Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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By using the information about Arikada's route to take her out while she was distracted, instead of having to rely on incomplete information to stage an ambush.
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- The Deep Blue Sea
This line is sort of the distilled essence of the quest, to a large extent
i seem to recall that the requirement was them being equidistant from the central seal, rather than in plane?
Yaaaay my Hidden Heaven planning did something!
Re: rolls, we got really lucky w.r.t timing, positioning, and that awareness roll. Holy hell, beat it by seven points.
Jello_Raptor
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So a few questions.
- Where is Arikada going? Can we see her?
- Is it a ballistic path? What angle did she launch at?
- Do we see evidence of her maneuver in midair?
- Is her movement a cast from HP spell? Are her legs gone?
Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
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Aaaaand, she's wearing a flesh suit.
Basically powerarmor.
Yep, looks like we're going to have to use Noburi. Have we considered using our Platforms to take Noburi up into a cloud, and make a rainstorm? It's gotta be better than mist for draining.
Basically powerarmor.
Yep, looks like we're going to have to use Noburi. Have we considered using our Platforms to take Noburi up into a cloud, and make a rainstorm? It's gotta be better than mist for draining.
Jello_Raptor
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- Left of Center
Seriously though, we need to get eyes on her as fast as possible. She's got tons of options right now, and that's if the only thing she's got left up her sleeves right now is henge 10.
Also she has some way to survive the acceleration from the Orion project writ small she just used, which is scary in itself.
Also we need to get eyes on the crater quickly. It's shape should tell us direction of explosion, whether the blast was consecrated in one axis, and the mode of effect. That should give us information on likely distance, direction, and capabilities of her seals. (assuming a ballistic path)
Also she has some way to survive the acceleration from the Orion project writ small she just used, which is scary in itself.
Also we need to get eyes on the crater quickly. It's shape should tell us direction of explosion, whether the blast was consecrated in one axis, and the mode of effect. That should give us information on likely distance, direction, and capabilities of her seals. (assuming a ballistic path)
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Jello_Raptor
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- Left of Center
... Oh. Oops.
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- floating away
Does that mean she's legless for now? That would be way to good to be true. She's getting new transportation asap somehow, I know it.
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You saw her launch and it looked ballistic. You lost sight of her in the mist but you heard her land. You have no reason to believe she maneuvered.
Her legs were not gone, no. They were each about eighteen inches thick at the thigh before the explosion, and about ten inches afterwards.
Jello_Raptor
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Ah, that's support for both the power armor and direct conversion of fat into momentum hypotheses. Though there might be other possibilities.
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@eaglejarl How far has the mist spread? How fat are Arikada's arms (and other body parts like her torso and head)? Was Noburi able to start draining? Can he tell us more detail via Vampiric Dew on Arikada's positioning/movements or do we have to write it in the plan?
*pokes head out from cover*
We're alive?
Okay so that went much better than expected. I really thought we were headed for character death.
Also, Maybe-Orochimaru has waaaay fewer deception dice than our last encounter with him led us to believe.
We're alive?
Okay so that went much better than expected. I really thought we were headed for character death.
Also, Maybe-Orochimaru has waaaay fewer deception dice than our last encounter with him led us to believe.
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I am having a bit of trouble visualizing this.
First off, holy hell I can't believe that Hidden Heaven is actually possible! This is super duper clever of us, and pretty huge for our group. Reminds me that we should think about trading seals to Jiraiya. He already 100% knows that Hazou and Kagome are sealmaster. Part of me just really wants a scene with Jiraiya getting into in-depth sealing discussions with The Mad Bombers, and Kagome being extremely impressed and actually improving his own ability.
Note: the rolls said that she wasn't boosting to save chakra for Panchipaama.
My one great regret of this update was that we didn't use the PMYF "Fists of the Flying Earth God" to smash the guards without Arikada getting caught in a blast. As long as she isn't in the line of fire of the rock/log, she won't get hit, and that would've absolutely killed the guard.
GOTTA GO FAST.
Jesus, Inoue. ~40 fricking Taijutsu dice? Isn't there a small upper limit on how much you can chakra boost one action? What have her past Tai rolls been?
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Not the time, let's focus on the result rather than the method and work to counter her other tricks with the information we do have. She(if such labels have any meaning to her at this point) can send things out at ballistic speeds with enough force to lift a body into the air, we need to be very aware of her focus as that is really easy to use as a weapon.
Our firing style should incorporate circular movements and deflections to minimize risk of parts of her body being launched at us. No attack should be used to draw blood, I would rather us get cut if it stops her from spilling her own blood intentionally.
Our firing style should incorporate circular movements and deflections to minimize risk of parts of her body being launched at us. No attack should be used to draw blood, I would rather us get cut if it stops her from spilling her own blood intentionally.
On the topic of "things Arikada can do", the dice list an attack called "cortex bomb", which frankly sounds terrifying.
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- The Deep Blue Sea
*slams table* INSTANT HEADCANON.
This is the perfect time to try out that PMYF-based movement scheme we'd tried to figure out back in the forest of Fire! Doing the math I think we can actually pull it off if Hazou can put up a MEW kawarimi-assistance wall several dozen yards downrange to get around the 3m-jumping issue.
@eaglejarl @Velorien is MEW line-of-sight castable, and does Hazou need to be within a certain distance of the ground to use it?
Need to throw a PMYF kunai such that it will release its cargo within 3m of the ground within 80m of the thrower, on an upward trajectory (i.e. not after coming back down), and in sufficient time for us to sub with the target.
Given a 100mph kunai throw (chosen arbitrarily because it's roughly an MLB fastball), and converting that to Sanity Units, and then doing some geometry, we get:
44.7 m/s travels 80m in roughly 1.79 seconds. That seems like a fairly generous window given ninja reflexes - set the PMYF timer for 1 second, throw, sub when you see it appear.
Since the throw starts roughly 1.5m off the ground, it can only ascend a maximum of 1.5 more meters (assuming there isn't a convenient tree or hill roughly 80m away), meaning arcisn(80/(1.5) gives the angle of the throw: 1.07435882 degrees, very nearly horizontal. Crouching to throw from 0.5m improves this ever so slightly to 1.79078466 degrees. STRONGLY RECOMMEND REPOSITIONING TO PUT A TREE OR HILL NEAR EDGE OF SUB RANGE.
initial Vy = 44.7 * [sin(~1.791) = 0.03125] = 1.396875 m/s (not very much!)
V = Vyi - 9.8m/s*t0/2 = 0; t0 = 1.396875/9.8; t_tot = 2*t0 = 0.285076531s total before we're once again just .5m off the ground, and travelling at just under 100mph to boot (minus air resistance).
How high an assist do we need to be able to leap a reasonable difference? That's the question.
Given a 100mph kunai throw (chosen arbitrarily because it's roughly an MLB fastball), and converting that to Sanity Units, and then doing some geometry, we get:
44.7 m/s travels 80m in roughly 1.79 seconds. That seems like a fairly generous window given ninja reflexes - set the PMYF timer for 1 second, throw, sub when you see it appear.
Since the throw starts roughly 1.5m off the ground, it can only ascend a maximum of 1.5 more meters (assuming there isn't a convenient tree or hill roughly 80m away), meaning arcisn(80/(1.5) gives the angle of the throw: 1.07435882 degrees, very nearly horizontal. Crouching to throw from 0.5m improves this ever so slightly to 1.79078466 degrees. STRONGLY RECOMMEND REPOSITIONING TO PUT A TREE OR HILL NEAR EDGE OF SUB RANGE.
initial Vy = 44.7 * [sin(~1.791) = 0.03125] = 1.396875 m/s (not very much!)
V = Vyi - 9.8m/s*t0/2 = 0; t0 = 1.396875/9.8; t_tot = 2*t0 = 0.285076531s total before we're once again just .5m off the ground, and travelling at just under 100mph to boot (minus air resistance).
How high an assist do we need to be able to leap a reasonable difference? That's the question.
Those little pretties are one of my favorite bits of the Shadowrun universe
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And are there bits of them left behind, which we should immediately run the hell away from since they'll probably explode or dissolve into chakra-eating bacteria? @eaglejarl @Velorien
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- floating away
According to anydice, the probability of her getting at least 1957 is 0.24% for 30 dice, 13.48% for 35 dice, and 63.55% for 40 dice. So she could still be around as low as ~34-35 taijutsu dice boosted with this sort of roll, depending on just how lucky she got.
Those little pretties are one of my favorite bits of the Shadowrun universe
That's a thing?
*looks it up*
Ah.
So we probably don't have to worry about any more of them then.
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I don't think Arikada can blow people up with her mind. She didn't explode Inoue-sensei even though Arikada should have had clear LOS to blow her up. It's far more likely she infected her guards with a Bonesaw-plague or has Kagome's hand shaped charges than choosing to blow up the area next to Inoue-sensei OVER Inoue-sensei herself. Though Inoue-sensei was actually there, so she's probably better-suited for the judgement call on this.
Mentioning Bonesaw, we should really make sure to get Noburi to look us over, if he survives, before making contact with any other humans.
We're possibly already infected with five dozen different things that we don't want to spread around the population.
We're possibly already infected with five dozen different things that we don't want to spread around the population.
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So possible way for us to do the same sort of thing as what she did is to have a chakra seal that reacts to the presence of 0 chakra to activate. The only innovation shown to us so far is the part where it is inside a person. This could be a method of verbal attack to get the target to use up her more exotic seals in a more predictable and thus we would be able to react better. We should weaponize a Kagome rant to get under her skin. That is an unfortunate turn off phrase when dealing with a bio-seal master.
