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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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@Briefvoice I would point out that when using training explosives as a means to kill a merchant-proctor, to be careful to ensure that you're not around fragile items like paper, glass, etc.. Doing damage to property is penalized by -50 points and at least 10,000 ryo (which is another 10 points). I do not want to lose points because of incautious explosives use.

Edit: Same thing with Goo Bombs, though I'm not 100% on that.
 
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faflec said:
@Briefvoice I would point out that when using training explosives as a means to kill a merchant-proctor, to be careful to ensure that you're not around fragile items like paper, glass, etc.. Doing damage to property is penalized by -50 points and at least 10,000 ryo (which is another 10 points). I do not want to lose points because of incautious explosives use.

Edit: Same thing with Goo Bombs, though I'm not 100% on that.
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I believe the goo is a chakra construct and should fade without damage. Regardless, I doubt we'll get all the way to the first fight of the Third Exam in the next update, though I have hopes we can actually get to the start of the exam and see who the 'client' is.
 
rkyeun said:
"Anything else that would reasonably injure or kill a civilian." can include "preventing Team Goketsu from winning by any means" thanks to Kagome's mere existence anywhere on the planet.
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And, more locally, Jiraiya's :p

@Briefvoice Could you please include suggestions as to ways to take down other contestants, including saturating the bandanas with Shino's bugs' pheromones, applying extract of nettle to them, etc. in our discussion with the Leaf teams?

e: Actually, not extract of nettle specifically -- ask Ino what to use (assuming the Yamanaka have a flower shop in MfD as well anyway)
 
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Cariyaga said:
@Briefvoice Could you please include suggestions as to ways to take down other contestants, including saturating the bandanas with Shino's bugs' pheromones, applying extract of nettle to them, etc. in our discussion with the Leaf teams?
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For that matter, it might be wise to add a check for some of our lesser-used jutsu, like Zephyr's/Pangolin's Reach; they may be useful in causing "injury" to a merchant-proctor.

I really want to convince a proctor Pangolin's Reach is a "damaging" jutsu.
 
Honestly, I'd be very surprised if, in concert with the other leaf genin, we were not able to completely wreck this event.

My primary concern, though, is taking out the high-power teams' clients. We can't let them get to the tournament.
 
Cariyaga said:
Honestly, I'd be very surprised if, in concert with the other leaf genin, we were not able to completely wreck this event.

My primary concern, though, is taking out the high-power teams' clients. We can't let them get to the tournament.
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Given our luck we will be gangbanged by multiple Mist teams within the first half hour.
 
Cariyaga said:
Nope, it'd only be -20 + Monies then.
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eaglejarl said:
If your client is 'killed' then you are disqualified from the event and your score for the event is a flat -200 points or whatever score you have earned if it is below -200.
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On another note...here's a thing we can do.

Bandannas are supposed to be worn around the neck and be visible at all times. But there's nothing stopping us from making it look like they're part of another piece of clothing like our shirt (turtlenecks?) and thus make us look like we're not in the event even though we are. Add a Henge and we'd be able to sneak about much more easily.
 
I am still opposed to generally sharing Event information with other Leaf teams and discussing strategy with them unless there is some specific deal in place. There aren't huge advantages to knowing the details in advance, but there definitely are some. I want to come out of this with a higher score than the other Leaf teams (or at least other than maybe one team we're partnering with). And frankly if Team Gai ends up down some points I wouldn't cry either. I don't really have to face Neji or Rock Lee or Tenten in the tournament, and I'm of the opinion that if we get a chance to assassinate their client or that of any other Leaf Team, we should take it. I mean, we don't have to go out of our way to seek them out, but if the opportunity knocks...

Cariyaga said:
Going with Vecht's plan sounds good then. Hole our merchant up and escort their contacts to them.
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I just don't see how that would work. The client is going to refuse and we can't physically coerce them. If we so much as touch our own client in a hostile manner, by the letter of the rules they can declare we've killed them!

faflec said:
On another note...here's a thing we can do.

Bandannas are supposed to be worn around the neck and be visible at all times. But there's nothing stopping us from making it look like they're part of another piece of clothing like our shirt (turtlenecks?) and thus make us look like we're not in the event even though we are. Add a Henge and we'd be able to sneak about much more easily.
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You understand the point of all these rules on bandanas and collateral damage, right? They aren't arbitrary things to be gotten around in the spirit of "ninjas cheat". They exist because this Event is being held in the midst of an actual village full of regular citizens going about their regular lives, and Mist wants to make very, very, very sure that their citizens aren't accidentally the target of attacks. They want no confusion about who is in the event (and therefore a target) and who is not, and any attempt to fuck with that must be regarded as a clear threat to the safety of the village.
 
PSA: I went back and added a 2 FP award to the chapter. Expectation management: the QMs haven't come up with guidelines for how we're doing FP awards yet, so I'm not sure if that's a good, bad, or average award. I have some concerns about FP inflation that I suspect @Velorien and @OliWhail share (haven't spoken about it yet) so it's probably going to be a good award and future updates will receive fewer.
 
Briefvoice said:
You understand the point of all these rules on bandanas and collateral damage, right? They aren't arbitrary things to be gotten around in the spirit of "ninjas cheat". They exist because this Event is being held in the midst of an actual village full of regular citizens going about their regular lives, and Mist wants to make very, very, very sure that their citizens aren't accidentally the target of attacks. They want no confusion about who is in the event (and therefore a target) and who is not, and any attempt to fuck with that must be regarded as a clear threat to the safety of the village.
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Bubbut the cheatinggggg :(

I just want us to find another hilarious exploit like the last Event, sorry.
 
Why don't we give the other villages the benefit of the doubt and realize this is just a fun tell to guard a merchant. We should relax, as I'm sure nothing can possibly go wrong.
 
@faflec I'm still not getting what you mean. If we keep our client alive until the end, the least we get is -20. If we get them paid, we get -20+monies/1000, right...?
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I am still opposed to generally sharing Event information with other Leaf teams and discussing strategy with them unless there is some specific deal in place. There aren't huge advantages to knowing the details in advance, but there definitely are some. I want to come out of this with a higher score than the other Leaf teams (or at least other than maybe one team we're partnering with). And frankly if Team Gai ends up down some points I wouldn't cry either. I don't really have to face Neji or Rock Lee or Tenten in the tournament, and I'm of the opinion that if we get a chance to assassinate their client or that of any other Leaf Team, we should take it. I mean, we don't have to go out of our way to seek them out, but if the opportunity knocks...
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I disagree with you. Frankly, I'm fine with losing to Team Gai in the tournament if it is Leaf-only. Also, it's quite likely that the older Leaf teams would beat us just as readily as they would.

As a whole, I think that we have much to gain from cooperating with the other Leaf teams -- particularly Teams Asuma and Kurenai. Sure, ask a favor of them to be called in at a later date during the exams in exchange for this, but we'll want their help in verifying it as well as in taking out enemy teams.

Point of fact: Our team is highly unsuited to assassination of any kind. We don't have the stealth necessary, nor do our clan techniques work well with it.

Second point: Teams Asuma and Kurenai's skillsets are highly suited to taking out enemy teams, but the latter's is only particularly so in this case with a little set-up time, which we can provide them.
 
Cariyaga said:
@faflec I'm still not getting what you mean. If we keep our client alive until the end, the least we get is -20. If we get them paid, we get -20+monies/1000, right...?
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My argument is that if we hole up the client somewhere, the Mist teams will just break in/beat us up over the course of the next 5 days and then "kill" the client anyway.
 
If it's just a 200 point loss if the client dies, why don't we just kill our client asap? That is, if we still have enough points to go to the next exam.
 
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