No. That would require enormously overloading your chakra coils, which would kill you.
So you can't use a technique by feeding chakra into it more slowly than you normally would and having a Wakahisa slowly refill you at the same time, enabling you to put more into a technique than you can actually contain in your coils at one time?
 
@Inferno Vulpix implemented most of your suggestions. Keeping in the explicit mention of Orchimaru though. It's to important to leave up to Jiraiya independently deciding to do it
Thanks a bunch! I think 'your old team' is sufficiently clear as a suggestion, but if you want Orochimaru explicitly mentioned I still think there's room to improve that section.
Obviously taking on an entire summon clan and then fighting an S-ranker is dangerous.
  • Obviously we should get Tsunade involved
  • Also there's Orchimaru
    • He's another S-rank summoner that could help out
    • Hazō has suspected that he's been in contact with based on the card game that was sent before the exams started
    • If they are not in contact suggest sending a messenger through the pangolins
Apart from whether or not Tsunade or Orochimaru are explicitly mentioned, this section as it currently is is kind of stating the obvious to Jiraiya in a few places and is structured a bit oddly in others. I'd recommend a different variant on the suggestion I made earlier:
  • Itachi apparently fought the clan solo, but it's probably a good idea to bring backup.
    • We don't know many summoners, but this may be worth contacting Tsunade and Orochimaru.
      • We can already guess that you're in touch with him, after that board game he sent.
    • Keiko's probably not strong enough to help out, but she could send a message through the Pangolins.
e:
[X] Action plan: Operation Murder
 
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So you can't use a technique by feeding chakra into it more slowly than you normally would and having a Wakahisa slowly refill you at the same time, enabling you to put more into a technique than you can actually contain in your coils at one time?
Why would you be able to do that in the first place?
 
Thanks a bunch! I think 'your old team' is sufficiently clear as a suggestion, but if you want Orochimaru explicitly mentioned I still think there's room to improve that section.

Apart from whether or not Tsunade or Orochimaru are explicitly mentioned, this section as it currently is is kind of stating the obvious to Jiraiya in a few places and is structured a bit oddly in others. I'd recommend a different variant on the suggestion I made earlier:
  • Itachi apparently fought the clan solo, but it's probably a good idea to bring backup.
    • We don't know many summoners, but this may be worth contacting Tsunade and Orochimaru.
      • We can already guess that you're in touch with him, after that board game he sent.
    • Keiko's probably not strong enough to help out, but she could send a message through the Pangolins.
e:
[X] Action plan: Operation Murder

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Why would you be able to do that in the first place?
I'm not totally sure what you're asking.

The thinking is that chakra manipulations aren't instantaneous, techniques take some amount of time to channel the chakra outside of ones' body and form it into the right shape. By deliberately going a bit slow in forming a technique you could create time to absorb more chakra as you spend it, allowing you to put more chakra into a technique than you can actually hold at one time. Theoretically. If there's some reason in this world's physics that it doesn't work that I'm not aware of that's fine, but it seems promising.
 
I'm not totally sure what you're asking.

The thinking is that chakra manipulations aren't instantaneous, techniques take some amount of time to channel the chakra outside of ones' body and form it into the right shape. By deliberately going a bit slow in forming a technique you could create time to absorb more chakra as you spend it, allowing you to put more chakra into a technique than you can actually hold at one time. Theoretically. If there's some reason in this world's physics that it doesn't work that I'm not aware of that's fine, but it seems promising.
Besides this seeming like a pretty delicate and potentially lethal balancing act to test out...

Well, for one, we dont even know the magic obeys physics in that manner. For all we know the all powerful AI in the sun manages everything behind the scenes with the power of quantum nanomachines (or equivalent technobabble) and that "chakra" is really just a nickname for the amount of permissions it grants to certain users, which gets increased if they do specific things.

Or something equally inscrutable.

There are techniques that can be slowcast for less chakra expenditure. If Shadow Clone was one of them and the discount was large enough to be substantial, I would expect that the world would look a bit different than it does. Leaf doesnt appear to have all that many shadow clone users though.

We could test it on techniques we have, but I would bet 50$ on the outcome being "Nope, sorry hoss."
 
Wait, hold on:
Let Ami know that we see what she did
  • And trying that big of a stunt will cost her a lot more than just on favor
  • Walk off before she has a chance to respond
I personally don't think that Ami planned for anything like this outcome. She's got every reason to not irrevocably sour Leaf-Mist relations and I really doubt she'd be confident enough in her estimation of how we'd use our favour to wager her continued ability to be in contact with Keiko. Further, this is a very aggressive move and we should at least try to keep things cordial.

I'd recommend instead frankly asking Ami if she intended this when she brought Yukino here, with implied subtext that we'll be very upset if she did.
 
This update has me smiling.

I now predict the zabuza + gaara interrupt to be a prank made by ami, to whom zabuza obviously owes favours and who is also on it for the schadenfreude. Meanwhile, akatsuki have freed the tailed beasts from their mortal jailers in exchange for help on the colonization of a different planet.

Or something completely different, which is why I enjoy this thread so.

Thanks.
 
Besides this seeming like a pretty delicate and potentially lethal balancing act to test out...

Well, for one, we dont even know the magic obeys physics in that manner. For all we know the all powerful AI in the sun manages everything behind the scenes with the power of quantum nanomachines (or equivalent technobabble) and that "chakra" is really just a nickname for the amount of permissions it grants to certain users, which gets increased if they do specific things.

Or something equally inscrutable.

There are techniques that can be slowcast for less chakra expenditure. If Shadow Clone was one of them and the discount was large enough to be substantial, I would expect that the world would look a bit different than it does. Leaf doesnt appear to have all that many shadow clone users though.

We could test it on techniques we have, but I would bet 50$ on the outcome being "Nope, sorry hoss."
Agreed that it may or may not be possible, that's why I'm asking. I wasn't aware of the techniques that can be slowcast for efficiency gains thing, that's interesting. If this works it would be helpful with all techniques of course, not just those.

Because it's a plan about going into the summon realm and beating up a bunch of crows.
*facepalm* Ah yes, of course. Silly of me.
 
I dont put any stock into this "Exactly as Ami planned." thing. If this was true, the correct response is to just give up and lighthouse until the infusion failures kill us or we have enough sealing bullshit to crack the planet in half, and then kill her and any genius-level intelligence bloodline user we suspect may have ill intentions.
 
I dont put any stock into this "Exactly as Ami planned." thing. If this was true, the correct response is to just give up and lighthouse until the infusion failures kill us or we have enough sealing bullshit to crack the planet in half, and then kill her and any genius-level intelligence bloodline user we suspect may have ill intentions.

She could have intended to provoke Zabuza without knowing exactly what he would do. I think that's my guess.

In any case, don't be so ready to give up. It's not like there aren't counters to analysis powers, not the least of which are people on your side who also have them.
 
She could have intended to provoke Zabuza without knowing exactly what he would do. I think that's my guess.

In any case, don't be so ready to give up. It's not like there aren't counters to analysis powers, not the least of which are people on your side who also have them.

I would put way more stock into "Doing it for the lulz, but didnt know about Battle of the Gods."
 
Hazō of course is willing to scribe any seals the strike force might need

I don't like that phrasing. Normally I wouldn't nit-pick something that small, but it implies that we have a choice, and it's important to remember that we are under Jiraya's chain of command. I'd say we're "ready to scribe any seals [...]" instead. Phrasing like that has caused issues in the past.
 
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