thoughtful consideration that, although manic, express a uniquely considerate man who's been warped by the world he lives in. It makes me wonder about his past. About the depths of his personality. Maybe Kagome was too compassionate for the traditional ninja lifestyle, but when his village --whatever village it might have been --discovered that Kagome had a knack for Sealing, they funneled him that way.
...And now I just remembered how his former village and his former peers treated a much-younger Kagome. And now I'm a little teary-eyed over poor Kagome who was just different enough to make connecting with others difficult, who was just different enough to find social situations strange and alien in its complexity. A younger Kagome who might have still cared enough to be hurt by their rejection. And Kagome's currently young enough that his skill is pretty significant, especially considering he spent an unknown amount of years in isolation --his skills... well, if not stagnating, then definitely not flourishing. So Kagome, in his youth, must have hyper-focused on his studies. Because as strange and esoteric as Sealing is, it makes more sense than people who never seem to follow their own rules. It makes more sense than an authority that abides by the casual cruelty of the strong.
Maybe it's my being stressed out by college coursework. Maybe it's my organic chemistry-induced headache. But I have a lot of feelings about Kagome right now and I'm very glad that we found him. Hazou needs to give that man a big fucking hug before he leaves on the mission. Kagome deserves it and those two haven't spent nearly enough time together as they should be.
Edit: Given the drastic character change we see in Kagome throughout the story so far (fuck yeah, you go @Velorien and @eaglejarl!), if a jonin's aura can change, I'd say that Kagome's already has. It'd probably changed from a Mad-Eye Moody-esque "The Constant Variable in Sleepless Vigilance Against an Ever-Changing, Ever-Hostile World" to something more... steadfast. Something more... well, if not stable, then at least less volatile. Something like... "The Constant Variable's Weapons at the Ready, a Watchful Vanguard for His Family, a Sturdy Shield Against the Cold of the Out."
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He might have never wanted to "flex" it. Kagome's obviously faced all types of abuse in the past, maybe he was exposed to jonin-auras regularly and that's made him hyper-aware of his own? Or maybe, for all his hair-trigger, he's never been pushed far enough to use it. Or maybe it's benign enough that Hazou wouldn't notice it. Or maybe Hazou's grown accustomed to it that it's like idle background noise at this point. We know so little about Kagome's past and so little about the metaphysics of chakra that it could be any of these.
Or it could be that, as you suggest, Kagome simply doesn't have one. I don't think we've ever seen Kagome use a non-Sealing chakra technique --beyond the assumed basics of chakra enhancement and chakra-walking techniques. This would imply that Kagome's chakra pool is relatively low for a ninja of his age (or in general, really). This could lead into the possibility that, if chakra capacity is a factor in the "volume" of a jonin's aura, then maybe if Kagome got his chakra pool up, his aura would be more "noticeable." Jiraiya did mention, after all, that while raw power is certainly a factor in a jonin's aura, it was more due to them being broken in a sufficient degree or in a specific way. And that, because of this, no jonin is stable --and that's why it was so remarkable that already Ami has one at her age. I would argue that if Kagome isn't already at that point, then a lifetime of being a Universal Constant and being forced to witness the universal changes that occur as a result of Outer Mishaps or Sealing Failures would quickly bring him to that point. So then it would be a simple matter of training his chakra pool to a point where his aura's "volume" is more "noticeable."
Or maybe Kagome, for all his apparent instability, is stable enough not to have developed a jonin aura. Which is an interesting notion in its own right, if only for the implications that has on both Kagome's character and for the metaphysics of chakra.
Edit: I'm probably putting too much thought into this.
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Or it could just be that he's not a jounin.
Or it could be that he's not a jonin. We've never really seen Kagome cut loose, so I tentatively place him between "special jonin" and "jonin" in terms of ability. But considering that he's never unarmed and always carrying --bare minimum --a few hundred seals, I put him in "jonin" threat level... because we don't know what kind of deadman's switch Kagome has on/in him. Seriously, the thought of what he might've rigged to himself in the event of his death is a little frightening...
I mean... I guess? Not really sure what it would do other than allow us to write really small seals and look at the night sky with a clearer eye? I'm not actively against the idea, though I would at least like to wait until we get the skygliders solved. Or the Orion Drive we seem to be mulling over. Those seem more... productive. Or at least more profitable in terms of story/lore development.
Though I could be convinced, I suppose? I'm pretty sure the initial "telescope fever" the hivemind apparently went through was well before I stumbled into hivemind-citizenship.
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I believe the reasoning is that telescopes help a lot with scouting and combine really well with skywalkers/Skytowers. Also, genjutsu is line of sight, so if you can see an enemy's eyes from a mile away through a telescope you may be able to cast a genjutsu on them. Illusion sniping.
A modern hang glider have 12:1 ratio. That is, for every 12 meters traveled, we lost one meter in altitude. Also, a glider can go faster than a ninja without any propulsion.
A Lilienthal glider apparently have a glide ratio of 4:1. For every four feet traveled, one feet of altitude is lost.
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Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
The true reason is so that we can finally recruit the Telescope Merchant to the party, thereby fulfilling Prophecies Moste Ancient and increasing our powerlevels with the XP gained from closing off this holy quest.
Incidentally, can we hunt down the Telescope Merchant on the way to Mist or on the way back? Telescopes seem like theyd be a good submission, since pairing them with Skytowers gives reallllly good far range scouting....
Every clan have at least one telescope. However, it is apparently expensive, and Konoha don't have a native source. Like I kept saying, we should really recruit the telescope merchant and his family.
Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
This would require we find him first. Are you up to the task?
Noumero
Omit Needless Words
Well, we're going outside the village soon; might as well.
Last we saw, Jiraiya sent him on a long journey to collect some unspecified "samples", which would make him difficult to find... but not all is lost!
He's leaving Keiko's Fan Clubs in his wake. Tracking him down is as easy as mapping them out, then extrapolating his path.
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Perhaps this is the real reason Keiko, Naruto, and Ami left on that mission. Not to hunt down and kill the Condor Summoner, but to hunt down and kill the founder of the many Keiko Fan Clubs.
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Grumble, grumble.
Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
Aren't you eager to write the scene where our engineers have to redo all the math because they're using the wrong lord's foot, and have to take Hazou's measurements?
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- London
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Must suck to have that job when you work for the Akimichi clan.
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Could be worse. For those Americans of us in the hivemind, we could've translated it to units of: acres, pizzas, inches, spinal vertebrae, miles, coffee mugs, or Declarations of Independance. We have so many informal units of measurement that we could've used, it's a miracle that only two "official" ones were mentioned!
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- The Void
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Though I feel you in a general way in this instance you don't have that much to complain about. Glide ratio is a dimensionless unit
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Grumble, grumble