- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Hmmm you're pretty close to convincing me.
@faflec @MMKII @Inferno Vulpix @Sentient Tree @Fresh C what do y'all think?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
@faflec @MMKII @Inferno Vulpix @Sentient Tree @Fresh C what do y'all think?
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
I'm against including a meeting with all the clans in the update for various reasons. Primarily, we're tryna do a lot already and there won't be enough room for a big detailed meeting section.
*cough cough*
There was a plan for the last deadline that sent fancy invitations and whatnot out to schedule meetings with all these individuals later in the week. Personally, I thought it was a good way to lock that into our schedule , maybe you could co-opt that?
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- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Yeah was planning on stealing that if people wanted to get it scheduled
- Location
- Yes.
I'm 50-50 on it. Hazou is clan head so him letting Noburi take point is weird and may be taken as a sign of weakness. OTOH Hazou taking the lead may have issues due to his Social Consequences.
So maybe we shouldn't do the meetings, at least for a week. Feel free to schedule if that is stipulated.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Theres no reason to do it on a 1v1 basis. Just interact with the other clan heirs/acting clan heads in groups of 3 with Noburi and Keiko by our side.
In case of emergency Keiko can bringeth the icy thunder.
- Location
- Potato land
I have plans for this meeting, that the presence of Neji and Hanabi would interfere with. Noburi and Keiko aren't there because Hinata is alone, and there's a nice balance of power between her and Hazou, both being clan heirs acting as clan heads. The implication is that we want to discuss important political topics, which we kind of do, or at least I do.
Means you end the update early. Partially because the completely hypothetical really bad thing probably invalidates the rest of the plan, and partially because the players want to react to the awful thing asap.
This is merely a humble request, made with the understanding that it's within your power to refuse, and no hard feelings will remain in that case.
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- [REDACTED]
Fuck it
Stealing from @Oneiros. The orginal plan has been cut to 237 words. Additions in italics.
Word count: 330
[X] Action plan: Jiraiya Survivability Initiative and Welfare Economics
Stealing from @Oneiros. The orginal plan has been cut to 237 words. Additions in italics.
Word count: 330
[X] Action plan: Jiraiya Survivability Initiative and Welfare Economics
- Scribe seals for the next 6 hours,
- Whatever Jiraiya wants
- CHAOS suit + storage seals for Kagome's shield on forearms?
- Ask if 2-3 hours testing small implosion seal stacks, poison misterators (for bombing lethal/nonlethal), heat softened metal macerators is worth it?
- Hand to Jiraiya before departure.
- Offer to scribe on the road using pangolin delivery.
- Whatever Jiraiya wants
- Farewells to Mom, thank for killing intent advice.
- Ask for political advice and tips on Iron Nerve social applications
- Mom + Mori
- Let them know about chakra beast bounty plan.
- Advice on preparing presentations to create buy-in from stakeholders across the EN with economic analysis.
- Arrange merchant escort.
- During return to Leaf
- Socialize with fellow Leaf ninja.
- Specifically clanless ninjas
- Be wary of ambushes
- Socialize with fellow Leaf ninja.
- Get back to Leaf.
- Update Mari and Kagome on everything.
- Homefront updates?
- Prepare for terrible news, and that you'll need to fix everything.
- In case of super traumatic news, make sure no one leaves the compound.
- Goes double for yourself
- Kei
- Ask to start merchant council dossier.
- Finances of members
- Dirty secrets
- Political stances (public and private)
- Ask to start a report regarding optimal bounties on chakra basis
- Maybe getting input from Nara, spending/selling time.
- Ask to start merchant council dossier.
- Hazō & Noburi
- Put 100k down on till-n-fills
- Take the time to get to know who's working there
- See if they need help with anything
- Hazō is looking to follow Ami's in favor trading
- See if they need help with anything
- Kagome
- Tutor more clanless Academy students?
- Only those you want to,
- Teach older students sealing
- He did an incredible job with Hazō
- He's the only person who can prevent deaths
- Tutor more clanless Academy students?
- Clan-less
- Find clanless with good records and reviews.
- Research clanless exam-attendees over the past decade
- Not Haru,
- Research clanless exam-attendees over the past decade
- Pay identified clanless personal visits
- Goketsu has noticed their excellence
- Ask what we can do for them to build an enduring relationship.
- Offer better paying missions (til-n-fil), seals, healing/training
- Potential all around better missions in the future
- Emulating Ami's favor economy
- Find clanless with good records and reviews.
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- Location
- USA
[X] Action plan: Clanless conspiracy
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
I would love for us to talk with the clans. Especially Hyūga, but all of them really.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
I disagree that Ami favor should be spent so quickly, so thats going to be a hard no from me chief.
Objection!
I'll accept that you have plans for this meeting, but that by no means is a convincing argument against the points I've levied.
(I don't ship HxH by the way, even though the abbreviation is pretty good.)
- Location
- [REDACTED]
Fair enough, I'm honestly not so sure on that part myself. However, I do think getting her assistance in the actual delivery of the presentations would be about the most utility we could hope to wring out of the favor.
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
If we don't need to start on this within the temporal scope of the update, I'd prefer if we got started on it next plan. We already seem to have enough going on in the plan we have, and if anything the QMs can put more focus on the meeting setups if we make them the centerpiece of the next plan instead of the last item on the list for this one.
- Location
- [REDACTED]
I should explain that the whole point of getting stakeholder buy-in for the bounty system is that it could subvert the need to make the bounties state-funded. IIRC, taxes in the EN operate by something very close to a feudalistic system. If we could convince clans to set their own bounties in order to increase their tax bases we could avoid the need to pay for it ourselves altogether. It could very well be more efficient too, cause federalism. The merchant guild/individual merchants might be willing to fund bounties as well, or at least help pay for them. Lastly the seriousness with which we're taking this, the fact that this is mostly for the benefit of civilians, and the fact that we bothered to do an economic analysis could engender positive feelings towards the Gotseku.
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- Location
- Potato land
Objection!
I'll accept that you have plans for this meeting, but that by no means is a convincing argument against the points I've levied.
(I don't ship HxH by the way, even though the abbreviation is pretty good.)
Who said anything about shipping? I'd like the meeting to be private for the same reason I wouldn't have wanted to take Noburi along for the Ami meetings. As a rule of thumb, the less people present, the less posturing, social manoeuvring and face saving will happen, and we want to minimize the need for Hinata to engage in these.
The idea here is that Hinata is secretly a pretty decent person, and will be more willing to be candid with us without having to worry about having to wear the mask of Hyuuga clan heiress. This is also a setting that favours Hazou more than a more structured negotiation.
And in general, I think Neji and Hanabi are difficult to build rapport with, and will make things more difficult for us if we include them
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- Location
- Under a Rock
[X] Action plan: Clan Management Quest Starts Here
[X] Action plan: Clanless conspiracy
Five things, feel free to ignore, you have my vote either way:
First, we should try to fill in Akane as well. I don't want to leave her out. If we are trying to court clanless Ninja, she would also be a great resource. This assumes she isn't dead, but I think the cost in words would be small. Also, our plan is shot to hell if she has died anyway.
Second, we should look into hiring staff. I'm thinking someone for demographic and economic research.
Third, we will need to grant some lopsided favours initially, because we don't have Ami's reputation.
Fourth, Kagome's section seems a little brusque. Maybe something like:
Kagome
Fifth, a new bullet point underneath the farewell to Hana:
[X] Action plan: Clanless conspiracy
Five things, feel free to ignore, you have my vote either way:
First, we should try to fill in Akane as well. I don't want to leave her out. If we are trying to court clanless Ninja, she would also be a great resource. This assumes she isn't dead, but I think the cost in words would be small. Also, our plan is shot to hell if she has died anyway.
Second, we should look into hiring staff. I'm thinking someone for demographic and economic research.
Third, we will need to grant some lopsided favours initially, because we don't have Ami's reputation.
Fourth, Kagome's section seems a little brusque. Maybe something like:
Kagome
- He seemed pretty excited about opening a school. How can we help with that?
- Shoulder more sealing duties?
- Buy supplies with clan resources?
- Identify potential students?
- Publish a book?
- Rich ninja would probably pay mountains of chocolate for a sealing tutor as gifted as him.
Fifth, a new bullet point underneath the farewell to Hana:
- We can't stay. We have Chaos Beasts to slay.
- Location
- [REDACTED]
Removed the part with spending Ami's favor. To the extent that it is a worthwhile use of the favor, it could always be in a later plan. Frankly, that applies for all the bounty stuff, my main goal is keeping J-Man from dying. If that happens we'll be fucked on so many levels, plus he's a cool character.
Also, other plan creators, particularly @Oneiros, feel free to take the word saving stuff.
Also, other plan creators, particularly @Oneiros, feel free to take the word saving stuff.
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Just did thank you so much!
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
Alright, I'd like to do more investigation into what we need to do to make sure our till'n'fill funding is actually helping civilians, but this is obviously the wrong time to focus on something like that so I'll write the subsection now and store it for later:
- Investigate our till'n'fill funding:
- Get Keiko's help.
- Find out how common it is for till'n'fills to not get done because they don't pay enough. Try to estimate how often they just don't get posted in the first place.
- Figure out what kind of funding scheme would get the most till'n'fills taken.
- If there are probably a lot of missions that never get posted in the first place, those villages need to know that we're subsidizing till'n'fills. Look into asking traders to spread the word to places they visit.
- Location
- Liverpool
@Oneiros I'm generally of the opinion that chatting up people/ networking is cool, but offering training and committing to anything should wait until 1) After we check in with Kagome and Mari (and tell Akane what we can, because I do not want to just abandon her), and 2) after we see what we find out from networking.
I want to do that stuff, but it seems like there's already quite a few scenes in this update, and getting that information to refine our pitch would be better, so actively seeking out and approaching random clanless ninja could happen next update. (Also, getting bonus xp again would be nice, so I appreciate the length).
Just my two cents, since I'll be busy and was barely able to catch up but largely like your plan.
I want to do that stuff, but it seems like there's already quite a few scenes in this update, and getting that information to refine our pitch would be better, so actively seeking out and approaching random clanless ninja could happen next update. (Also, getting bonus xp again would be nice, so I appreciate the length).
Just my two cents, since I'll be busy and was barely able to catch up but largely like your plan.
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- Location
- Yes.
[X] Action Plan: Home Foundations
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- Scribe whatever Jiraiya wants, deliver to him before we (or they) leave.
- Offer to scribe and send more via Pangolins.
- Say goodbye to Mom.
- Thanks for the killing intent advice. It helped.
- Former clan heir to acting clan head: Any tips?
- Please take care and don't do anything extreme.
- We love you.
- Arrange escort for merchants.
- On the way back to Leaf:
- Socialize with your fellow Leaf ninja.
- What are their thoughts on the recent events?
- Be sure to talk to the clanless as well.
- Read over Jiraiya's responses, focusing on politics and our economic situation. Try following up on leads he suggests.
- Socialize with your fellow Leaf ninja.
- Back at Leaf.
- Hug Mari. We missed her.
- Update her and Kagome on everything. Ask what's happened since we left.
- In case of super traumatic news, make sure no one does anything stupid. This goes double for yourself.
- Research and talk. Discuss and work together with the clan.
- Investigate Merchant Council members' finances, rumours, and political affiliation.
- Maybe Keiko's fans might have information?
- Talk to Kagome at length about what he's been up to.
- You once expressed interest in writing. Are you still interested? How can we help?
- Has he talked with Ebisu, and has he approved Kagome's teaching methods to the Academy?
- Offer to invite the Academy Headmaster to a fancy dinner to help further Kagome's educational agenda.
- Continue funding till'n'fills.
- Pay a logistics officer (or ask Keiko) to collect data on till-n-fill distributions.
- Arrange some lunches or game nights with other Acting Clan Heads (ISC, Shino, Kiba...) to establish better rapport.
- Network with clanless ninja with good records.
- Try emulating Ami's favor economy. Offer healing, seals, training, or advance warning before we fund mission bounties (till'n'fills).
- Invite Akane over to eat, train...simple stuff.
- Investigate Merchant Council members' finances, rumours, and political affiliation.
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- Location
- USA
[X] Action Plan: Home Foundations
I like the research section a lot, so I'll vote for this plan too. It probably would be a good idea to get a rundown on leaf politics and investigate the merchant council. I'd consider adding it to @Oneiros's plan, but we're already pushing it for what can fit in a single update.
Edit: apparently i missed it but there's already a section about the merchant council. If we added in the section with politics rundown would that be too much?
We probably should drop a line about catching up with Akane in there. I don't think we should tell her everything that's going on but I think we could get away with at least telling her what our immediate plans are and that important missions are taking place that could change the future of the Elemental nations. Also it would be a great idea to get her opinion about our plan to deal with clanless ninja and see how she feels about it
I like the research section a lot, so I'll vote for this plan too. It probably would be a good idea to get a rundown on leaf politics and investigate the merchant council. I'd consider adding it to @Oneiros's plan, but we're already pushing it for what can fit in a single update.
Edit: apparently i missed it but there's already a section about the merchant council. If we added in the section with politics rundown would that be too much?
We probably should drop a line about catching up with Akane in there. I don't think we should tell her everything that's going on but I think we could get away with at least telling her what our immediate plans are and that important missions are taking place that could change the future of the Elemental nations. Also it would be a great idea to get her opinion about our plan to deal with clanless ninja and see how she feels about it
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Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
This could mostly be done on the way back. I would prefer we be a little more active as well.
I dont think scouring the library for books will be useful. We don't have the kind of time thats going to take. I would much rather just ask ISC and use our best judgement as to whether to listen to them, and rely on the playerbase to make good decisions.
In general, this is the time to start arranging chess pieces for future gambits that we might want or need to put in motion. I don't really see a lot of that being done here. It could be summarized by "Get crash course in politics on the way back. Get caught up with the clan." and I think we need to get more involved than that.
E: and this is just my two cents yadda yadda
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