Even if we take that we're better off without Kagome now, we can't just vanish him and have the team forget about him. Our bonds of loyalty mean that killing/exiling Kagome would be severly damaging to the team's morale and mental state. It being cold is much more than just the real-world moral implications, it's what happens in-story when we try to get Hazou to kill his beloved sensei simply because he's inconvenient.
Of course there will be emotional costs to Team Uplift if Jiraiya executes Kagome. That doesn't change the fact that we need to put Jiraiya in charge of the situation, as the only person who has the lawful authority and the raw power to deal with Kagome, and that his decision might well be that he needs to end Kagome.
No, I am not suggesting that Hazo try to end Kagome himself. That would be impossible, both for emotional reasons and practical power reasons, and outside his non-existent authority to boot. I am suggesting that we need to be in touch with Jiraiya ASAP, and that Kagome's execution is a very real possibility.
Also, that if he is executed, it would be a hit to Team Uplift, but not a quest-ending one. It would be drama in the story, not the end of the story.
Meh, raising J as the source of formal discipline is about acutely defusing Minami's outrage. J probably hasn't been around enough to have a great deal of influence over Kagome. The rest of the team making the threat of kicking him very, very real, on the other hand will hurt. Seeing the team make a jounin actually have a sobbing nervous breakdown over separation anxiety, likely joined by Hazou for his role in this mess, will probably also help Minami realize that she can't really apply ordinary standards of measurement to this group and that their behavior is the result comically severe dysfunctionality rather than cold-blooded evil.
Of course there will be emotional costs to Team Uplift if Jiraiya executes Kagome. That doesn't change the fact that we need to put Jiraiya in charge of the situation, as the only person who has the lawful authority and the raw power to deal with Kagome, and that his decision might well be that he needs to end Kagome.
No, I am not suggesting that Hazo try to end Kagome himself. I am suggesting that we need to be in touch with Jiraiya ASAP, and that Kagome's execution is a very real possibility.
Are you suggesting abandoning the mission and heading back to Leaf?
Because if not, I don't know what you think Jiraiya is going to do. He doesn't have any time for this bullshit; certainly not to come out and deal with Kagome personally. Nor do I expect him to view mere "attempted" murder (Cue joke about no prizes for attempted physics.) as a good reason to pull the team in given his reasons for sending them out were to minimize drama.
So what do you think "be in touch with Jiraiya ASAP" will actually accomplish?
Meh, raising J as the source of formal discipline is about acutely defusing Minami's outrage. J probably hasn't been around enough to have a great deal of influence over Kagome. The rest of the team making the threat of kicking him very, very real, on the other hand will hurt. Seeing the team make a jounin actually have a sobbing nervous breakdown over separation anxiety, likely joined by Hazou for his role in this mess, will probably also help Minami realize that she can't really apply ordinary standards of measurement to this group and that their behavior is the result comically severe dysfunctionality rather than cold-blooded evil.
Are you suggesting abandoning the mission and heading back to Leaf?
Because if not, I don't know what you think Jiraiya is going to do. He doesn't have any time for this bullshit; certainly not to come out and deal with Kagome personally. Nor do I expect him to view mere "attempted" murder (Cue joke about no prizes for attempted physics.) as a good reason to pull the team in given his reasons for sending them out were to minimize drama.
So what do you think "be in touch with Jiraiya ASAP" will actually accomplish?
I've discussed this earlier. I agree with Lailoken that the immediate need is to calm Minami down. Threatening to exile Kagome is probably necessary for that, actually exiling him might be necessary.
But to Briefvoice, I am not suggesting abandoning the mission. Once the immediate emergency is passed, I want us to have Keiko contact Jiraiya via summons and have a team sent out that's capable of taking custody of Kagome, escorting him back to Leaf or to wherever Jiraiya wants him, and have the Hokage/Clan Head/Sannin Seal Master deal with the crazy Jonin Seal Master that has just attempted to murder his team leader, betraying his team and clan to do it, and whose very presence is an ongoing threat to the existence of Team Uplift and Clan Jiraiya.
In other words, I want us to acknowledge that the risks that Kagome poses far outweigh his utility, and that Hazo, Noburi, Keiko, and Minami do not have the ability to deal with him. We've got to kick it up the ladder, and that means Jiraiya.
It's not mere attempted murder. It's treason. Kagome tried to kill his team leader, a team leader put in that position by the direct order of the Hokage, in order to protect clan secrets, but without consulting with the rest of the clan, particularly the Clan Leader, who happens to be the Hokage. He is immensely powerful and immensely dangerous, and if Jiraiya doesn't make time to deal with him, then Jiraiya doesn't deserve to be either Hokage or Clan Leader.
But to Briefvoice, I am not suggesting abandoning the mission. Once the immediate emergency is passed, I want us to have Keiko contact Jiraiya via summons and have a team sent out that's capable of taking custody of Kagome, escorting him back to Leaf or to wherever Jiraiya wants him, and have the Hokage/Clan Head/Sannin Seal Master deal with the crazy Jonin Seal Master that has just attempted to murder his team leader, betraying his team and clan to do it, and whose very presence is an ongoing threat to the existence of Team Uplift and Clan Jiraiya.
In other words, I want us to acknowledge that the risks that Kagome poses far outweigh his utility, and that Hazo, Noburi, Keiko, and Minami do not have the ability to deal with him. We've got to kick it up the ladder, and that means Jiraiya.
I did that awhile ago, but you're right, we need a new one that includes all the other steps. So, if we're now agreed that (once the immediate emergency is dealt with) we need to kick Kagome up to Jiraiya, what are the other things we need to accomplish, and how do we plan to go about accomplishing them?
Defuse the emergency, certainly, that's priority number one. How do we get Minami to stand down and not do anything stupid?
Will Kagome try to fight his way out once he realizes that we are going to turn him over to Jiraiya? How do we prevent that? Or do we just let him go if he tries because he's too powerful for us to stop?
What else do we need to do? How do we do it? Let's talk.
I did that awhile ago, but you're right, we need a new one that includes all the other steps. So, if we're now agreed that (once the immediate emergency is dealt with) we need to kick Kagome up to Jiraiya, what are the other things we need to accomplish, and how do we plan to go about accomplishing them?
Defuse the emergency, certainly, that's priority number one. How do we get Minami to stand down and not do anything stupid?
Will Kagome try to fight his way out once he realizes that we are going to turn him over to Jiraiya? How do we prevent that? Or do we just let him go if he tries because he's too powerful for us to stop?
What else do we need to do? How do we do it? Let's talk.
Oh, I don't agree with turning him over to Jiraiya or or actively trying to get him pulled from the mission. So naturally I'm not interested in refining such a plan.
But for those who do agree with you, I think you're best off putting up an actual plan for them to coalesce around and start making suggestions/edits.
Oh, I don't agree with turning him over to Jiraiya or or actively trying to get him pulled from the mission. So naturally I'm not interested in refining such a plan.
But for those who do agree with you, I think you're best off putting up an actual plan for them to coalesce around and start making suggestions/edits.
but, indeed, we were actually actively known to be hostile in our first interaction, where Jiraiya attacked a prepared sealsmaster head-on. I believe there was even a rule specifically against doing that! He clearly wasn't aware of our loadout, as we later surprised him with at least some of it, and it's hard to imagine a case where our team would have had a better chance at a lucky shot.
It's impossible to conceal the fact that Keiko is the Pangolin Summoner, not only because the skill itself is so conspicuous, but also because that information can be gained by any other summoner via Summon Realm diplomacy/spycraft, and that's not something Keiko can influence.
Skywalkers were shared with Leaf on purpose, yes, but there's no particular reason that politics should take specific priveledge over team dynamics, especially not to Kagome.
Why Hazō can copy seals quickly was never revealed, but that doesn't stop the risk from this information leaking exceeding the risk from mist drain leaking.
I disagree. There are far too many theoretical ways for Hazō to copy seals quickly for this information to be useful/damaging on its own. Perhaps he just has a perfect visual memory, or perhaps he can make ink patterns crawl off the page and onto his skin until he releases them onto another piece of paper. Whereas mist draining is a unique ability begging for the design of creative counters (or, as someone's pointed out, for attackers to focus fire on Noburi at the start of a battle).
I mean, yeah part of that is that she wants to believe, but he's also a kid. Even in the 'grow up fast' ninja world, you can't trust kids with secrets.
@Briefvoice I think that we may need to put more effort to immediately giving her reason to listen to us -- I think we should probably address her first, and Kagome last, or vice versa. Probably Kagome first, actually. We need her to see him being a gibbering mess at the prospects of being forced to leave us.
@Briefvoice I think that we may need to put more effort to immediately giving her reason to listen to us -- I think we should probably address her first, and Kagome last, or vice versa. Probably Kagome first, actually. We need her to see him being a gibbering mess at the prospects of being forced to leave us.
"One person just tried to kill you, three just saved your life. You are currently in a confined space a thousand feet above the ground with a jounin, two explosives experts, and a team best known for killing jounin-level threats with positively obscene levels of collateral damage. If you want to leave you can just walk away. We won't stop you. -but please think very carefully before initiating violence.
-as for Kagome, this is way beyond a field discipline issue. We're not 'letting him off', we're kicking the decision up to our clan head and your hokage."
I disagree. There are far too many theoretical ways for Hazō to copy seals quickly for this information to be useful/damaging on its own. Perhaps he just has a perfect visual memory, or perhaps he can make ink patterns crawl off the page and onto his skin until he releases them onto another piece of paper. Whereas mist draining is a unique ability begging for the design of creative counters (or, as someone's pointed out, for attackers to focus fire on Noburi at the start of a battle).
You seem to be taking a really hard line on "Noburi's mist drain should be a secret and anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong".
You'll note that a lot of people in this thread are still somewhat ambivalent on the question. I think it's fair to ask whether that's because they have an insufficient understanding of the MFD ninja-world or whether it's a question where people in the ninja world might come up with legitimately different answers depending on how they weigh the costs and benefits. The secret of mist-drain was revealed to Minami in the context of making a low danger mission into a no danger mission. That mission on its own wouldn't justify the potential risk of it being a known technique among allies, but multiply one mission by a dozen where low risk is turned into no risk, and you might come up with a different answer.
The cost of the technique being more widely known is that it can be more easily countered by an enemy. The benefit if the technique being more widely known is that Noburi can freely use it to resolve more situations. There is a cost, and there is a benefit.
Now I have no trouble with Noburi being extremely furious about Hazou essentially taking the decision out of his hands. It's his ability; he (or maybe the new clan leadership) should have the right to weigh the costs and benefits of being more free with its use. Perfectly reasonable.
I guess I can buy Kagome reacting as he did on the grounds that he's paranoidly inclined to secret-keeping above all else, so of course there's only one right answer as far as he's concerned. But you would think he would at least have had a conversation with Noburi to check whether it was even supposed to still be a secret and maybe he missed a meeting or something. At least leaning down and going, "Wait, did we decide these stinkers can know about your Mist Drain?"
(shrug) Maybe he did do that, and Hazou wasn't privy to the conversation.
[-] Plan Clean Up The Mess
[-] Plan Soothe Minami
[-] Plan Secure Kagome
[-] Action Plan: Deescalate, explain, deescalate
Now that I've had some time to think, let me put forth my plan for dealing with the current mess. Comments and suggestions welcome!
First, what's our situation? Kagome has gone off the deep end, attempting to murder our lawful team leader, committing treason against Leaf and Team Uplift, for which he's totally unrepentant. This is the result of an inadvertent but serious infosec failure on Hazo's part. Keiko and Noburi are seriously angry at Hazo, but hopefully ready to work with him to deal with the Kagome issue--but we should expect to be called on the rug later. Akane, a non-clan ninja, might or might not be as angry at Hazo as Keiko and Noburi are; she hasn't grown up with the idea of clan secrets the way they have, nor did she see Minami salsa as she did in the pre-retcon version. Minami thinks that we're the Cold Stone Killers. Correction, we are the Cold Stone Killers, but Minami thinks that we're psychopathic (even by ninja standards) enemies that are likely to gut her just to check on the color of her liver. How do we get out of this fix?
I suggest that we have Hazo ask Minami for one minute--literally, one minute--of trust, then position himself with his back to her, facing Kagome. He is now visually defending her, as well as in a position where she can kill him if she wishes. This is meant to get her to calm down and not do something stupid within our one minute window.
Have Hazo give Lailoken's suggested speech to Minami. One tried to kill, three saved, you're not going to win a fight, please don't pull that kunai out, etc.
Next, Hazo needs to acknowledge his foul up and promise to accept whatever discipline Noburi and Jiraiya choose to mete out. Noburi because Vampiric Dew is his secret, Jiraiya as Clan Head. We need to take ownership of our foul up, accept responsibility and consequences.
Now, how do we deal with Kagome? Here are the facts--Kagome is beyond reason, absurdly powerful compared to everyone else here, and emotionally vulnerable. So we have to concentrate on his emotions to get him to submit to our will, not his reason, and certainly not attempt to fight him.
What is our will? In my view, we need to get him off the front lines and somewhere that he can be contained. The man is extremely dangerous, and if we narrowly dodged Minami salsa, we won't dodge the next disaster, or the one after that. So how do we get him to agree to this?
Next, address Kagome. Say something like this--Kagome, you're the most loyal friend and teacher I've ever known, and you've just betrayed this team. In attempting to murder Minami, your lawful team leader and a fellow Leaf ninja that has done nothing wrong, you have put all of us--Hazo, Noburi, Keiko, and Akane--in a terrible position, one that could lead to all of us dying. If that happens, Team Uplift is gone, Clan Jiraiya is gone, Hokage Jiraiya is gone, and it is possible that the other clan heads or the new Hokage will retract Mari-sensei's rehabilitation, killing her as a Mist missing-nin or simply turning her over to Mist. What you have done is betrayal, pure and simple. I know you didn't mean all this, but that's what you did. You have two choices. Either you agree to submit to Jiraiya's authority as Hokage and Clan Leader, or you go into exile. (Yes, I'm stealing this from pre-retcon Akane.) We won't fight you, if you choose to go we won't stop you, and we'll lie to Jiraiya for you, telling him that you died in action--but you can't stay with us, not on the front lines. All of this must be conditional on the on-the-spot approval of everyone present, particularly Keiko and Minami.
If he chooses to submit to Jiraiya, he has to know that this means that we will contact Jiraiya now via summons messenger and follow whatever course of action he directs.
Why are we saying that we'll lie to Jiraiya if Kagome wants to go into exile? Because if we don't, then Kagome will rightly see us as a threat and very likely attack us.
If he goes, we then negotiate with Minami, trying to come to a situation where, in Keiko's judgement, we can trust her to lie to Jiraiya with us. If she doesn't, then we've got no choice but to break our promise to Kagome, and simply hope that Jiraiya consents to cover it up rather than have Kagome hunted down as a missing-nin twice over. (Well, I guess the other choice is to kill Minami ourselves, but let's try really hard to avoid that, and only do it if Keiko believes that there is no other option, ok?)
So there you have it, folks, Plan Hard Choices. Again, comments and suggestions are welcome.
[X] Plan Hard Choices
BTW, @eaglejarl and @Velorien, does Counter Bot do a count every time I hit the vote tally button, or does it only do a count once in a while, and just report to me the results of its most recent count?
Adhoc vote count started by Raxner on May 22, 2017 at 1:23 PM, finished with 2 posts and 1 votes.
It was an OPSEC fuckup any way you slice it. There was nothing stopping us from just saying, "Hey, we can send a person to drop some proprietary seals through the roof and knock out everybody inside." It just fundamentally involved revealing far more information than strictly necessary.
Well, firstly, they won't necessarily know that unless he's already been promoted to their attention due to, say, having a unique and powerful bloodline ability. But more generally, this isn't Team Fortress. With the exception of badasses like Kabuto who can weaponise it, medical ninjutsu is something used outside of battle to diagnose, accelerate healing etc., not to provide an edge during the battle itself.
To be honest, it's more that I disagree with many of the individual arguments provided. There are a few others that have been convincing enough to shift my actual stance towards greater ambivalence.
Nah. You gank the mage first, the cleric can wait.
</not speaking as QM>
Well, D&D clerics have become so massively OP that you probably DO need to assess your targeting priorities carefully. Especially since clerics with the right domains can cast most mage spells.
Of course, fighting a high-level mage in D&D typically goes like this:
"I kill you from ambush!"
"Foresight, schmuck. No surprise round for you. Celerity. Quickened Maximized Time Stop. Greater arcane fusion: maximized, twinned, enlarged whirlwind of teeth. Maximized, twinned, repeated, empowered, enlarged whirlwind of teeth. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Resume time. You take 800 damage, reflex save for half."
"Gulp. Um...I have a lot of hit points so I'm still alive?"
"Look, do I really need to deliver the mail or can you just piss off and let me enjoy my croissant?"
Ideally, Minami will be left looking at the collective breakdown and unable to decide between killing everybody, or starting some sort of group hug. We put the "fun" in "dysfunctional".
I've previously said something along these lines before, and I'll add that I'm fairly certain that the worst possible thing we can do at this juncture is to act in a calm, collected, 'cold' manner. We need to break the 'Cold Stone Killers' impression Minami has of us, and also shock Kagome into actually listening.
[] Plan: Emotional Outburst
-Goals Emotional Context:
-- You are so damn tired of all this.
-- You don't want to kill your mentor.
-- You're pissed with yourself for breaking opsec again.
-- You're pissed at Kagome for creating this situation.
--- And for trying to murder someone.
--- And you're a bit pissed at Kagome, Keiko and Noburi for blaming you for all this, despite being able to see where they're coming from.
---- The fact that they have a point is feeding into your own anger at yourself. Try to keep that under control.
-- You're pissed at the world being such a fucked up place that you have to guard your words against even the team leader that your team leader and Hokage assigned you.
--- You're not sure how you feel about Jiraiya, but his word, and the fact that you're now a part of Leaf, should count for something
-Actions
-- Minami (Bargaining)
--- What should we do?
---- Kill our friend? My Sensei?
---- Exile him?
---- Please, give us some option.
---- Haven't you ever seen a 'high strung' Ninja before? (Our mom's term)
-- Kagome (Anger)
--- What. The. Fuck. Is. Wrong. With. You.
--- Setting aside the fact that killing an ally is wrong, the fallout from him succeeding would have been a million times worse than the damage the secret getting would have been.
--- Deciding to do this without consulting the team, because he knew we wouldn't approve, makes this a personal betrayal.
--- If he keeps this up, he's going to get the whole team killed, or worse. And he knows what sorts of worse are available.
--- He said he wasn't tactically broken, but this is the exact sort of situation that shows that he is.
-- Noburi/Keiko (Exhaustion, defeat)
--- Sorry for betraying Noburi's trust and fucking things up again.
--- If it's going to be constant paranoia from here on out, what the point (of anything)?
-- Akane (despair)
--- Sorry for getting the team kicked out of Leaf.
--- Sorry for fucking things up again.
-- Everyone
--- What do we do now?
I've previously said something along these lines before, and I'll add that I'm fairly certain that the worst possible thing we can do at this juncture is to act in a calm, collected, 'cold' manner. We need to break the 'Cold Stone Killers' impression Minami has of us, and also shock Kagome into actually listening.
[] Plan: Emotional Outburst
-Goals Emotional Context:
-- You are so damn tired of all this.
-- You don't want to kill your mentor.
-- You're pissed with yourself for breaking opsec again.
-- You're pissed at Kagome for creating this situation.
--- And for trying to murder someone.
--- And you're a bit pissed at Kagome, Keiko and Noburi for blaming you for all this, despite being able to see where they're coming from.
---- The fact that they have a point is feeding into your own anger at yourself. Try to keep that under control.
-- You're pissed at the world being such a fucked up place that you have to guard your words against even the team leader that your team leader and Hokage assigned you.
--- You're not sure how you feel about Jiyahara, but his word, and the fact that you're now a part of Leaf, should count for something
-Actions
-- Minami (Bargaining)
--- What should we do?
---- Kill our friend? My Sensei?
---- Exile him?
---- Please, give us some option.
---- Haven't you ever seen a 'high strung' Ninja before? (Our mom's term)
-- Kagome (Anger)
--- What. The. Fuck. Is. Wrong. With. You.
--- Setting aside the fact that killing an ally is wrong, the fallout from him succeeding would have been a million times worse than the damage the secret getting would have been.
--- Deciding to do this without consulting the team, because he knew we wouldn't approve, makes this a personal betrayal.
--- If he keeps this up, he's going to get the whole team killed, or worse. And he knows what sorts of worse are available.
--- He said he wasn't tactically broken, but this is the exact sort of situation that shows that he is.
-- Noburi/Keiko (Exhaustion, defeat)
--- Sorry for betraying Noburi's trust and fucking things up again.
--- If it's going to be constant paranoia from here on out, what the point (of anything)?
-- Akane (despair)
--- Sorry for getting the team kicked out of Leaf.
--- Sorry for fucking things up again.
-- Everyone
--- What do we do now?
Hm... I think that needs a combat analysis. I'm going to pare it down to two combatants on each side.(Unfortunately, I suspect that my intuition here will be wildly inaccurate, because I'm using League of Legends bottom-lane dynamics as my primary reference point.)
Combat/Medic(balanced team) Vs Combat*2(offense team)
Do both combat specs team up against the other combat spec, only lightly focusing on the medic until they manage an overwhelming victory and focusing their skills on the medic? Maybe, unless the medic has some sort of insane mid-combat assisted-healing/buff ability. In that case while the medic might have ~half the personal combat strength of the average combat spec, if they can put their teammate at 1.5 times(or more) combat strength, then the combat spec on team balance is a significant threat that might be able to take out one of the enemy combat specs while they try to focus the medic, and even if they get the medic, he might still have enough power to take out the other combat spec.
Combat/Medic Vs Combat/Medic
This actually depends strongly on the type of medics, and the utility they can bring to the battlefield, I think. You can't just assume combat vs combat and medic vs medic; that doesn't match how fights tend to go. If they manage to start out like that and one half is winning, but their other half isn't - the winning half will interfere on the other, because giving up a bit of short term advantage in their personal fight is worth the long term advantage of having a teammate help them back.
Anyway, instead of two 1v1s, a fight between two com/med teams will devolve into all-out brawls as the medics each try to use their skills to tilt the fight in their favour as the to combat specs go ham at each other while focusing on positioning and trying to land stray attacks on the enemy medic to reduce their ability to help their combat spec.
...
I, uh. Wrote this almost instantly after waking up. I'm gonna go through my morning routine and come back and see how coherent this is.
But more generally, this isn't Team Fortress. With the exception of badasses like Kabuto who can weaponise it, medical ninjutsu is something used outside of battle to diagnose, accelerate healing etc., not to provide an edge during the battle itself.
The man is the world's greatest spymaster. There is no credible hope that we can lie to him. -not much reason to, either, since Kagome will almost certainly take death over exile judging by what we saw in the first draft.
-anyway, we already have an appropriate field patch for this- the struggle session Mari put Hazou through. Both Kagome and Hazou will have to go through one for this mess, and that's where we'll be making things absolutely crystal clear for him. The problem is getting everybody to put their weapons down long enough to get to that point. Let's plan for the next ten seconds, with a stretch goal of the next five minutes.
Honestly I could not really conceive of a combat situation where Noburi would not be using mist drain. I mean I guess you could keep it secret from enemies by never leaving anyone alive. Though that doesn't keep Minami from figuring it out eventually.
That first one is how ninja traditionally handle their trump cards. As for Minami, not necessarily - chakra drain isn't obvious unless someone actually passes out from it, as @Traiden points out there are good tactical reasons to use misterators anyway, it's uncertain how many battles Minami is going to participate in alongside Noburi (your brief was to avoid engagements as much as possible), and the team doesn't really have a good grasp on her analytical abilities yet.
Approximately what I want to tell Kagome (presented w/o any consideration of OPSEC, the reactions of others, or style):
Kagome, you need to understand. You don't live in the woods anymore. You're not on the run with a group of missing nin anymore. We finally have a home, support, resources. Hell, we're a family now. If you end up killing someone who you shouldn't have, we lose all of that. We stop being an asset to Jiraiya and start being a burden. And at best we all end up dead in a regrettable accident. At worst, you and I end up in a seal factory for the rest of our lives, inches away from gibbering madness.
No, you can't protect us from that either. Jiraiya could easily kill you, no matter the protection you try to provide. For that matter, so can many other leaf nin.
You knew this was wrong, otherwise you wouldn't have tried to hide it from us. There is a reason you've learned to trust our judgement, especially around other people. We know you want to keep us safe, but sometimes, especially when others are involved, you have to learn to trust our judgement, at least until you become comfortable living around others again.
This squish first, ask questions later attitude will mean we have to give up the single best thing that has ever happened to us.
So, as I see it, you have two choices:
First, leave. Go back to the woods, where you can explode any living that gets near you. I'll even try to visit but, at best, it would means months without seeing any of us.
Second, you can learn to be more trusting and less trigger happy. You just attempted to murder your commanding officer. This is the sort of thing that ninja are killed for. We'll keep that from happening to you, but when we get back to Leaf we're going to have to tell Jiraiya. In all probability, you'll be put under house arrest or something similar for a while, at least until we can trust you to be around people who aren't in the team.
In the meantime, we need to make sure you cannot do this again. This means that at night, you sleep in your own skytower, close to our own, but outside it.
Likewise, you will always follow any orders given to you by Minami.
Outside of a direct combat situation, you will ask one of us before using any seals, explosive or otherwise. If given permission to use seals, you will only use them for the specific task you have been granted leave to do with seals.
If you try to skirt these rules, either the letter or the spirit, we'll be forced to conclude you're choosing the first option, and will continue the mission without you. If we do then you should go to <some known location far away from other people, but in Leaf> and we'll come by when we finish to discuss options for where outside of Konoha you can live in peace.
You're not getting any second chances Kagome. We want to keep you with us and we love you dearly, but we cannot live if we have to constantly make sure that you're not blowing up someone you're not supposed to.
The man is the world's greatest spymaster. There is no credible hope that we can lie to him. -not much reason to, either, since Kagome will almost certainly take death over exile judging by what we saw in the first draft.
That is an excellent point, and you're probably right. Nevertheless, we have to say it to Kagome because otherwise we are telling him "if you run, we'll sic Leaf on you," and he might decide to kill us rather than take that risk.
Yes, in pre-retcon he didn't seem to be taking that route, but I'm not prepared to take the gamble that he won't go there this time.
