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Kagome: relatable!
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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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Have you ever had independent confirmation that the reason he fled the village was because of a mission going wrong?
Hell, we don't even know his nation of origin. He was born in Lightning, but that's not the same, especially when talking about children conscripted to a secret sealing service happy to murder them if they get out of line.
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Y'know? As long as we're going to be working with a global coalition including Sand, Grandmaster F, Orochimaru and Akatsuki to save the world, we might look into gifting Snowflake her own permanent corporeal form. Some combination of puppetry and Impure World Reincarnation should do it.
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I was proposing a perpetually running Yamanaka Mind Transfer technique as easier to kick-start. It would also be pretty cool if uncle Oro would provide a Keiko clone for Snowflake to inhabit, but we can start by testing it on Earth Clones or whatever.
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he's been doing some reading since then
Weren't they standardizing numbers or something?
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he's been doing some reading since then
Weren't they standardizing numbers or something?
I think those were the boostboot seals, but I'ld have to reread the chapter where she was freaking out about the cat doll gift.
Hey, that's an idea. Is there anyway we could just throw Fifi into the dragon domain? The problem would be solved overnight. It would probably create new problems, but those are concerns for future-us.
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- The state of Paranoia
Fifi becoming ruler of the dragons is not exactly what I would consider a solution to the problem.
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail I wanted to ask you guys if Hazou has ever heard of anyone wrapping an explosive tag around a hunk of metal to increase the lethal radius of the tag? Assuming explosive tags work like high explosives IRL we could vastly increase the effective killing range by adding a bit of fragmentation to the tags.
For example, the M67 hand grenade has an injury radius of 15m and a fatality radius of 5m. It has a filling weight of 180g of Composition B. However, according to this damage calculator, 180 g of plain Composition B without fragmentation has a fatal distance of 1.3m and an injury radius of 5m.
If applicable to MfD this is huge news, the explosive seal has been optimized for centuries, this would be a drastic step up in effectiveness for a tiny cost. We know that regular smiths can cast iron. So making dozens or even hundreds of frag shells in a day would be possible.
We could start by prototyping hollow iron shells and wrapping explosive tags around them, it would take a bit of experimentation to get perfect, but it wouldn't be that hard to optimize. We can offscreen most of the work.
For example, the M67 hand grenade has an injury radius of 15m and a fatality radius of 5m. It has a filling weight of 180g of Composition B. However, according to this damage calculator, 180 g of plain Composition B without fragmentation has a fatal distance of 1.3m and an injury radius of 5m.
If applicable to MfD this is huge news, the explosive seal has been optimized for centuries, this would be a drastic step up in effectiveness for a tiny cost. We know that regular smiths can cast iron. So making dozens or even hundreds of frag shells in a day would be possible.
We could start by prototyping hollow iron shells and wrapping explosive tags around them, it would take a bit of experimentation to get perfect, but it wouldn't be that hard to optimize. We can offscreen most of the work.
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Not imagining things well, but like this?
Nah, like an inside-out frag grenade. Wrap the tag around an iron shell and set it off. It should throw metal fragments that are dangerous much farther away than just the tag by itself.
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I am confused. How is an inverted frag grenade more dangerous than a normal frag grenade?
"You have an army. I have a friend and a storage scroll full of tuna fish."
Just wrap a storage scroll around the explosive tag. The automatically dump their contents when destroyed and those contents will be propelled by the shockwave.
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Usually. They usually dump their contents when destroyed. Sometimes...not so much. Sometimes it's worse.
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
Did... did we accidentally ask Ami out, in Mori culture, by asking her to join the most complex puzzle of them all: instituting Uplift?
Edit: And Hazou asked Ami to help him solve the Grand Puzzle, together --thus showing an immense amount of respect for her intellect while recognizing her as an equal with moral agency equal to his own.
Hazou may have accidentally proposed to Ami in the Mori Way, while accidentally adjusting it enough to respect her need for freedom...
Edit: And Hazou asked Ami to help him solve the Grand Puzzle, together --thus showing an immense amount of respect for her intellect while recognizing her as an equal with moral agency equal to his own.
Hazou may have accidentally proposed to Ami in the Mori Way, while accidentally adjusting it enough to respect her need for freedom...
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- The Deep Blue Sea
Did you mean this the other way round? I feel like you'd rather push the metal outward, not inward, unless you're setting off a nuke
My understanding was that they would safely dump their contents as long as there was sufficient room for them to do so and that the failures only started happening when they didn't, hence why a sealmaster as paranoid as Kagome would design a signature seal whose operating principle depended upon an implosion destroying the tag and produce them by the thousands. It's that incorrect?
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First of two plans, feel free to take individual scenes from either for your own plans
[X] Action Plan: In Which Hazou Attempts to Mend Several Types of Rifts
Word Count: 299
[X] Action Plan: In Which Hazou Attempts to Mend Several Types of Rifts
Word Count: 299
- Sanity check with Akane, Keiko, Ino
- Hinata
- We noticed you purchased a large quantity of scrip. Hazou originally found this suspicious, but Hazou's advisors suggested the Hyuuga were investing in the Goketsu instead.
- Be straightforward. Does Hinata know of involvement from the Hyuuga in the bank run?
- If she admits culpability/had awareness before the run, explain how this negatively impacts the entire village. Avoid being patronizing.
- Be straightforward. Does Hinata know of involvement from the Hyuuga in the bank run?
- Jiraiya and Hiashi's rivalry was no secret, but Jiraiya only said positive things about Hinata. Hazou is willing to extend the benefit of the doubt.
- We were intending to pitch a land-clearing partnership to the Hyuuga before the bank run. Hazou understands if engaging with the Goketsu economically currently is politically inconvenient.
- Hazou isn't concerned. Hazou intends to mitigate their current debt within a few months or so once he has time away from dealing with classified stuff. We can discuss more then, if Hinata is interested.
- We were intending to pitch a land-clearing partnership to the Hyuuga before the bank run. Hazou understands if engaging with the Goketsu economically currently is politically inconvenient.
- We noticed you purchased a large quantity of scrip. Hazou originally found this suspicious, but Hazou's advisors suggested the Hyuuga were investing in the Goketsu instead.
- Kumokogo
- Explain and give ETA on Harumitsu's Outstanding World-Saving Seal
- Hazou has a weapon to test when applying HOWS. He doubts implosion seals will kill a Dragon, but many might injure one. Should Hazou worry about Dragons eating seals?
- Assuming getting Hazou to the Great Seal is a similar process to last time, Hazou intends for the suicide hornets to carry seals this time and potentially injure the Dragons. Show proper respect.
- Recruiting the other Summon Clans has hit a snag.
- The Arachnids value honesty, be honest.
- The Arachnids seem sufficiently isolated that they may not know Hazou's 7th Path history. Explain the Pangolin/Condor conflict and Hazou's role.
- This caused clans to be suspicious of Hazou.
- Is there ancient precedent for assembling the clans and trying a War Criminal? This conflict is too big not to have the trust of the others.
- The Arachnids value honesty, be honest.
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Plan 2
[X] Action Plan: Hazou Faces the Music (And Listens to it Too)
Word Count: 299
[X] Action Plan: Hazou Faces the Music (And Listens to it Too)
Word Count: 299
- Sanity check with Keiko, Ino, Akane
- Condor Summoner
- Invite Condor Summoner to Goketsu Estate, inform them in advance what Hazou would like to speak about, show proper respect
- Certain Summon Clans do not trust Hazou. This is fair, and Hazou would like to address the most wronged party first.
- Condor Summoner could summon representative(s) or speak on behalf of Condors.
- Hazou cannot fully grasp the damage he has wrought, but he tries frequently and he feels terrible about it. He should not have interfered in something he did not understand without trying to gain context, and his ignorance had deadly consequences.
- The present crisis is much bigger than Hazou, the Dogs, and the Arachnids. He would like to know what he needs to do to gain the Condors' trust that the Dragon crisis is real. He understands there's probably nothing he can do for forgiveness, but he can at least try his hardest to prevent further catastrophe from befalling the 7th Path.
- Cannai
- Nekkar seemed to imply the biggest threat wasn't the Dragons. Was she trolling or was there more to it?
- Are there any further legends about the Eaters that could be shared with Hazou? Perhaps a weakness could be gleaned from them.
- Is there ancient precedent for assembling the clans and trying a War Criminal? This conflict is too big not to have the trust of the others.
- Hazou doesn't really have time to visit each clan one by one and apologize...plus they might kill him on sight or detain him.
- How quickly can Bosses travel outside of their own domain? If we do manage to get the others on board, how long would it take them to arrive for the fight? Or rather, how many days in advance would a strike need to be?
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Can you add a line about sanity checking with Ami and Ino? Ami is Ami and can help provide perspective, and Ino knows Hinata far better than we do, and may be able to provide insight... Though if we ask Ino, we may want to preface it with a "we know this involves clans, and that our relationship is still new, don't feel pressured to provide advice if you're uncomfortable being involved in the Goketsu interactions with the Hyuuga. We would understand completely and not be offended..."
Maybe we could also give Ino some of the 7th Path flowers we precommitted to grabbing for her? Or maybe the timing of it ("hey, here are flowers, now please give me advice") would be rude/improper/presumptuous/offensive.
Yeah, because that's going to be the first concern which crosses her mind when her new polyamorous boyfriend says, "Hey, can you help me bond with the female head of the only clan more prestigious than yours? Also, I'm asking for help from an elite social spec jounin who proposed marriage to me. Oh, and I think her sister(?) has a crush on me, but that's not a problem because she can clone herself in batch lots."
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[X] Action Plan: Hazou Faces the Music (And Listens to it Too)
I like it. It's an EJ cycle, so dogs and boldness both seem appropriate.
I like it. It's an EJ cycle, so dogs and boldness both seem appropriate.
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Fuckimdumb
@Shrooms Two thoughts:
@Shrooms Two thoughts:
- Could you please add a "sanity check with Keiko & Akane" to the plan (both of them)? Keiko, at the least, is very well-placed to know what's going on since she's the Pangolin Summoner. Akane is Akane, of course. Until she's Itachi.
- I've noticed that Enma was present during Hazou's debriefing with Asuma about the Eaters in Chapter 424 (unless there's another Farwalker that makes sense in this context). Since he's the Monkey Boss, he should be a point of weakness for the general "no trust b/c Hazou" thing.
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- The Void
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This is the wrong tack to take with Kadokura. We don't need to play it as a supplicant begging for forgiveness.
We have an established rapport. She's a KEI ninja. She knows that we are legit. Def don't meet her at the estate. We don't want to highlight being a clan head.
Will have specific edits up in the morning
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[X] Action Plan: Titles Are Hard, Sue Me
Word Count: Probably <300.
Sanity-check with Keiko & Akane.
Word Count: Probably <300.
Sanity-check with Keiko & Akane.
- Cannai
- Nekkar seemed to imply the biggest threat wasn't the Dragons. Was she trolling or was there more to it?
- Are there any further legends about the Eaters that could be shared with Hazou? Perhaps a weakness could be gleaned from them.
- Is there precedent for establishing reparations/compensation for war crimes? The conflict is too big not to have the others' trust.
- How quickly can Bosses travel outside of their own domain? If we do manage to get the others on board, how long would it take them to arrive for the fight? Or rather, how many days in advance would a strike need to be?
- Kumokogo
- Explain and give ETA on Harumitsu's Outstanding World-Saving Seal
- (IFF we don't expect to be killed for doing so) Explain that recruiting the other Clans has hit a snag.
- The Arachnids value honesty, be honest.
- The Arachnids seem sufficiently isolated that they may not know Hazou's 7th Path history. Explain the Pangolin/Condor conflict and Hazou's role.
- To preserve Skytowers OPSEC, talk in general terms.
- This caused clans to be suspicious of Hazou.
- If Cannai indicates it is possible without committing suicide, ask for precedent for establishing reparations/compensation for war crimes? The conflict is too big not to have the others' trust.
- The Arachnids seem sufficiently isolated that they may not know Hazou's 7th Path history. Explain the Pangolin/Condor conflict and Hazou's role.
- The Arachnids value honesty, be honest.
- Enma: He was present during our debrief with Asuma (as Farwalker), could we work with him to convince the other Bosses that we're genuine?
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