Jello_Raptor
(Confirmed Jelly)
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- Left of Center
I'm not saying use it for the central setup, use it for the walls you kawarimi to and then hide behind.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
I'm not saying use it for the central setup, use it for the walls you kawarimi to and then hide behind.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
It appeals to me on a visceral level to not actually kill the Aida and Inoue goons that come after us; we'll have successfully pulled a technical pacifist run of this village if we do so. What better way to show our superiority to these savages than the luxury of mercy?
e: I mean, assuming they don't trip all of our traps. They have it coming to them in that case, then they're just buffoons and we can't be held reasonably accountable.
e2: Also, the look on the Aida and Inoue heads faces when they get their goons dumped in front of them tied up or whatever will be just brilliant.
e: I mean, assuming they don't trip all of our traps. They have it coming to them in that case, then they're just buffoons and we can't be held reasonably accountable.
e2: Also, the look on the Aida and Inoue heads faces when they get their goons dumped in front of them tied up or whatever will be just brilliant.
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Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
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[X] Dig a Tunnel
-[X] have Kagome make a seal(s) for slicing away sections of rock and sealing them away. Use this to dig a tunnel out of the cave.
-[X] have Kagome make a seal(s) for slicing away sections of rock and sealing them away. Use this to dig a tunnel out of the cave.
- Location
- how about no
I think we need to at least make an effort to try to talk out our issues with the Aida and Inoue as well as Rindo and Shusuke, just to be sure we know what their plans are.
Of course, we should meet in a public-ish location so that no one is in earshot of our conversation(s), but close enough so that if anyone tries to stab us other people will be able to see what is going on.
I'm not sure what we could offer him, but opening any dialogue with Rindo is better than none. Maybe we could make animal pens for him out of MEW? It really depends on what his duties, as the head of the beastmasters, are. If it involve the tapirs, we might be out of luck, but ya never know until you try.
Depending on how Mechanical Aptitude actually works, we might be able to have more fruitful discussions with Shusuke, especially since he seems to have no real self-motivation of his own (his cousin Rinko tells him how to vote). Shusuke's attitude may be a diversion though; we haven't had a chance to test him with Hazou's deception yet.
The Inoue will definitely be the toughest clan to crack, in my opinion. "Speak for the ancestors" could mean any number of things, from organized ancestor worship, to official mausoleum caretakers, to "people who have techniques to speak with the dead" (only included because we have no idea if this is possible or not in this universe; seances could be a real thing on this planet).
Not sure if we need to talk with the Murasaki, but if we have time we should try to win him over too. His healing techniques might be shit compared to Noburi's, but he was still important enough to warrant a candidacy to the elder council. Maybe his clan once had medical techniques, but they were lost to time? Maybe they have an aptitude for medical jutsu? Never know until we talk with them.
In the wonderful world of politics, there is no shame in hedging your bets; in fact, it's expected after a certain point. If Takahashi throws a hissy fit over us talking with the other clan elders, just say that we want to "get to know the neighbors". *wink wink, nudge nudge*
Of course, we should meet in a public-ish location so that no one is in earshot of our conversation(s), but close enough so that if anyone tries to stab us other people will be able to see what is going on.
I'm not sure what we could offer him, but opening any dialogue with Rindo is better than none. Maybe we could make animal pens for him out of MEW? It really depends on what his duties, as the head of the beastmasters, are. If it involve the tapirs, we might be out of luck, but ya never know until you try.
Depending on how Mechanical Aptitude actually works, we might be able to have more fruitful discussions with Shusuke, especially since he seems to have no real self-motivation of his own (his cousin Rinko tells him how to vote). Shusuke's attitude may be a diversion though; we haven't had a chance to test him with Hazou's deception yet.
The Inoue will definitely be the toughest clan to crack, in my opinion. "Speak for the ancestors" could mean any number of things, from organized ancestor worship, to official mausoleum caretakers, to "people who have techniques to speak with the dead" (only included because we have no idea if this is possible or not in this universe; seances could be a real thing on this planet).
Not sure if we need to talk with the Murasaki, but if we have time we should try to win him over too. His healing techniques might be shit compared to Noburi's, but he was still important enough to warrant a candidacy to the elder council. Maybe his clan once had medical techniques, but they were lost to time? Maybe they have an aptitude for medical jutsu? Never know until we talk with them.
In the wonderful world of politics, there is no shame in hedging your bets; in fact, it's expected after a certain point. If Takahashi throws a hissy fit over us talking with the other clan elders, just say that we want to "get to know the neighbors". *wink wink, nudge nudge*
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Stop reading the gorram story notes!
- Location
- how about no
Now that I think about it, how do we know that Takahashi isn't planning on just having us inadvertently destroy the scroll?
If he really wants the scroll gone, why not setup us missing-nin as scapegoats to take the blame? The scroll would be gone permanently, the whole village would want us dead, and he would be able to separate us to some degree before we could defend ourselves.
Kannagi already pulled a fast one on us, can we please not fall for the same "I promise to do this, but when the moment comes, psych!" trick twice? These people are ninja leaders; lying is one of the most important things they do. We need assurances other than mutually assured destruction if we want to get the scroll without damaging it, losing it amongst the rubble, etc. We still haven't seen the scroll for ourselves; it might not be in the shrine at all. There is too much we don't know to go through with such a rushed scheme. I'd rather not piss off the villagers than risk everything now on a chance at the scroll when we can go after it later in a much safer manner.
If he really wants the scroll gone, why not setup us missing-nin as scapegoats to take the blame? The scroll would be gone permanently, the whole village would want us dead, and he would be able to separate us to some degree before we could defend ourselves.
Kannagi already pulled a fast one on us, can we please not fall for the same "I promise to do this, but when the moment comes, psych!" trick twice? These people are ninja leaders; lying is one of the most important things they do. We need assurances other than mutually assured destruction if we want to get the scroll without damaging it, losing it amongst the rubble, etc. We still haven't seen the scroll for ourselves; it might not be in the shrine at all. There is too much we don't know to go through with such a rushed scheme. I'd rather not piss off the villagers than risk everything now on a chance at the scroll when we can go after it later in a much safer manner.
[evil] Genocide Run
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
There has never been a more appropriate person to say this to:
If you keep going the way you are now, you're gonna have a bad time.
*checks post to see if I put 'X' instead of 'evil' by mistake*
*sees that I didn't*
*frowns in confusion*
...
Wait is that something Sans says to the fallen human when you do the genocide run? I actually don't know because I could never bring myself to do anything other than pacifist.
Edit: I know, I know, I'm a disgrace to [evil]...
*sees that I didn't*
*frowns in confusion*
...
Wait is that something Sans says to the fallen human when you do the genocide run? I actually don't know because I could never bring myself to do anything other than pacifist.
Edit: I know, I know, I'm a disgrace to [evil]...
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- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
That's right. To be honest, I ended up watching an LP as well. It took weeks of evil afterwards before I could truly feel unclean again.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Alright, so could you give me a plaintext literal interpretation of that? It kinda lost me after a bit.
- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
[X] Training Noburi: Just What the Doctor Ordered
On that note, I really don't like Keiko being involved in some Chosen One prophecy when we have no clue what that even means in their religion. The fact that Takahashi is willing to have us disrupt their traditions without telling us what it is exactly that we are disrupting and how really scares me. For all we know Keiko would replace the scroll as the village's holy artifact, or she will be expected to lead them to glory and conquest and Takahashi isn't telling us so that we can't exploit that but instead leave and irrevocably prove the religion as false or something. That at least would fit perfectly with his ant analogy.
Whatever we do, we really really should find out more about their religion. Yuno may be a source of it. After all it is only logical that her future husband wants to know about it and she would be sympathetic with his plight of being shunned without a chance to remedy that.And after that religious reasons could be used to break off the engagement if what we learned makes that somehow feasable.
Assuming he cares about the village not being blown up and/or doesn't have contingency plans at the ready. It seems that he is fine with two of the most prominent families and everyone who seriously follows the official religion running into us like lemmings. If he thinks that half the village could survive us and that his own clan can avoid most casualties then he may well be planning exactly this kind of shitstorm.
On that note, I really don't like Keiko being involved in some Chosen One prophecy when we have no clue what that even means in their religion. The fact that Takahashi is willing to have us disrupt their traditions without telling us what it is exactly that we are disrupting and how really scares me. For all we know Keiko would replace the scroll as the village's holy artifact, or she will be expected to lead them to glory and conquest and Takahashi isn't telling us so that we can't exploit that but instead leave and irrevocably prove the religion as false or something. That at least would fit perfectly with his ant analogy.
Whatever we do, we really really should find out more about their religion. Yuno may be a source of it. After all it is only logical that her future husband wants to know about it and she would be sympathetic with his plight of being shunned without a chance to remedy that.And after that religious reasons could be used to break off the engagement if what we learned makes that somehow feasable.
Let's not do that. Bragging about how we infiltrated an isolated community that was hoping for a brighter future with the malevolent intent of selling them out to "the Man" doesn't seem like the right call in this environment.
Sure we do. Explosive seals to blast ourselves free and forcefield seals plus MEW to not get killed while doing so.
Typo: Should be "as if he'd".
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Oh cool, I'm not the only one here who likes that game. Not gonna lie, it's kinda affected my approach to stuff in this quest (and life)
...Damn good music (and fanmusic) too.
Well, I realize this is kind of taking the easy way out, but we could ask Mari if she still thinks he's (mostly) above level on this plan of his. I mean, obviously there's more to it, but we don't really care as long as the part about "we get summoning scroll and leave in one piece" is true, do we?
- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
I'm pretty sure Mari would tell us if she thought following along was a bad idea. Right?
If we've given up on any "Village Conquest" type aspirations to the point where we wouldn't even go for it if one of ours turns out to be The Chosen Messiah That Is To Be Obeyed Without Question or something then we don't really care. I do remember most previous plans having some kind of long-term goals relating to the village though so I guess it's up to a vote?
PM me a link?
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Doing a favor for someone who will be in a politically advantageous position doesn't sound bad toward that end. We might not have direct control over it... but at the same time, isn't that something Mari spoke to us about?
e: I just remembered a question I had. Did we ever get an answer on if Noburi's water clones could sustain themselves with Vampiric Dew?
e2: If it's an issue of chakra nature, could Noburi refuel them or overfuel them by channeling water chakra for them to drain? Obviously it's not quite as good, and doesn't let us go FOOM, but...
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I think it would be useful if we could get one of Jiraiya's people to teach Noburi Water Release: Starch Syrup Capturing Field.
It was invented by Izumo, but clearly he taught it to everyone he ever met, because Itachi knows it, as does a bijuu on the other side of the elemental nations, and the toads know a derived jutsu. So Jiraiya shouldn't have difficulty finding a leaf nin who can teach us.
It was invented by Izumo, but clearly he taught it to everyone he ever met, because Itachi knows it, as does a bijuu on the other side of the elemental nations, and the toads know a derived jutsu. So Jiraiya shouldn't have difficulty finding a leaf nin who can teach us.
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Clones cannot benefit from Bloodline Limits.
- Location
- Yes.
Inoue already knows that jutsu, or a Water jutsu similar enough to it that it's effectively the same. It was listed in that chart the GMs gave us a while ago.
Really? Brilliant. Then he can get his first level right now.
[X] Training Noburi: High Sugar Level
Water Whip 14 [14/16]
Syrup Trap 1 [14.5/16]
Medic Fund +1 [15.5/16]
Another water jutsu 1 if we can't bank half XP (Noburi's choice between the jutsu Mari actually knows and is willing to teach) [16/16]
Edit: Can we bank half XP points? Can we put them in funds?
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Link to the chart?
- Location
- how about no
The spoiler below contains what I intended, but if you feel a bit lost that doesn't necessarily mean you yourself are at fault. The analogy itself is quite long and I had to take multiple breaks while composing it. If you, or anyone else reading it, could give me a quick, unbiased (by what I'm going to list as my intentions) gut reaction about what you feel works or doesn't work that would be extremely helpful for me as a writer. There are no wrong answers; every interpretation is simply another perspective and I will not criticize anyone for voicing their thoughts. A's are for effort and well thought out explanations, not simply agreeing with and parroting the author; at least, in my opinion.
Paragraph 1: necessary setup/pleasantries, but more importantly an undertone of "we heard your explanation for your actions when you talked about ants, here is our reply in a similar fashion."
Paragraph 2: "where we come from" = outside world. "tide pools" = intentionally vague at this point, could be construed as villages, villages like Hidden Mountain that want to stay secret, or simply civilizations in general. "Water" = necessary components for supporting village life, with a heavy undertone of secrecy for security as well. "storms" = wars that uproot populations of people like the villagers' ancestors into "dry holes" = places where humans normally wouldn't live, but special circumstances, like war, make it appealing and feasible.
Paragraphs 2+3: Since the "crabs" = people like the villagers ancestors, being in a "tide pool" sequesters them from their "natural predators" = strong enemy ninja and/or bandits. Without anyone disrupting them, they can live as they please in almost complete safety.
Paragraphs 3+4: "unforgiving sun" = unstoppable passage of time, the crabs themselves reproducing and lack of other events to occupy inquisitive explorers means that the "water" in the "tide pools" eventually disappears. The "crabs" can go without "water" for a short amount of time in that they can go without secrecy and some basic necessities for a short time, but they have to return to the "water" if they want to stay alive.
Paragraph 5: "fought amongst themselves" = village politics' futility; there is nothing the crabs can do to stop the sun from drying up the pool, but they can limit their numbers through "cannibalizing" = inhumane ways, to delay the effects of the sun on their population. "seagulls" = intentionally vague, mostly as a catch all for antagonists the crabs have no way to defend against, be it overwhelming chakra monsters, enemy ninja, etc. Once enough of the "water" (secrecy and/or necessities for life), is gone, flocks of gulls can swoop down to prey upon the whole population of crabs and there is nothing the crabs can do to save themselves. Sometimes the crabs can band together, like how the villagers did we when first met them, but if a "gull" is too strong there is nothing the crabs can do, like what happened when they fought us.
Paragraphs 6+7: There is an important distinction between "pelicans" (= missing-nin like us) and "seagulls"; while both are birds and therefore alien to the crabs, the "pelicans" are not "seagulls". The pelicans initially wanted to be left alone and "rest" (= hide) in the tide pool, but were attacked by the crabs anyway since "birds" (= outsiders) are the enemy the crabs can fight. The "large beaks" of the pelicans come into play later on, but the "fish" is also intentionally vague, could mean basic necessities for the pelicans, easy to gain power, etc. Some pelicans, when they first met the crabs, tried to eat the crabs, and whenever this happened both groups of animals died = fighting each other will only lead to all of us dying. Pelicans by their very nature take great swathes of water as they eat (missing-nin attract a lot of attention, more so than any type of "gull") and any crabs died resisting the pelicans trying to eat them (missing-nin attempting to subdue a village like Hidden Mountain). Even if a pelican tried to swallow a crab, the crab would be too "spiky" (= fanatical spite to resist even unto death) to do so (anything the missing-nin might take by force would hurt them rather than help them). Even if a few crabs could rip their way out of the esophagi of the pelicans, they would die in an unfamiliar environment (any villagers would get taken down to their nonexistent understanding of the outside world and any of the antagonists their ancestors sought to escape from in the first place would have an easy time subduing them). The pelicans caused more damage to the tide pool microcosm than even seagulls by taking away large swaths of water as they ate (missing-nin take away secrecy more so than any other type of outsider simply by being missing-nin). This process would repeat so long as the crabs and pelicans distrusted each other.
Paragraph 8: The "strange" event is our team's meeting with the villagers. We, as pelicans, haven't tried to subdue any villagers by force for the sake of our own personal gain (fighting off the villagers non-lethally doesn't really count). Pelicans, by their very nature, are at odds with the gulls just as much as the crabs because the gulls forced the pelicans from the pelicans' nests (anyone from Shikigami, to Yagura, to people hounding us because we are missing-nin that caused us to be uprooted are gulls in this instance). In addition, these particular crabs had learned how to do something useful for the pelicans: "eat seagull eggs" (= intentionally vague, the villagers have a number of skills potentially useful for both of us if we work together). Normal pelican nests are too difficult for the crabs to get through (our defenses with MEW and seals are amazing), but gulls' are not (the village has had a history of somehow maintaining its privacy somehow).
Paragraph 9: "Some pelicans" (=us), had the foresight to see an opportunity by combining the crabs' and pelicans' skills and abilities. As a gesture of goodwill, the pelicans gave the crabs more "water" (from now on, the analogy hints at actions we, the pelicans/missing-nin, could do. We could give the villagers any number of things or ideas to increase the amount of basic needs they have through trade and we can act to obfuscate any attention away from the village to improve its secrecy since we know what people look for when they want to investigate something (after all, we have been sent to investigate something how many times?)). "Leaving enough water" means that we could maintain enough secrecy to prevent the crabs from being found out or dying as we show them how we can work together.
Paragraph 10: The crabs can do things the pelicans cannot, simply because the crabs are crabs and the pelicans are pelicans. The pelicans took some crabs and enough water to a new location so that the crabs could take care of the seagull problem discretely (one option we can offer the village is transportation to a new location and make a new hideout where some villagers could then engage in a variety of useful endeavors aimed at disrupting any mutual enemies we have (pelicans take the crabs to nearby the gulls' nests, crabs eat the eggs, gulls get confused as to why this nest now isn't safe). The crabs themselves don't have to put themselves into too much danger; eating eggs does not involve directly fighting the gulls as they used to (eggs here can mean a variety of things, but most importantly, it hints at attacking the future of our mutual enemies. We have ideas to drastically change the world, but we need people to do any of them. The villagers are an ideal source of labor as they are unknown by almost everyone and they already know how to "walk outside of the water": they have ways already of being useful simply because they know how to use chakra already. Teaching them how to be even more effective agents is much easier than trying to find people from civilian populations that might have an aptitude for using chakra.) The crabs had to be forced to eat the eggs though (in this analogy, missing-nin like us had to put villagers in a position where if they did not go out to eat the eggs, the villagers would have died of starvation, more on this later).
Paragraph 11: It takes a long time to convince someone to become a stalwart ally, but even the most stubborn people can be won over once one party shows the other the benefits of cooperation whereas the alternative is a slow decline into ruin. If there is no opportunity for future generations, gull-antagonists will abandon certain places for better ones. We will still maintain our arrangement though, since it guards against any bold seagulls trying to come back to our claimed tide pools. With enough time, more pockets of small enclaves of both crabs and pelicans can be established to guarantee a future for both the crabs and pelicans.
Paragraph 12 to end: Basically, us telling Takahashi to not be stupid by resisting a mutually beneficial relationship. We could skip so many counter-productive events if we just found a way to trust each other. Even if the crabs didn't have useful characteristic(s), driving away the only people (us) who can interact with the outside world (ocean) to prevent the ruin of their home (evaporation, but we refill the pools with seawater). The village is DOOMED without us; eventually, someone will find them and they will not be as nice as us. The villages' current defenses were not enough to protect them from just the six members of our team; they will be subdued easily by any competent force, like the size of group from our original mission from Mist was way back when with multiple jonin, chunin, and loads of cannon fodder genin. The last line is meant as a Parthian Shot in that even a child could see the benefits of different groups working together rather than try to assimilate each other.
Overall message: If you try to assimilate us or force us away, eventually you will die. We have thought of a way to prevent your village's demise. We are willing to cooperate to make this happen, but only if all of you are on board. Betrayal means lots of death, one way or another, for most of your village. We hope you choose wisely.
Paragraph 2: "where we come from" = outside world. "tide pools" = intentionally vague at this point, could be construed as villages, villages like Hidden Mountain that want to stay secret, or simply civilizations in general. "Water" = necessary components for supporting village life, with a heavy undertone of secrecy for security as well. "storms" = wars that uproot populations of people like the villagers' ancestors into "dry holes" = places where humans normally wouldn't live, but special circumstances, like war, make it appealing and feasible.
Paragraphs 2+3: Since the "crabs" = people like the villagers ancestors, being in a "tide pool" sequesters them from their "natural predators" = strong enemy ninja and/or bandits. Without anyone disrupting them, they can live as they please in almost complete safety.
Paragraphs 3+4: "unforgiving sun" = unstoppable passage of time, the crabs themselves reproducing and lack of other events to occupy inquisitive explorers means that the "water" in the "tide pools" eventually disappears. The "crabs" can go without "water" for a short amount of time in that they can go without secrecy and some basic necessities for a short time, but they have to return to the "water" if they want to stay alive.
Paragraph 5: "fought amongst themselves" = village politics' futility; there is nothing the crabs can do to stop the sun from drying up the pool, but they can limit their numbers through "cannibalizing" = inhumane ways, to delay the effects of the sun on their population. "seagulls" = intentionally vague, mostly as a catch all for antagonists the crabs have no way to defend against, be it overwhelming chakra monsters, enemy ninja, etc. Once enough of the "water" (secrecy and/or necessities for life), is gone, flocks of gulls can swoop down to prey upon the whole population of crabs and there is nothing the crabs can do to save themselves. Sometimes the crabs can band together, like how the villagers did we when first met them, but if a "gull" is too strong there is nothing the crabs can do, like what happened when they fought us.
Paragraphs 6+7: There is an important distinction between "pelicans" (= missing-nin like us) and "seagulls"; while both are birds and therefore alien to the crabs, the "pelicans" are not "seagulls". The pelicans initially wanted to be left alone and "rest" (= hide) in the tide pool, but were attacked by the crabs anyway since "birds" (= outsiders) are the enemy the crabs can fight. The "large beaks" of the pelicans come into play later on, but the "fish" is also intentionally vague, could mean basic necessities for the pelicans, easy to gain power, etc. Some pelicans, when they first met the crabs, tried to eat the crabs, and whenever this happened both groups of animals died = fighting each other will only lead to all of us dying. Pelicans by their very nature take great swathes of water as they eat (missing-nin attract a lot of attention, more so than any type of "gull") and any crabs died resisting the pelicans trying to eat them (missing-nin attempting to subdue a village like Hidden Mountain). Even if a pelican tried to swallow a crab, the crab would be too "spiky" (= fanatical spite to resist even unto death) to do so (anything the missing-nin might take by force would hurt them rather than help them). Even if a few crabs could rip their way out of the esophagi of the pelicans, they would die in an unfamiliar environment (any villagers would get taken down to their nonexistent understanding of the outside world and any of the antagonists their ancestors sought to escape from in the first place would have an easy time subduing them). The pelicans caused more damage to the tide pool microcosm than even seagulls by taking away large swaths of water as they ate (missing-nin take away secrecy more so than any other type of outsider simply by being missing-nin). This process would repeat so long as the crabs and pelicans distrusted each other.
Paragraph 8: The "strange" event is our team's meeting with the villagers. We, as pelicans, haven't tried to subdue any villagers by force for the sake of our own personal gain (fighting off the villagers non-lethally doesn't really count). Pelicans, by their very nature, are at odds with the gulls just as much as the crabs because the gulls forced the pelicans from the pelicans' nests (anyone from Shikigami, to Yagura, to people hounding us because we are missing-nin that caused us to be uprooted are gulls in this instance). In addition, these particular crabs had learned how to do something useful for the pelicans: "eat seagull eggs" (= intentionally vague, the villagers have a number of skills potentially useful for both of us if we work together). Normal pelican nests are too difficult for the crabs to get through (our defenses with MEW and seals are amazing), but gulls' are not (the village has had a history of somehow maintaining its privacy somehow).
Paragraph 9: "Some pelicans" (=us), had the foresight to see an opportunity by combining the crabs' and pelicans' skills and abilities. As a gesture of goodwill, the pelicans gave the crabs more "water" (from now on, the analogy hints at actions we, the pelicans/missing-nin, could do. We could give the villagers any number of things or ideas to increase the amount of basic needs they have through trade and we can act to obfuscate any attention away from the village to improve its secrecy since we know what people look for when they want to investigate something (after all, we have been sent to investigate something how many times?)). "Leaving enough water" means that we could maintain enough secrecy to prevent the crabs from being found out or dying as we show them how we can work together.
Paragraph 10: The crabs can do things the pelicans cannot, simply because the crabs are crabs and the pelicans are pelicans. The pelicans took some crabs and enough water to a new location so that the crabs could take care of the seagull problem discretely (one option we can offer the village is transportation to a new location and make a new hideout where some villagers could then engage in a variety of useful endeavors aimed at disrupting any mutual enemies we have (pelicans take the crabs to nearby the gulls' nests, crabs eat the eggs, gulls get confused as to why this nest now isn't safe). The crabs themselves don't have to put themselves into too much danger; eating eggs does not involve directly fighting the gulls as they used to (eggs here can mean a variety of things, but most importantly, it hints at attacking the future of our mutual enemies. We have ideas to drastically change the world, but we need people to do any of them. The villagers are an ideal source of labor as they are unknown by almost everyone and they already know how to "walk outside of the water": they have ways already of being useful simply because they know how to use chakra already. Teaching them how to be even more effective agents is much easier than trying to find people from civilian populations that might have an aptitude for using chakra.) The crabs had to be forced to eat the eggs though (in this analogy, missing-nin like us had to put villagers in a position where if they did not go out to eat the eggs, the villagers would have died of starvation, more on this later).
Paragraph 11: It takes a long time to convince someone to become a stalwart ally, but even the most stubborn people can be won over once one party shows the other the benefits of cooperation whereas the alternative is a slow decline into ruin. If there is no opportunity for future generations, gull-antagonists will abandon certain places for better ones. We will still maintain our arrangement though, since it guards against any bold seagulls trying to come back to our claimed tide pools. With enough time, more pockets of small enclaves of both crabs and pelicans can be established to guarantee a future for both the crabs and pelicans.
Paragraph 12 to end: Basically, us telling Takahashi to not be stupid by resisting a mutually beneficial relationship. We could skip so many counter-productive events if we just found a way to trust each other. Even if the crabs didn't have useful characteristic(s), driving away the only people (us) who can interact with the outside world (ocean) to prevent the ruin of their home (evaporation, but we refill the pools with seawater). The village is DOOMED without us; eventually, someone will find them and they will not be as nice as us. The villages' current defenses were not enough to protect them from just the six members of our team; they will be subdued easily by any competent force, like the size of group from our original mission from Mist was way back when with multiple jonin, chunin, and loads of cannon fodder genin. The last line is meant as a Parthian Shot in that even a child could see the benefits of different groups working together rather than try to assimilate each other.
Overall message: If you try to assimilate us or force us away, eventually you will die. We have thought of a way to prevent your village's demise. We are willing to cooperate to make this happen, but only if all of you are on board. Betrayal means lots of death, one way or another, for most of your village. We hope you choose wisely.
Side-note: @eaglejarl , if I (or someone else for that matter) made a plan that had this analogy as a part of it, how would you implement it? I'm not asking for you to copy it word for word as this is your quest, but I'd like to maintain the overall message. Would it count as a speech we could write ourselves? I believe we had some discussion about the option of preparing a speech word for word earlier on in the quest, but it has never come up before. I'd be down for that, especially if y'all could give a little blurb at the end of the chapter saying where you got the analogy from.
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Could we Technique Hack that?
- Location
- Yes.
- Location
- ?
Syrup trap and hiding in mist yes, please. Assuming she didn't lie about them. Like fire and earth affinities.
Actually screw water whip. Have Nobby study hiding in mist for stealth bonii and VD shenanigans.should help deal with potential attackers quite nicely.
E: VVV right, no mist. Forgot about that. Shucksh. Syrup then, should work nicely with explosive tags.
Srsly tho, what kind of mist ninja >_<
Actually screw water whip. Have Nobby study hiding in mist for stealth bonii and VD shenanigans.should help deal with potential attackers quite nicely.
E: VVV right, no mist. Forgot about that. Shucksh. Syrup then, should work nicely with explosive tags.
Srsly tho, what kind of mist ninja >_<
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