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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Sorry this is a little rushed; it's getting late and I have things that need to happen tonight. At least I got through most of the plan!

Okay, bye.
 
Thanks Dr. Punchy Bird, that chapter was great.

I think an interesting ploy we could use for the land clearing is fill naruto in, and have him ask around under the guise of building an Uzumaki compound outside the walls. He could probably think of a better reason as hes a magic orange ninja, but there's the gist.
 
eaglejarl said:
and +2 mystery bonus XP because I'm a wonderful person who is absolutely on your side and you should totally remember that fact.
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Well, that's concerning.

eaglejarl said:
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Does that work for the thing you wanted to do with Asuma?

Yes, it should be fine, although that XP award is pretty generous. Regardless, thanks for using the Mari/Asuma first names bit. It will set the twist up nicely.

Cool. :> They are going to absolutely flip their shit, aren't they?

Probably. Brace for salt.

Are you absolutely sure I can't talk you out of this? I agree that it's right from a simulationist perspective for Asuma to be blaming them for the death of his father, but...still.

Simulationism cuts both ways, Dave. If you guys aren't writing this as simulationist, why not just go back to writing Team Anko and LUD? Speaking of, I wouldn't mind seeing a few more chapters of both!

Well said. And I've been working on LUD, as you well know.

But I want moaarrrr! :)

*bleh* Fine, you win. You're right that it's the realistic thing, I'm just sad to see it finally end. I know we said that we'd just start over with a new character, but I don't think I can do that. I'm too invested in the characters we have. Losing Jiraiya was bad enough.

The players are smart people. I'm confident that they'll figure it out on their own. Or maybe Mari will FINALLY beat Asuma in a Deception roll and figure out what's coming.



I know, right? My god, the luck on that boy. Still, he's got a ~60% chance of victory each time, and I'm not sure how many more rolls we can really justify. Well, here's hoping. I really don't want the quest to end either.
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I'm only 99% sure you're joking, so I'm mostly pretty chill with a tiny piece of me panicking up a storm. It's an odd sensation.
 
eaglejarl said:
"Actually...I had a thought about that," Hazō began. "If you cool things enough—
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He knooows. He knooooooows.

Well, it's a bit of a turnaround for Mari to not be campaigning for herself after all, but I'm not gonna gainsay it. We were quite divided on whether or not that'd be a stable equilibrium or if Fire would end up on fire, and Asuma is seeming even more like a good candidate to back. And after all, Mari's been in the thick of it and even if she thought she had a chance at the outset it's plausible for her to realize she's better off gaining support for Asuma.

This turned out really well, all things considered. We know what meetings to go through, what economic gambits to set up, and generally have direction for the near future. I'm looking forward to seeing what we do with it.
 
eaglejarl said:
Not one single person freaked out even slightly. Half an hour in, only one person has even mentioned it. I hate all y'all.
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I have a plugin installed that turns invisitext into black boxes that reveal when hovered over so I noticed right away.

Anyways, the Plan Cache is updated with recent developments and is ready for deployment.
Inferno Vulpix said:
Plan Cache:
  • Ask Keiko if she's willing to come over to optimize her breaking of the Pangolin-Skytower deal.
  • Discuss with the family:
    • Could inter-village adoption (Doigama, Kato...) be plausible?
  • Info-gathering:
    • Ask Kagome to summarize Akatsuki's book.
  • Politicking:
    • Schedule a wake to mourn Leaf's fallen heroes.
    • Inform Naruto about the vote.
    • Designate a Second.
      • Mari? Kagome?
  • Snakes:
    • Hazou: Learn their culture/predispositions from Summons and Jiraiya's notes.
    • Keiko: Message them via Pangolins.
      • Send Jiraiya's letter to Orochimaru along (in case he's alive).
      • Did Orochimaru leave them his will? Jiraiya wrote him a pardon, we'd want to carry out his wishes.
  • Meet with Ami. Secure room at the compound (Anti-Hyuuga seals, Silence Mines). Yuuichi waits outside.
    • Accept her previous terms: no social games, clear exchange of information and commitments.
    • Spend favour(s):
      • (Discuss with Mari first: open-ended or specific? If you have only 1 favour, spend it on power or social?)
      • Politics:
        • Open-ended: "Work with me to maximize my personal influence on Leaf politics."
        • Specific: Assist the Gouketsu against the Hyuuga bloc.
      • Social:
        • Open-ended: "Maximize my social competence over the next half-a-year".
        • Specific: Arrange for IN social training.

Past Major Plans:
A Copy of the Previous Plan So That We Can Re-Vote It In Explicitly, Avoiding the Ambiguity of the"Continue the Previous Plan" Votes by Noumero (and faflec, originally)

"More Like a Cobweb, Really" by Noumero

Ino, You Know by huhYeahGoodPoint

Rules of the Plan Cache:
  1. Get Support. The Plan Cache is for ideas that already have support of a sizeable chunk of the playerbase, not for ideas that someone wants to advocate later. For a benchmark, your idea should have enough support to be in one of the major plans of a cycle if there was room in the plan.
  2. Short-term. The Plan Cache is for ideas that we intend to implement in the next few updates, or more loosely within the same rough story arc. If you have an idea beyond that temporal scope, I have another post storing those ideas so ask me to put it there instead of cluttering up our short-term storage.
Sometimes when we're making a plan we have a good idea that's just outside the temporal scope of the update, but we don't want to cut it from the plan because we might forget by the next cycle. This adds unnecessary words that could have been spent fleshing out the rest of the plan, and may outright cost XP in the worst cases.

This plan cache will hold these subsections so they don't fall into the void between planning cycles. Just ping me with the subsection and, unless it's wildly unreasonable, I'll edit it into the post. I'll keep them there for a while until they either make it into a winning plan, fall out of favour, or the context significantly changes. Depending on circumstances, they might end up in my Side Project Cache, or they might be dropped, and I'll make sure to be transparent about what I'm doing.

I'll do my best to quote this post after every update, so that planmakers can get an easy reminder about what we never quite got to last cycle.
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eaglejarl said:
Not one single person freaked out even slightly. Half an hour in, only one person has even mentioned it. I hate all y'all.
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*sigh* Fiiiine.
eaglejarl said:
QM COMMENTS, NOT FOR POSTING

Does that work for the thing you wanted to do with Asuma?

Yes, it should be fine, although that XP award is pretty generous. Regardless, thanks for using the Mari/Asuma first names bit. It will set the twist up nicely.

Cool. :> They are going to absolutely flip their shit, aren't they?

Probably. Brace for salt.

Are you absolutely sure I can't talk you out of this? I agree that it's right from a simulationist perspective for Asuma to be blaming them for the death of his father, but...still.

Simulationism cuts both ways, Dave. If you guys aren't writing this as simulationist, why not just go back to writing Team Anko and LUD? Speaking of, I wouldn't mind seeing a few more chapters of both!

Well said. And I've been working on LUD, as you well know.

But I want moaarrrr! :)

*bleh* Fine, you win. You're right that it's the realistic thing, I'm just sad to see it finally end. I know we said that we'd just start over with a new character, but I don't think I can do that. I'm too invested in the characters we have. Losing Jiraiya was bad enough.

The players are smart people. I'm confident that they'll figure it out on their own. Or maybe Mari will FINALLY beat Asuma in a Deception roll and figure out what's coming.



I know, right? My god, the luck on that boy. Still, he's got a ~60% chance of victory each time, and I'm not sure how many more rolls we can really justify. Well, here's hoping. I really don't want the quest to end either.
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WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
Apropos of absolutely nothing, I feel the need to state that @eaglejarl is clearly the nicest, most wonderful QM.
eaglejarl said:
that the Clan Head made a crazy speech at the Chūnin Exams about how civilians are people and just as valuable as ninja and we should use ninja magic to help them
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Ha! I knew it was a great idea. Jiraiya's dead so the hit to his political capital is irrelevant, but it pays dividends.
eaglejarl said:
Absence of war would make Tsunade very happy, and if he threw in generous funding for her medical work, she might go for it.
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Ha! I told you she wanted money.
 
So who wants to throw in the last third or so of the last plan together with the Ino and Chouza bits? Not it! :p
 
eaglejarl said:
Not one single person freaked out even slightly. Half an hour in, only one person has even mentioned it. I hate all y'all.
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I was worrying that it was a genuine warning wrapped up in an obvious joke for plausible deniability/maximum butthurt once the foretold monkey business came to pass. I didn't see any invisitext, because apparently tampermonkey userscripts need to be reinstalled when you build an entirely new computer! Who knew?
 
MMKII said:
I'm historically bad with blondes. I swear I saw a rough draft posted somewhere in thread a few weeks ago...
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huhYeahGoodPoint said:
Ino
  • (Retroactively) Get Mari's help on a bouquet of mourning.
    • Considerations:
      • We're friends with Ino, allies to the Yamanaka, but didn't really know Inoichi.
  • Meet Ino at her convenience.
    • We'd like to express our condolences, and talk some business.
    • Gift her the bouquet.
    • Condolences:
      • Could you tell us about the friend we never got to make?
    • Business:
      • Who are the Yamanaka supporting for the Hat?
      • Is there anything we can do to help?
      • Can she introduce us to the diplomatic corps?
    • Thank her for her time.
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Not sure if this is what you're thinking of.
 
Deathbybunnies said:
I was worrying that it was a genuine warning wrapped up in an obvious joke for plausible deniability/maximum butthurt once the foretold monkey business came to pass. I didn't see any invisitext, because apparently tampermonkey userscripts need to be reinstalled when you build an entirely new computer! Who knew?
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Deathbybunnies said:
once the foretold monkey business came to pass
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Deathbybunnies said:
monkey business
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[x] Action Plan: Disheartening Lack of All-Consuming Horror
Wordcount: 299
Timeline: Immediately after Chapter 269.
  • Continue:
    • Regarding Ami:
      • Mari: Any insights into her mind?
        • Is she trustworthy? Can you manage her?
      • Should we spend her favour? Ideas:
        • "Maximize our political influence in Leaf."
        • "Maximize my social competence."
        • Acquire us IN social training.
    • We need manpower. Suggestions:
      • Adopt competent civilians: socially/financially adept people, teenagers suitable for politics/spycraft training...
      • Acquire operatives — civilian, from major clans, and clanless: people who'd run errands in exchange for favours/money/privileges.
        • Utilize Jiraiya's blackmail?
    • Should we continue working with the Kuronuma Group?
      • Sell them ice/salt.
      • Promise help against the Akasugi for assistance.
    • Leaf jounin:
      • How many remain? What are their political affiliations?
      • Can we adopt any clanless ones?
        • Like Kurenai — giving Asuma an excuse for political marriage.
    • Tsunade: Promise her funding before Hiashi?
      • Through Asuma, or by suggesting collaboration on land-clearing.
    • To whom will Dogs/Turtles go?
      • Should we reconsider adopting Lee, if Turtles are his?
    • Weaponizing EM: Hot air rises, cold air falls. Placing a cold effect above a hot one should create a tornado. Useful for land-clearing?
  • Prepare for and schedule meetings:
    • Tomorrow: Ino (lunch), Chouza (afternoon), Asuma (dinner).
    • Overmorrow: Shino, Minami, Keiko (topic: Summons), Team Nakano.
  • Contingency: Ami arrives at the compound (sanity-check with Mari).
    • Put a sign indoors:
      • "Any Ami Mori who sneaks through our defenses unassisted to show off (as judged by Mari) cedes us another favour (–_^)/~~".
    • Carefully introduce to Kagome.
    • Possible discussion topics (Clan + Ami):
      • Establishing communication with her in Mist.
      • Including her in our previously-discussed plots.
      • Akatsuki: They're an existential threat. Pool information, offer full collaboration against them.
        • Is diplomacy possible? Can we influence their idea of "pursuing peace the hard way"?
  • Train creatively.
  • Morning: Work on acquiring operatives with Noburi and Akane.
    • Fund till'n'fills. Consider turning mission-desk ninja (Ito Ino?) into operatives.

@MMKII, note the last section. Is it the right one?
 
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