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In theory, yes. In practice...not so much. IIRC we don't have any prepared kawarimi targets and the clones aren't viable ones (due to, presumably, being bait/a distraction).
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
What if we just run to the exit.
And do nothing else.
They'll never see it coming!
And do nothing else.
They'll never see it coming!
Cariyaga
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Hm... How much chakra could we regen over the 3 hours? If we just had Kei summon a pangolin to dig a (sufficiently-large) escape tunnel to the outside of the Ring of Death over the next couple hours, using Noburi to keep her topped up from everyone else, we could have Neji scout it out, then just vamoose quickly before anyone knew what was going on.
We can drop a few long timer explosives over to destroy all our traps (so enemy sealmasters don't get any of our seals), and be out before anyone knows what's happening. As long as we do it far enough ahead of time, they can't afford to have Living Roots (et al) on all the time, it's kind of chakra expensive, so as long as they don't know we're leaving, they won't have any idea of what's happening until we're gone. And we only need ~3 minutes to get out, so one minute's lead is enough for us to get out.
We can drop a few long timer explosives over to destroy all our traps (so enemy sealmasters don't get any of our seals), and be out before anyone knows what's happening. As long as we do it far enough ahead of time, they can't afford to have Living Roots (et al) on all the time, it's kind of chakra expensive, so as long as they don't know we're leaving, they won't have any idea of what's happening until we're gone. And we only need ~3 minutes to get out, so one minute's lead is enough for us to get out.
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They can try to, but then Sand, Rock, Lightning, Noodle, and Hot Springs would join Leaf and start shitting down Mist's throat. Especially Rock and Sand, who've gotten 4 and 3 teams to join in on our scheme.
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I kinda already did write this, though it's not as explicit as yours (I had us do full tunnel-escape as an option, but left open the possibility of going above-ground). Didn't do the "destroy our base" though, I'll add that in to preparations.
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@faflec, can you change your plan to take into account that we don't have tunneler's friend seals, and thus are unlikely to be able to send Neji with Panashe for scouting, and will be unable to tunnel under the ground to get past the trap line?
As a suggestion, we could have Noburi send clones (or we could just throw PMYF) to points on the edge of the trapped zone, then have Neji substitute with them rapid fire while using his byakugan to scout out how the area around the zone of death looks? We could also use PMYF to get past the trap line instead of tunneling under it.
Could we have Banshee Slayers active from the start? That would save some time fumbling around at the start of combat for our allies who are less familiar with the seals.
The plan also says we're clearing a path using explosives, but can we change it to training explosives to avoid accidentally killing anyone hiding in front of us? Or would training seals not work well enough?
Regardless, I prefer running towards the exit, rather than trying to fight everything in our path. We'll probably get plenty of fighting done anyway.
[X] Action Plan: Last-Minute Escape
As a suggestion, we could have Noburi send clones (or we could just throw PMYF) to points on the edge of the trapped zone, then have Neji substitute with them rapid fire while using his byakugan to scout out how the area around the zone of death looks? We could also use PMYF to get past the trap line instead of tunneling under it.
Could we have Banshee Slayers active from the start? That would save some time fumbling around at the start of combat for our allies who are less familiar with the seals.
The plan also says we're clearing a path using explosives, but can we change it to training explosives to avoid accidentally killing anyone hiding in front of us? Or would training seals not work well enough?
Regardless, I prefer running towards the exit, rather than trying to fight everything in our path. We'll probably get plenty of fighting done anyway.
[X] Action Plan: Last-Minute Escape
Cariyaga
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You should probably make the tunnel immediately, not when it's needed. That way Neji can do a quick check before we vamoose instead of having to wait.
Hazou can infuse Tunneler's Friends, actually.
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Why does our lack of Tunneler's Friend seals mean that we cannot send Neji with Panashe? IIRC Pangolins have access to a burrowing technique (similar to Tunneling Excavation) that produces a permanent tunnel; Neji could in theory follow Panashe underground while still being able to breathe.
This isn't an impossible plan but requires Neji to use 14CP for each log which is really expensive.
Edit: After checking the new rules, having Banshee Slayers up gives -1 to Awareness and -0.5 to Stealth. This is per "protection point" which is a lot when considering Banshee seals.
Kinda-sorta? I'm not sure how powerful training explosives actually are. I'll edit it to say that we avoid using higher-level explosives to avoid "going full lethal" unless we need the stronger explosives to clear a path.
I mean...the idea is to have Panashe and co. check where the best place to build a tunnel is first (read: places of least resistance) and build the tunnel after that. I'll make it more explicit.
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Cariyaga
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Oh, uh, right... how do we get through the water table without drowning ourselves underground?
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The current plan:
The same way Panashe did?
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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She did so? Sorry, I don't remember that, can you give me a quote?
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Well I mean...she went underground. How else would she have avoided drowning, if not through ninja chakra magic?
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Fuck it. @eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Do any of Keiko's contracted Pangolins know Tunnel Excavation, or a similar jutsu that works in this terrain without us having to worry about water tables and the lot?
Cariyaga
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No, I mean, I don't remember her going underground.
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*rereads everything*
Son of a bitch, QMs retcon'd the part where Panashe burrowed underground. It was Chuunin Exam Second Event, Continued; the part where they brought Team Guy in. I'd thought they'd said that Panashe was supposed to tail Hazou's proctor from underground too, but it wasn't explicit. Though I can't imagine how else Panashe would be able to tail the proctor and then come back AND get intel on the proctor's central hub...
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Violently
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Are we allowed to skytower/skywalker out of the base? Or carpet bomb the area with flash bamgs? Do we have aby underground ways to escape?
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I think @Cariyaga was referring to the making of the plan, not the execution.
Though I could be completely wrong about that.
No, no, yes. Sky-anything is banned by word-of-Jiraiya and we don't have flashbangs. We do have the ability to make tunnels, which is what my plan is.
Cariyaga
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If tunnel-making doesn't work though we need to have an idea of how to get away above ground without getting collapsed on. Also need to have plans for if the other genin groups don't want to go along with the tunnel plan too. And for how to get away if we encounter a group too big to deal with.
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Bumrush things at full speed (maybe on a Pangolin or two), while throwing out Banshees and explosive tags like they're going out of style?
Like, that's what I would do.