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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Sir Stompy said:
@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped

What's the process for Clans assigning their own missions?

If we want to take all of Modern Uplift on a Scroll Hunt what exact legal process do we need to go through?

Can we avoid Naruto's personal approval and just take this through a lower Tower clerk?
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Typically, clans may select missions at their leisure and define reasonable missions for their own members. Reasonable here means that the mission doesn't compromise Leaf's military readiness. The Hokage rarely disapproves of such missions, as most in-clan missions only tie up 2-4 members of a clan and stay within the Land of Fire.

If you wanted to take all of modern Uplift (Hazou, Kei, Noburi, Mari, Kagome, Yuno) on a scroll hunt, you'd need to request a mission to hunt the scroll, listing these people as specific members of the mission.

Given that this mission assigns a (self-proclaimed elite) jounin, two special jounin of highly valuable specializations, three chuunin, four summoners, three shadow clone-users, three Bloodline Limit users (including one whose bloodline turns those aforementioned summoners and shadow clone-users from tactical powerhouses into a force that could easily wipe fortified cities off the map), two of the village's top sealmasters, a damn good medic, a key village leadership figure, and the entire senior membership of a notably unstable clan, there is approximately 0 chance that any Tower clerk approves this mission on their own. Fortunately, there are two dozen Narutos that are usually out and about who could give their approval/disapproval.
 
Sir Stompy said:
I don't think he'll do this. Like yeah he sucks, he's a man-child. Classie essie/S-wanker.

But he prides himself on being a "statesman" I don't think he'll torture a bunch of civvies out of frustration. Also while Naruto is breathing down his neck the whole time.
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Though it wouldn't surprise me that much if he did torture some of them, especially at the beginning when going after ninja higher-up in the Goketsu totem pole, I'd imagine Itachi would do something more akin to Hidan Hidan'ing a village.

As for Naruto...I am uncertain he is willing to poke the AMITY bear when it's turned against him.
 
faflec said:
Though it wouldn't surprise me that much if he did torture some of them, especially at the beginning when going after ninja higher-up in the Goketsu totem pole, I'd imagine Itachi would do something more akin to Hidan Hidan'ing a village.

As for Naruto...I am uncertain he is willing to poke the AMITY bear when it's turned against him.
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Naruto is fully in his rights to defend his citizens from unlawful essie intrusion. I'm not saying he'll necessarily do it, but unless Hazou has violated AMITY, there's no way Itachi will have AMITY's backing to do this.

If we destroy/steal the Rift? Yeah I could see retaliation, but not before we do so.
 
Sir Stompy said:
Naruto is fully in his rights to defend his citizens from unlawful essie intrusion. I'm not saying he'll necessarily do it, but unless Hazou has violated AMITY, there's no way Itachi will have AMITY's backing to do this.

If we destroy/steal the Rift? Yeah I could see retaliation, but not before we do so.
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Why wouldn't Akatsuki back Itachi over Konoha?
 
[X][MissingWhen] I want to go missing but not until certain things have happened
[X][MissingWhen] I haven't decided if I want to go missing

This combination to basically mean I'd be willing to go missing only if steps are taking to minimize emotional damage. With that in mind

[X][MissingWho] OG team uplift plus loved ones (Hazo, Mari, Noburi, Kei, Kagome + one possible nomination each)

Its a tough choice, with a lot of complicated feelings and a really difficult opsec situation no matter what people choose to do. But I'd like to give them the option, else resentment and other negative feelings might seriously affect the mission. And possibly my enjoyment of the quest.

[X][MissingHow] Take a long-term mission so that we are expected to be out of Leaf for a few weeks / months, then don't come back
[X][MissingHow] Take a long-term mission so that we are expected to be out of Leaf for a few weeks / months, then briefly come back and leave on another mission. Eventually, just don't come back.

Coming back and leaving again on multiple long term missions has good potential. Very unlikely we'd have Akatsuki sitting in leaf waiting for us. It really depends on how things play out with our other preparations. Might be better to just get gone though, or at least safer.

I have no major opinion on the Orochimaru operation. Seems risky, but then again so is keeping Hidan's blood tracking on us. How we've heard it works is clearly not the whole story. Either way we get an essie playing around with Hazo's insides. Who do we trust least?

Feeling kinda late to this and missed out on lots of conversation. I'll catch up when I'm home.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Twinnstars on Apr 9, 2024 at 10:42 PM, finished with 100 posts and 37 votes.
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[X][MissingWho] Modern Team Uplift + Reo (TH) (Hazō, Kagome, Mari, Kei, Noburi, Yuno Reo the Gōketsu TH teacher)

@T_of_A @Egg Shavings yo your voted weren't getting counted either. Might want to do this vote as well
 
Sir Stompy said:
AMITY isn't Akatsuki, it's all other major villages + Akatsuki
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The two most powerful of the major villages rn are our enemies. Sand is a minor village at this point and Mist is more of an ally in the sense that our past interest aligns. Our relation with the minor villages are hardly close IIRC and they are unlikely to side with us.

So in short; We have a group of uber power S-rankers against us, two of the most powerful major villages and we have....Sand.
 
Sir Stompy said:
AMITY isn't Akatsuki, it's all other major villages + Akatsuki
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And we are, as EJ recently reminded us when we asked him whether us being missing would provide Konoha protection from our actions, playing a game of realpolitik.

They'll back Akatsuki if it is in their interests, regardless of what the letter of the law is. They certainly weren't willing to fight Akatsuki when Hidan killed a bunch of citizens in a random village of a signatory.
 
It's a game of exploding chicken, no one is eager to test the limits because no one knows how it'll play out. So most people are gonna play it safe.
 
Adhoc vote count started by eaglejarl on Apr 9, 2024 at 11:15 PM, finished with 101 posts and 37 votes.
[missingwhen] [missinghow] [missingwho] [orochimaruprocess] Default
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@Twinnstars If you set 'Divide votes by' to 'Task' you'll get this nice tabbed interface where the various tags get split out to make for easy comparison. Thanks for running yours, because it reminded me to do this.

Takeaways as of this post:


10 people for "Do not leave"
18 people for "Leave immediately"
18 people for "Leave but not until certain things are done"
(Weirdly, there's heavy overlap between the last two despite them probably being contradictory...?)


Overwhelming agreement on "if we go then take a long mission and don't come back".


Overwhelming agreement on "Modern Team Uplift" for who to bring with.


Close split on whether or not to let Orochimaru fix your blood to break Hidan's current tracking lock.
 
Hidan was not even slightly worried when he took us to slaughter one of Leaf's villages. Then again, he did nearly destroy AMITY not long afterward….
 
eaglejarl said:
Takeaways as of this post:


10 people for "Do not leave"
18 people for "Leave immediately"
18 people for "Leave but not until certain things are done"
(Weirdly, there's heavy overlap between the last two despite them probably being contradictory...?)
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It's probably because people are voting for "leave" more so than "leave now" or "leave after doing XYZ".
 
faflec said:
It's probably because people are voting for "leave" more so than "leave now" or "leave after doing XYZ".
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Also because I would like for us to do the things I want to do before leaving within the next couple days

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Hidan was not even slightly worried when he took us to slaughter one of Leaf's villages. Then again, he did nearly destroy AMITY not long afterward….
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no one cares about people outside of village walls
 
Makes me wonder what would happen if there was a "Leave, but only if certain preparations are successful" option. Like, if Cannai refused to help us, how many people would still want to leave?

Then again, that's a pretty broad application and I'm not sure it would be a accurate representation of hivemind preferences.
 
[X][MissingWhen] Narratively I'd prefer to not go missing, but I think we need more information before making a decision.

I'm still very leery of the belief that the toad will still be on our side after we defect. We can lie and tell them that Naruto is ok with it, but they will eventually be able to check on that.

[X][MissingHow] Take a long-term mission so that we are expected to be out of Leaf for a few weeks / months, then don't come back

[X][MissingWho] Modern Team Uplift (Hazō, Kagome, Mari, Kei, Noburi, Yuno)

The two considerations for who we leave behind are: who can we leave and have Akatsuki not kill, and who all do we need to leave to prevent the Goketsu from collapsing. A lot of civilians and several important projects are dependent on us, and I'd rather not just have all that implode.

[X][OrochimaruProcess] Do not have Orochimaru do the bioseal process that will break Hidan's current tracking lock on Hazō

Honestly, I'd like to do this. We'd have to explain why, which I think inevitably leads to him finding out about the portal.

Alternately, why don't we just tell him about the portal? Like us, he also really doesn't want Pain and Akatsuki to be unkillable, and it doesn't seem like it would alter his abilities that much (Hazou knows he came back from complete body destruction at the Nagi island battle). Given we can interact with him, know where he is at any given time (at least to the extent of in-konohana, not-in-konohana), and he's only one person, he's probably easier to work around or kill than Akatsuki.
 
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