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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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faflec said:
[X] Action Plan: Huh? Didn't We Do This Already?

@Cariyaga One basic plot we could do is to interact with some of the less-violent-looking people and try to get them to let slip information (beyond whether or not they're ninjas). Information like their names, village, team name, and secret identity are all critically valuable information.
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I'm not sure that what someone in a henge looks like will have any impact on how violent they actually are. That said, talking up the drunk people's a good call.
 
[X] Action Plan: Huh? Didn't We Do This Already?

Cariyaga said:
[X] Action Plan: Huh? Didn't We Do This Already?

Goals: Get the majority of the people here drunk without getting caught. Reduce the non-Leaf high ranking teams point scores. Get lots of points for Team Uplift.

Means:
  1. Use the Tipserator to get a bunch of ninja drunk. Don't get caught.
    • Hazou will use Hiding Like a Mole to move under the porch near where the people are gathered, toward the back so he doesn't get caught, followed by using the tipserator
      • Do not release Hiding Like a Mole: Instead, immediately sink back underground the moment the tipserator goes off.
      • Do not leave the used seal behind, of course
  2. Return to Super Team Leaf.
    • Go back underground, returning to the marquee. Check using tap codes with Keiko or Noburi from underground to be sure nobody's around.
    • Find out the results of the operation
    • Suggest that the teams cooperate by sharing names of high scoring non-Leaf teams by sharing information. Targets of particular interest are Team Downfall, Team Mugiwara, and any other team that other members of STL want dealt with.
      • Hazou suggests sharing those particular teams' names with any cliques that have formed. He has one in mind.
        • Of course this information will be bartered with for new identities in case they do not have it
    • Express a general willingness to work together with the other teams to maximize point gain for STL. The better Leaf does in general, the more powerful Leaf appears.
  3. Continue the event, enacting various plots and schemes. A very good point was raised that if we don't actually have a plan we should discuss with our teammates instead of throwing shit at the wall immediately. I would prefer this be changed to discuss unless we got something tangible. We should at least add a clause getting STL to agree with any of these plots.
    • Write down lists detailing relevant information of the teams you want sabotaged. Have Bonku distribute them and post them up in public places.
    • Observe who is sweating and who isn't. Those who aren't are ninja.
      • The genin probably don't have much experience with alcohol.
    • Something something matchmaking service? (Idea - Spread a rumor about the service. With ninja identities already exposed, people might be more willing to take up this offer. In a break room, a member of Team Uplift will ask "who are you looking for" and direct people together, under a guarantee that the info won't leave your team. Net potential gain is 45 points for parties matched with this, and 10 points for each match for every member of Team Uplift.)
    • <Fill in more ideas here>
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Potential edits/comments put in red.

Still trying to think of better things for (3)
 
eaglejarl said:
Not only did we get to spend a day and a half dealing with complaints and accusations, I got to throw 11 hours of my weekend in the crapper.
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This is not true. I enjoyed the fruits of your labor. They were not in vain. I read the retconned material and my enjoyment of it did not retroactively disappear merely because it is no longer canon. You shit golden eggs.
 
Kiba said:
What are the expected possible fallout of this scenario?
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Almost certainly less than the prior version. Nobody will likely throw up an explosive, anyways, and with line of site any frightened reactions will be much more measured.

Ideally, several people will get DQ'd due to henge breakage, while we get away undetected.
 
Cariyaga said:
That's uh, a little extreme. also, there's no real point in putting that in the plan: Hazou has no reason to let it go.
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Lets be clear and concise just in case? At worst it'll get an eyeroll from the QMs and it doesn't really add anything to the overall complexity of the plan anyway
 
Kiba said:
What are the expected possible fallout of this scenario?
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People will get violent or reckless, possibly at a lower scale. Like trying to hit us or others with enough force to break henge. Which, true, DQs them but if it removes ours we are also gone.

Or they will see our publicized lists and retaliate in kind. It is quite obvious when the only teams mentioned are the top teams minus STL. And we can't add false info wrt to Hazo because his identity is compromised. If we can, finger known civilians as uncompromised members from STL to obfuscate both the bias in the list and reduce the points others can get. Suggest this with STL and get permission from anyone who agrees to be used in such a way.

@Cariyaga Why not get chakra from Noburi and use Living Roots? Seems like the safer option to avoid detection.
 
Cariyaga said:
Do not release Hiding Like a Mole: Instead, immediately sink back underground the moment the tipserator goes off.
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Take the tipserator with you; don't leave it behind. Yes, I know this is nitpicking but still.
Cariyaga said:
Go back underground, returning to the marquee.
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This quote repeats what the previous (farther above) quote said. I would suggest changing the first sentence of this quote to "Return to the marquee from underground" or something like that.
Cariyaga said:
Check using tap codes with Keiko or Noburi from underground to be sure nobody's around.
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Hazou needs to use Living Roots to use this, which you haven't mentioned that he does. He also doesn't have enough chakra to use HLaM and Living Roots: I would recommend that (in Section 1) Hazou quickly asks Noburi for enough chakra to be able to do this.
Cariyaga said:
Find out the results of the operation
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What does this mean, exactly? Do you mean to say that we are to go back to the crowd and observe what's going on?
Cariyaga said:
Suggest that the teams cooperate by sharing names of high scoring non-Leaf teams by sharing information. Targets of particular interest are Team Downfall, Team Mugiwara, and any other team that other members of STL want dealt with.
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Please add: Team Gensō, which Team 8 wants taken out.
Cariyaga said:
Continue the event, enacting various plots and schemes. Check these with STL, given the opportunity -- Keiko and Noburi otherwise.
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Keiko and Noburi should be the first people we check, not STL as a whole. Ask them first, then ask STL as necessary.
 
What did we wish had been the case last time?

  • Well, we wanted to be able to stop the stampede. There were a couple things that we proposed which wouldn't work, but the big reason we didn't do anything at all was that we were terrified of getting caught.
    • We can mitigate that risk a bit bit by wearing concealing clothing over our henge. A Halloween style ghost costume using a table cloth would work. If we do use a costume, plant a similar discarded costume along an alternate escape route before hand. I vote the roof.
  • We wanted were a couple of seals already in our hand, in case we needed them.
  • We wished we could have obviously blocked access to the door, so that the crowd wouldn't trample themselves to death.
  • We wished we could have used goo bombs to get everyone to keep everyone from trampling eachother.
  • We wished the proctors could have prevented some of the chaos
    • Nothing we are doing is against the rules. Can we anonymously inform the proctors ahead of time?
    • Could we have someone pretend to be a panicked civilian and ask a proctor for safety protocols?
      • Before deploying, could we have Bonku pretend to be someone in the know, who says that in any circumstance, even an explosion, proper procedure is to duck and cover until given orders by the proctors? Safer for everyone, including you! Getting further away from a proctor just makes you a target.
        • We might want to do this anyway. Keeps civilians from leaving.
  • We wished we could have split the crowd
    • Could we plant someone who loudly says "Follow Me!" from a direction away from the house?
 
Immortal Lurker said:
What did we wish had been the case last time?

  • Well, we wanted to be able to stop the stampede. There were a couple things that we proposed which wouldn't work, but the big reason we didn't do anything at all was that we were terrified of getting caught.
    • We can mitigate that risk a bit bit by wearing concealing clothing over our henge. A Halloween style ghost costume using a table cloth would work. If we do use a costume, plant a similar discarded costume along an alternate escape route before hand. I vote the roof.
  • We wanted were a couple of seals already in our hand, in case we needed them.
  • We wished we could have obviously blocked access to the door, so that the crowd wouldn't trample themselves to death.
  • We wished we could have used goo bombs to get everyone to keep everyone from trampling eachother.
  • We wished the proctors could have prevented some of the chaos
    • Nothing we are doing is against the rules. Can we anonymously inform the proctors ahead of time?
    • Could we have someone pretend to be a panicked civilian and ask a proctor for safety protocols?
      • Before deploying, could we have Bonku pretend to be someone in the know, who says that in any circumstance, even an explosion, proper procedure is to duck and cover until given orders by the proctors? Safer for everyone, including you! Getting further away from a proctor just makes you a target.
        • We might want to do this anyway. Keeps civilians from leaving.
  • We wished we could have split the crowd
    • Could we plant someone who loudly says "Follow Me!" from a direction away from the house?
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I think the main problem now is that our timeframe is relatively short to enact the plan. I don't think we can do most of these before the window of opportunity is closed.
 
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Tua said:
@Cariyaga Why not get chakra from Noburi and use Living Roots? Seems like the safer option to avoid detection.
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Because Noburi will likely need chakra to use henge later on.

How does Living Roots help us avoid detection?
Immortal Lurker said:
What did we wish had been the case last time?

  • Well, we wanted to be able to stop the stampede. There were a couple things that we proposed which wouldn't work, but the big reason we didn't do anything at all was that we were terrified of getting caught.
    • We can mitigate that risk a bit bit by wearing concealing clothing over our henge. A Halloween style ghost costume using a table cloth would work. If we do use a costume, plant a similar discarded costume along an alternate escape route before hand. I vote the roof.
  • We wanted were a couple of seals already in our hand, in case we needed them.
  • We wished we could have obviously blocked access to the door, so that the crowd wouldn't trample themselves to death.
  • We wished we could have used goo bombs to get everyone to keep everyone from trampling eachother.
  • We wished the proctors could have prevented some of the chaos
    • Nothing we are doing is against the rules. Can we anonymously inform the proctors ahead of time?
    • Could we have someone pretend to be a panicked civilian and ask a proctor for safety protocols?
      • Before deploying, could we have Bonku pretend to be someone in the know, who says that in any circumstance, even an explosion, proper procedure is to duck and cover until given orders by the proctors? Safer for everyone, including you! Getting further away from a proctor just makes you a target.
        • We might want to do this anyway. Keeps civilians from leaving.
  • We wished we could have split the crowd
    • Could we plant someone who loudly says "Follow Me!" from a direction away from the house?
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Unfortunately, we still don't have the time to do most of that.

@faflec Editted the plan, check it to make sure I've got everything filled out?
 
Cariyaga said:
Because Noburi will likely need chakra to use henge later on.

How does Living Roots help us avoid detection?
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Noburi can get chakra from Keiko or one of the STL members even. Henge doesn't cost that much and his CP is gradually decaying. That is, if he isn't already in henge anyway.

LR would ensure we don't deploy the tipserator close to anyone who happens to stand near the porch for whatever reason.

Also, can you add my suggestions for the list to the plan?
 
Tua said:
Noburi can get chakra from Keiko or one of the STL members even. Henge doesn't cost that much and his CP is gradually decaying. That is, if he isn't already in henge anyway.

LR would ensure we don't deploy the tipserator close to anyone who happens to stand near the porch for whatever reason.

Also, can you add my suggestions for the list to the plan?
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TBH I'm not sure about the list strats at all. Seems like it'd be just as effective to do so with existing cliques.

I'm not sure why LR would help ensure we not deploy tipserator close to anyone near the porch? The way I see it going, we emerge underneath the porch, toward the back where we're exceptionally unlikely to be seen. From there, we can see the people present
 
Cariyaga said:
Return to the marquee from underground. Check using tap codes with Keiko or Noburi from underground -- by emerging a hand from beneath their shoe -- whether anyone else is around.
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This is really risky and I don't like it. I would still suggest using Living Roots, or (if you don't like using that much chakra) emerging elsewhere at a safe distance to look.
Cariyaga said:
Suggest that the teams cooperate by sharing names of high scoring non-Leaf teams by sharing information. Targets of particular interest are Team Downfall, Team Mugiwara, those that Hazou gave intel on from the Oyabun before, and any other team that other members of STL want dealt with.
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You still haven't added Team Gensō (Team 8's targets); maybe we could barter focusing on them in exchange for their assistance? That could be useful.
 
Instead of blocking access to the door, we could do something like making sure it's unlocked, kept open, or break/unpin the hinges so that the doors will just fall open in case of stampede.
 
faflec said:
This is really risky and I don't like it. I would still suggest using Living Roots, or (if you don't like using that much chakra) emerging elsewhere at a safe distance to look.

You still haven't added Team Gensō (Team 8's targets); maybe we could barter focusing on them in exchange for their assistance? That could be useful.
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...Wait, what? How the heck is that risky at all?

Team Genso is part of Oyabun's Dossier that we shared with them, so it is naturally among those indicated.
 
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