Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
thanks, and *please* remove either remove the tactically-unnecessary ES use(which can go in the next plan) or spend the wordcount to give Hazou some basic guidance/instruction on making peaceful contact with the cave.
Spector29
It Only Gets Worse From Here
Hm. A different kind of quest would have me question exactly how closely Shadow Clones mimic the human body's ancillary processes. The idea that Shadow Clones could even be fertile at all is medically fascinating.
A seahorse bioseal, meanwhile, seems silly. A whole bunch of bioengineering would be required to make it work, and it probably would still be as dangerous as a normal birth. A much better idea is a bioseal that massively improves both the efficiency and safety of the normal birth mechanisms. Or perhaps a bioseal-sealing scroll hybrid to invent In-Vitro Fertilization...
On second thought, a bioseal that would allow same-sex couples to conceive children would do good. Although M-M couples might need additional engineering support since I can't imagine a YY baby going well.
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Eisenhelm
gran dutch of douchery
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- Colombia
Out of the question, rumors are bad enough about who has whose baby already, we don't want to see how they escalate if we start introducing non-dimentional seals.
Noumero
Omit Needless Words
It's exactly according to Ami's plan. As she was starting her session of thinking out loud, she'd noted the following:
In this case, the medium by which she was transferring her apparent message was instrumentalized for the purposes of leaving Hazou and Snowflake an excuse to converse one-to-one, without Ami's meddling (which would be off-puttingly uncharacteristic for her to refrain from otherwise, unless there's a clearly visible distraction). After all, it is doubtlessly not a coincidence that she chose to present her thought process in the form of drawn-out, droning, impossible-to-engage-with speculation. She could've summarized it, or made Hazou and Snowflake active participants – or, indeed, didn't have it out loud at all, as that would involve leaking data about her thought processes and any possible flaws in them and her knowledge for all the world to hear!
So why did she do it the way she did? Well, the meaning of this was her essentially checking out of the conversation. Hazou tuning her out was a natural and predictable end result. And while him and Snowflake tuned her out, they had a conversation sorting out their feelings and mutual standing – something Snowflake needs much more, at the date's start, than Ami.
But of course, that's only the first non-literal layer of her actions in that scene: the momentary social-landscape engineering. We mustn't fail to account for the message itself – informational-warfare angle, with her doubtlessly peppering her apparent speculations with tactical misdirections regarding how she thinks and what she knows (rather than actually leaking real data about her internal processes (except for the true data she genuinely opted to leak for the purposes of cultivating mutual knowledge and familiarity with Hazou and Snowflake, using the pretense of rambling out loud to convey information about herself to them she'd feel too awkward and vulnerable to convey openly)) – as well as what being taken out of the conversation does for her (namely, giving her the opportunity to gather data on Hazou and Snowflake's interactions while they believe themselves to be in relative privacy). In addition, we have to account for what message she's choosing to send Hazou and Snowflake by apparently getting distracted by Mari at the very start of...
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
@Velorien
A lovely interlude. Spoons low after work (blerg), but this made me smile, and it helped. Scattershot thoughts/navel gazing...
A lovely interlude. Spoons low after work (blerg), but this made me smile, and it helped. Scattershot thoughts/navel gazing...
- If Ami was precisely on time, and Hazō arrived after, then he was late (even if by, like, 30 seconds). That he was late to a personal affair isn't surprising, because our clan is a barrel of unending chaos. Presumably, Hazō manages his time just fine for professional duties, so the fact that he was late (however minorly) is actually a positive note. It means he categorized this as a personal indulgence (something that Hazō-the-character is very rare to do) rather than a duty.
- Ami (almost) certainly didn't actually intend on getting lost in the infinite recursive "I know that you know that I know that..." from Mari. She was just allowing Hazō and Snowflake a moment of privacy while stretching her mind to decipher the hidden messages (a good rule, from Ami's pov, might be "Mari intends every single message I can decrypt, plus three that I cannot.")
- Ami calling out the accidental subtext from Snowflake is both amusing and endearing. If they form a stable polycule with Hazō, I could see Ami playing the part of the "begrudging translator" for Snowflake's hidden messages while also serving as a grounding influence to keep Snowflake from going too far into the "communicating thoughts and feelings indirectly" field with Hazō the "Snowflake totally wanted to experiment with my body in a nonromantic way."
- Vaguely amused at Snowflake seeming to say "It would not be something I, myself, desire, but I'm also not willing to unilaterally rule the notion out, should this be something that you desire." The thought is sweet and endearing, and it was delivered via some wholesome/amusing phrasing.
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- Can’t say. I know my momentum.
Live reaction post. Kinda long, so I'm spoilering it.
When If we end up dating Ami, we'll be dating two of our sisters. Lol.
Oh, one of these?
Hoo boy. Hazō's in for it now!
True that.
And now, the moment we've all been waiting for — the beginning of the Hazō and Snowflake's relationship! (Too bad it's a Future Interlude (AU?).)
*snerk* Also, fair.
Uh... wow. My Vision is... uh... quite something.
Very Ami of her.
I just realized: anyone who sees them will assume that Hazō is dating both Kei and Ami. I see no way in which this could end poorly.
Hazō is Compelled: Open Mouth, Insert Foot!
Ah, those poor sods living ordinary, boring lives.
Things are not getting any better or easier are they?
Because of course Mari's fashion advice would be something along those lines. What was I expecting?
This does not bode well.
Only Kei/Snowflake could use that many words to convey absolutely no information (more or less).
Yes.
Note to self: do not mess with a sleeping Shikamaru.
My brain was just like "Wat".
Yup.
Too late. I see no way for a date with Ami to be simple.
SHOW US!! I MUST SEE IT! Also, what consequences?
Nice. Another Yabai Café date would get kinda repetitive.
That instinct runs deep.
Ooh boy.
Oh shoot! I forgot: Ami can't cook! LOL!
Aww, whaat?! Will you write the rest of the date eventually?
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- UK
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I was going to do the cooking competition itself today, but ran out of spoons.
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- Can’t say. I know my momentum.
At this point, this is that kind of quest...
Thanks for the analysis.
Understandable. I'm just glad that I'll get to read it someday.
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- North Wales
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- He/Him/His
Presumably the shape of this rune when viewed from a distance is a three-dimensional ^_^
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- UK
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- He/Him
HAZŌ: But which ^ is the one pointing to her location?
ACS Rune: Yes.
HAZŌ: Why did I even bother asking?
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
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- Washington, USA
Parallax between them indicates distance. Hard part of the design is working out spatial shenanigans which allow it to flex that much without cracking the runic substrate.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
Give us utility techniques. Find some clan that has wind element "take no fall damage" techniques and we can drop air-dome-less skywalkers from the research agenda.
Utility is, as we all know, the root of munchkinry, that which we all hold dear.
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- Europe
We can buy/comission a Toad or even Pangolin ninjutsu creator for that. Unless it's has to be a human for the exact specifications that you want.
But even then everyone has to learn the wind element.
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Or just make a seal for it
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- USA
Prep day results from Chapter 666 have been edited into the chapter.
As a reminder, all of these results are based on Hazō's Primordial Sealing score at the time, which was 44 (base 19).
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- Yes.
This is amazing; we neatly bypass the long activation issue of runes with a relatively minor increase in difficulty. We should, after researching runes of interest, immediately take the time to install a seal-activation trigger condition version of said rune; or go straight to researching that variant if we can.
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
If we really want to optimize this, we could have the landmine trigger from "sufficient force" which we apply by attaching an explosive seal to it which we activate with ARS. Activation from a distance, from just a supplemental, using the activation condition Hazou singled out to us as the easiest.
But what has me interested is the remote explosion rune, because if the range is good enough we can set up a near-arbitrary number of these runes well away from the battlefield, hook them all up to runic ARS activators, and then detonate dozens of runic explosions all at once all over the rift site. Not to mention, if you can do this with explosives, who's to say we can't do it with other runes that might be helpful in the alpha strike? Maybe we could put up a remote runic Air Dome alongside the explosions, to stall them just long enough for all the explosives to go off.
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Runic explosives, or runic Goo Bombs, or runic [esoteric effect]...yeah, it's a potential wincon that solves the "deliver payload to location" issue. Only concern I'd have is the prep it would take to set them up, since ideally the rune's detonation Zone would be exactly where Akatsuki is to maximize the TN needed to survive a roll.
I think the remote detonation seal should be our immediate research path for both offensive and defensive research, with remote explosions as our offensive path and Force Domes as our defensive path. Set SSA on landmines (veterancy) and Force Domes, and non-SSA on remote detonation seals, then research landmine versions of the Force Domes and remote detonation seals as they get completed.
Alternatively we just research remote Superchiller runes and just lmao the planet.
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- Washington, USA
Could we make a reusable remote directional explosive, and link it to a runic air dome so it retaliates against attempts to break through the dome?
IMO we should do TR 150, the cost-benefit says yes right now. Getting exciting results from these prep days doesn't change that
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I'm not sure we can do TN150; the Explosiver Rune (TN 130) was a "Hazou can maybe do this rune".
Yes yes I know prep days but I already predict that TN150 is going to be "Hazou thinks this rune is beyond his capabilities".