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It's just so time consuming, you know?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
It's just so time consuming, you know?
Cariyaga
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Guys, me and huhYeahGoodPoint just figured out how Itachi's so broken.
So you know how you can Tsukuyomi a shadow clone and its experiences go back to the original?
...He can Tsukuyomi his own shadow clone for training. And I'd bet money that the first thing he did was train his chakra control to ludicrous levels to provide for medical ninjutsu to keep his eyes from going blind.
So you know how you can Tsukuyomi a shadow clone and its experiences go back to the original?
...He can Tsukuyomi his own shadow clone for training. And I'd bet money that the first thing he did was train his chakra control to ludicrous levels to provide for medical ninjutsu to keep his eyes from going blind.
Cariyaga
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The same way that Shadow Clones would. Tsukuoyomi, in canon at least, compresses 3 days into the span of three seconds, IIRC -- use that on a shadow clone, and you get three days worth of training in 3 seconds.
Vecht
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Unless Itachi is consistently getting a quarter million exp per day, this either doesn't work, has severe limitations, or the diminishing returns are extremely steep.
It would however handily explain the "ANBU Captain at age 13" bullshit.
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The point is realative cost. Roki only costing 33 exp for 3 dice is a huge bargain.
Edit: though totally agree with you that after that we definitely should work on getting tacmove up to 30. Should be pretty fast as long as we have 5 exp a day plans coming in
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@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail
A long time ago Noburi did bloodline science and thought that, with training, he could recycle a clone's Water chakra. Was this ever followed-up on, or have we been sitting on this the whole time? In other words, can he now do this, and what are the specifics?
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We discussed nothing that we truly fear being known. Most proposed seal designs are based on seals that are known to pretty much everyone and/or are theoretical in their entirety, the discussion on Kagome gave nothing Minami didn't already know, and Minami already knows about our combat abilities. The only "dangerous" thing that could have been spread was the details on the Frozen Skein, which at worst tells Minami that Keiko can't be uber-smart all the time without risking danger to her own well-being.
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Obvious way to get tacmove up is seal-vacuum-rockets. Let's at least
- talk to kagome about how he thinks the air-freshener seal get around the "needs a boundary" limitation of conventional storage seals.
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For all that Tsukuyomi is insanely broken, it's got a chakra cost as a genjutsu, likely to be incredibly high for it's commensurate power. Also, it may not work for long, depending on whether or not the blindness from overuse is a thing, and how quickly Itachi pegged onto that if it is.
Incidentally, that probably explains why Itachi doesn't just Tsukuyomi literally everybody he meets and why Jiraiya is still alive; likely he doesn't want to use it too much or can't use it too much.
Why do you go breaking the system like this? PMYF should let you roll Kawarimi+(1/2 TacMov) to get to any range band. And that's being generous. Otherwise, I'd make it straight Weapons vs TacMov.
Yes, I just want to make sure that we're all on the same page about what we know and that none of us are assuming that simply walking away after explicitly warning her that we're about to have a private conversation is any sort of security.
In fact, it might be a good way to feed her misinformation or framed context since she might consider the lipreading part unintuitive enough to not assume that we've guessed it.
Keiko has probably already worked this out. It would have been smart to be so circumspect just out of good form, but she's also the most reasoned member of the team.
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This seems like a bad idea.
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Nah, a range band switch is entirely justified. What is more likely to happen is a malus to whatever combat die you were planning to do in that range to account for substitution disorientation, or maybe have that Weapons vs TacMov but have the TacMov check be at least a B class success to get out of the range band. PMYF is actually a pretty good idea, for all that it's a watered down version of the seal that pretty much ended a war in a single battle.
Cariyaga
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Hm... it might be better to save that XP for tac move. Not sure, though.
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Noburi is basically hosed on tacmove. I'm starting to think we should move him to a more substition based strategy using PMYF. Since we would never have to pay an attribute cost for that
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Meh, might as well try to go two for two.
[] Action Plan: Where's My Lab Coat?
[] Action Plan: Where's My Lab Coat?
- Continue the mission as per previous protocol
- Trust our instincts, especially if they start screaming to shove our feet in our mouths
- Follow previous precedent and orders from Minami
- Do not reuse Henge, but keep it up when teammates do not make up all of the people who can conceivably see us.
- Send regular messages to Jiraiya via the Pangolins. If Akatsuki appears, tell Keiko to delve into Frozen Skein just long enough to come up with a plan to escape without her providing fire support, and then have her reverse summon. Have her report to Jiraiya immediately.
- Let Minami decide team composition and how to approach contacts.
- If any enemy ninja or action is spotted, report it to Minami immediately unless we have a clear and compelling reason to do otherwise.
- Ask around for rumors about Mist and Water Country, but do it with all the subtlety that we can use and still get usable information.
- A comedic scene of Hazou digging through his set of nigh infinite storage seals to see everything that we have in there would be appreciated, but if the GMs don't have the bandwidth a summary of his complete inventory would work too.
- Talk with Kagome (needs work, hence why I haven't voted for this plan)
- Research topics
- Is there a seal that can activate another seal? Can we make such a seal?
- If we can, can we make the activator seal trigger on proximity detection?
- Can we make a different activator seal that triggers based on the action of a paired seal? (whoever came up with the ARF, this is all you)
- How difficult would such a seal be to infuse?
- Can we make seals that activate upon tearing? The idea is like the implosion seals that we've used before.
- How dangerous would it be to mount Force Barriers on Fuma Shurikens to act like invisible Wind Release: Vacuum Blade? How much for regular shurikens? What about a set of force barriers, placed to sharpen to an edge or point?
- Can we check out the Mountain seals? Have we already? What did they do?
- Is there a seal that can activate another seal? Can we make such a seal?
- Research topics
- We'd like Jiraiya's input on a few things as we send progress reports via pangolins
- Most pertinent and time sensitive will be Akane's icemaking abilities and how we can leverage that, but this is dependent on Akane's approval/ whether we had a chat with Akane.
- Ask him what he's heard out of Mist and whether a Hana extraction mission is possible.
- If it is, is that mission time-sensitive?
- Lastly, bug Keiko a bit over whether the pangolin mission failed or was scrapped thanks to the utter domination of the pangolins over the condors.
- I'd like to have a more indepth Akane chat, but if we're going straight to Leaf, ask her how she feels about selling ice (thank you Elemental Mastery) and telling Jiraiya and/or Minami about it. (Read: I understand if you do this because you want to get the mission on, but please please leave it out)
- Brief Minami on Akane's ability to make ice only if she approves. Let Minami decide what to do as team leader, but suggest we ask Jiraiya for advice.
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Cariyaga
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Not getting the half-XP discount suuuuuuucks though.
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Which half XP discount?
Cariyaga
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The one for leveling elemental techniques. If you've got a technique of an element at at least 10, then further techniques in that element get half XP cost to raise, up to the level of your highest technique in the element.
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Gonna say this every plan until it happens or we get back to Leaf or something, but I want to know what those Mountain seals are. At this point the only way it looks like we'll get to them is if they're in every update's plan until it actually happens.
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To be fair, we don't get that for Noburi in TacMov anyway. Noburi's build is probably one of the few that could actually afford to spam Substitution like candy.
E: Inferno Vulpix, I just added mountain seal analysis to the plan
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@huhYeahGoodPoint would personally like to talk to Akane about the ice selling business even if we don't try to establish anything on this trip. Also personally would try to do a poly talk with her. Specifically how she feels about Rock Lee and Ino
Cariyaga
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Should wait for NRE to be over so she doesn't make a decision now that she'll regret later.