That would be extraordinarily socially awkward and humiliating for all involved, and I think evidence suggests death is preferable to social awkwardness.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
That would be extraordinarily socially awkward and humiliating for all involved, and I think evidence suggests death is preferable to social awkwardness.
We have very good reasons to suspect that it was the Yazuka rather than Jiraiya ordering a hit involving his clanmembers in a dangerous and unpredictable ninja fight. Seriously, he did not need to lose a once in a generation genius, and make his wife cry when he has one other family member to rescue.
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- Phoenix, AZ
I like this. Have a vote and a list of things we can do for the speed option.
[X] Action Plan: Blow this popsicle stand (Speed)
Non Binding Suggestion List for Blow this popsicle stand
- While in the house:
- Dispel
- Henge into ourselves without poison - should delay any poison damage
- Misterators in the building - make sure there are no henged ninja or other chakra sources are nearby
- Living Roots Technique to check for enemies lying in wait for ambush nearby, outside or inside the house
- Put Minami in storage scroll
- Take her seals off her person first - no need for seal-pocalypse yet
- Use MEW and directional explosives to sculpt a charged blast for escape purposes
- If there may be enemies outside, arm at least 2 - one pointed towards the enemies, one away, ideally more if we have enough explosives.
- Reset an Air dome barrier for extra defense when we blow holes in the walls
- Prepare purifiers and tunneler's friends to be able to breath through poison in the house and smoke outside
- Prepare banshee slayers for use if we need to drop ear busters
- Blow a holes in the walls and initiate leaving sequence.
- Leaving Sequence:
- Send clones through each opening we made in the house armed with misterators and fire-log macerators
- Have the clones attach misterators to the outside of the building to provide mist cover
- Have the clones lay down a trail of mist via misterators, followed by exploding themselves with the fire-log macerators
- Have Noburi check through the mist for chakra signatures: draining everything he senses dry
- Run through the opening farthest away from any suspected enemy combatants and immediately run through the smoke upwards, throwing additional AOE fire-log macerators to the ground
- Have clones run out of the smoke into the forest (laying a false trail, buying time to flee into the sky)
- While running through the sky:
- Get above clouds if possible
- Don't stop
- Go towards the meeting place for Akane's group
- When reporting with Akane's group:
- Explain everything we did, including our escape methods and Minami's death
- Suggest immediately sending a report to Jiraiya
- Accept Akane's leadership (she was Minami's chosen second in command)
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We should abort the mission. It's possible that other part of the network is compromised.
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- The Void
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I'm totally down for us making that decision. I just think we need to plot in greater detail than that. Personally think we should demand that Jiraiya let us hit the yakuza back. Play up the uncontrollable furry we have for being hit. That way Jiraiya can reign us in
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- Phoenix, AZ
I think we should continue the mission, just with more caution.
We might have already completed our mission?
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I think we should try to convince Jiraiya to let us abort, but continue the mission with additional support from Konoha (dunno what would qualify, but hey).
Edit: @Kiba we still have several islands:
Plus however many more Jiraiya gave us.
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- Europe
We can just wait for Jiraiya to answer?
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- Phoenix, AZ
Pretty sure we've got more stops left on our list?
I'd prefer not to lie to Jiraiya about what we want to do? Seems like a bad way to go.
I mean, yes. Likely, we'll lose a day from communication delays, but I figure we can spend that day moving towards our next place.
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- USA
Thanks. Added this as a link to the Speed plan.
Along with @Kiba I'd also support an abort.
The very question also raises problems with even the new plan format, though, since really "how do we get the hell away from here?" and "now what?" are completely distinct questions.
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Might be good to stop at some point in an hour or two, unhenge, and have Noburi check us for poison damage, rather than keep going for who knows how long.
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- Phoenix, AZ
Fair. I've removed the "suggest we continue with the mission" part from the Non-binding suggestions list.
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- UK
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Could this be a communications issue? I have complained about various aspects of long plans before, but I have never said a word against contingencies. I love contingencies. They tell me exactly what the players want to do when a certain condition is met, and I get to ignore them completely when it isn't. Best of both worlds.
This incident has nothing to do with levels of planning. There is nothing you could have done to avoid encountering the ninja short of voting to skip this particular contact (which would be weird and improbable and you'd have a devil of a time convincing Minami to do it).
I will grant that it could have happened on a different update. But there are reasons it didn't, and not just in-universe timing ones but also the fact that you guys are fed up with this arc, so we want to get any significant events in it over with at the earliest possible opportunity. I don't think anyone would have thanked us if we'd decided to make this update about more low-agency delivery work.
I also feel like we're in a no-win situation in regard to the combat here. We end up writing a scene where the characters make close-to-optimal decisions without player input, and survive a jōnin's ambush with only one casualty, and we get told we responded poorly to a short player plan. Yet how would people have reacted if we'd gone the other way and let the characters make poor decisions because the plan didn't offer us anything to draw on?
I'm confused to hear this criticism from you of all people, given that you designed Minami's abilities. You gave her exactly three ninjutsu: a reactive technique (the jōnin didn't attack her), an AoE technique (which would have hit her team) and an anti-MC technique (she was fighting a single opponent). She therefore did the most sensible thing she could as a swordswoman against a ninjutsu user - move in and try to take them out before further ninjutsu could be used. If you can tell me what means of coordination she could have employed with her team - bearing in mind that combat time was ticking and there was a jōnin about to attack - feel free.
(For what it's worth, in sequence terms Hōzuki's Mantle actually went off before her attack, so there was no circumstance where Minami would have tried to rally the team to make use of MC bonuses.)
As for Hazō, he had the same initial response as her, and it's explicit that he changed his mind only after seeing Minami get one-shotted and realising that he was unlikely to fare better. At this point, yes, the sealmaster decided to use seals as a solution to his problem.
Note that this "far more intelligent action" would have got him just as killed, if not more - he was taking poison damage every round, and the air dome was only stretching the battle out. He was only saved by Noburi's realisation.
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- UK
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Best typo ever.
You do. We gave you a list at some point, but I need to go to bed and so can't search the thread for it right now.
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- Phoenix, AZ
Hmm... I don't think so. From what Kagome's said in the past, our bodies don't age when we are henged. This would imply that poison doesn't spread when we're henged. So, we probably shouldn't unhenge until we've reached a place we can treat the poison and are safe. Admitedly, if it's days, then we'll need to stop. Kagome has also warned us about the brain based dangers of maintaining henges for long periods of time.
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- Phoenix, AZ
For what it's worth, I viewed this combat as pretty much perfectly executed by the QMs and have no complaints. I was very encouraged by the way you had Hazou intelligently use his seals to solve a problem (buy time and safety, remove poison).
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- USA
Well at least now we'll never forget to account for this
I enjoyed this update a lot, yay action and danger!
I also thought this combat scene was done well.
All the characters acted within the parameters of intelligence that were previously characterised.
All the characters acted within the parameters of intelligence that were previously characterised.
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- USA
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- He/Him
It's in the 'Informational' threadmarks, with the title 'Courier mission destinations'. The remainder of the list is complete -- O'uzu and Honey were the only new ones that Jiraiya added.