How about a simple social strategy? Yoshida joins the group, looking more drunk and nursing a bottle, and starts a rumour that the heat makes Henge pop very quickly. We know it doesn't, but I doubt many of the contestants know how Henge behaves at higher temperatures, and the heat is obviously unnatural and might have unknown effects.

This should make the ninja less likely to disperse, and make them more nervous without setting off their combat reactions.

Speaking of the tipserators - @eaglejarl, @Velorien, @OliWhail, does Hazou foresee any issues with using Hiding Like a Mole to unleash the tisperator underground in a wide area dispersal near the crowd?

Again, Shikamaru has approved of this version, and he's not incorrect in assuming that Line of Sight won't be blocked by it.

If this is the predictable outcome, why did Shikamaru sign off on this? This isn't the case where he didn't understand the line of sight. I mean, people dying risks Leaf getting outright booted out of the exam entirely.

Shikamaru can be wrong. This situation is volatile to begin with. He doesn't actually know what will happen given a particular course of action, it's all estimates. He probably thinks a truly bad outcome is unlikely, but his model of how the candidates might behave may be imperfect, and unlikely doesn't mean impossible.
 
Mkay... protoplan.

Goals: Get the majority of the people here drunk without getting caught. Reduce the non-Leaf high ranking teams point scores. Get lots of points for Team Uplift.

Means:
  1. Use the Tipserator to get a bunch of ninja drunk. Don't get caught.
    • Hazou will use Hiding Like a Mole to get near where the crowd of herded ninjas and civilians should be, using the Tunneler's Friend to breath. He'll raise his hand with the tipserator ever so slightly above ground in a spot near where the herd should be, and release the tipserator in a wide area dispersal.
    • To assist with timing, request that Hinata use her Byakugan to let you know when the herd is beginning to gather in front of the mansion earnest. Be willing to trade a few seals for this if needed.
    • To assist with positioning, ask Keiko and Shikamaru where they think the best general 'side' of the crowd would be. (mansion side, gate side, or one of the other wides)
  2. Return to Super Team Leaf.
    • Go back underground, returning to the marquee. Check from a discreet location to ensure there's no proctors or witnesses to your emergence outside of the team.
    • Find out the results of the operation
    • Suggest that the teams cooperate to lower the scores of high scoring non-Leaf teams by sharing information. Targets of particular interest are Team Downfall, Team Mugiwara, and any other team that other members of STL want dealt with.
    • Express a general willingness to work together with the other teams to maximize point gain for STL. The better Leaf does in general, the more powerful Leaf appears.
  3. Continue the event, enacting various plots and schemes.
    • Write down lists detailing relevant information of the teams you want sabotaged. Have Bonku distribute them and post them up in public places.
    • Observe who is sweating and who isn't. Those who aren't are ninja.
    • Something something matchmaking service? (Idea - Spread a rumor about the service. With ninja identities already exposed, people might be more willing to take up this offer. In a break room, a member of Team Uplift will ask "who are you looking for" and direct people together, under a guarantee that the info won't leave your team. Net potential gain is 45 points for parties matched with this, and 10 points for each match for every member of Team Uplift.)
    • <Fill in more ideas here>

Someone else feel free to use this as a template. I'm going to be going to work soon, so won't have a chance to put up a proper plan for a while anyways.


Shikamaru can be wrong. This situation is volatile to begin with. He doesn't actually know what will happen given a particular course of action, it's all estimates. He probably thinks a truly bad outcome is unlikely, but his model of how the candidates might behave may be imperfect, and unlikely doesn't mean impossible.

Doesn't matter now. The QMs have indicated consequences for not using the tipserators, due to metagaming.
 
How about a simple social strategy? Yoshida joins the group, looking more drunk and nursing a bottle, and starts a rumour that the heat makes Henge pop very quickly. We know it doesn't, but I doubt many of the contestants know how Henge behaves at higher temperatures, and the heat is obviously unnatural and might have unknown effects.

This should make the ninja less likely to disperse, and make them more nervous without setting off their combat reactions.
Something simple and low key like this is probably ideal.



"Bonku, take these lists. Go hand them out, and put them in places in public view."
This should be done in concert with the tipserator so that it starts paying off once everyone is drunk. People will start getting mad.

My only concern is that some ninja may take great offense to this and inact some form of retribution.


So... wait. What are we planning now?

So we have to do the tipserator, since not doing so is dishonest due to OOC knowledge (and that @Velorien and @eaglejarl have threatened a time paradox if we act on it in such a gamey way).

Since the sake mist won't block line of sight, then it shouldn't cause them to panic and start killing people left and right.

Edit: And we need to do this in such a way that it doesn't get immediately glomped by enemy action.
 
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This should be done in concert with the tipserator so that it starts paying off once everyone is drunk. People will start getting mad.

My only concern is that some ninja may take great offense to this and inact some form of retribution.

It's going to have to happen afterwards, as we don't have time to write out physical lists right now. We can't keep the crowd herded indefinitely, and the heat is going to flow into their zone eventually. But it should be something we can do pretty quickly after we're done.
 
It's going to have to happen afterwards, as we don't have time to write out physical lists right now. We can't keep the crowd herded indefinitely, and the heat is going to flow into their zone eventually. But it should be something we can do pretty quickly after we're done.
Fair.


See comments on your protoplan below.

Mkay... protoplan.

Goals: Get the majority of the people here drunk without getting caught. Reduce the non-Leaf high ranking teams point scores. Get lots of points for Team Uplift.

Means:
  1. Use the Tipserator to get a bunch of ninja drunk. Don't get caught.
    • Hazou will use Hiding Like a Mole to get near where the crowd of herded ninjas and civilians should be, using the Tunneler's Friend to breath. He'll raise his hand with the tipserator ever so slightly above ground in a spot near where the herd should be, and release the tipserator in a wide area dispersal.
    • To assist with timing, request that Hinata use her Byakugan to let you know when the herd is beginning to gather in front of the mansion earnest. Be willing to trade a few seals for this if needed.
    • To assist with positioning, ask Keiko and Shikamaru where they think the best general 'side' of the crowd would be. (mansion side, gate side, or one of the other wides) Possibly redundant, we can ask Hinata to give an estimate based on the crowds position and velocity.
  2. Return to Super Team Leaf.
    • Go back underground, returning to the marquee. Check from a discreet location to ensure there's no proctors or witnesses to your emergence outside of the team.
    • Find out the results of the operation
    • Suggest that the teams cooperate to lower the scores of high scoring non-Leaf teams by sharing information. Targets of particular interest are Team Downfall, Team Mugiwara, and any other team that other members of STL want dealt with.
    • Express a general willingness to work together with the other teams to maximize point gain for STL. The better Leaf does in general, the more powerful Leaf appears.
  3. Continue the event, enacting various plots and schemes.
    • Write down lists detailing relevant information of the teams you want sabotaged. Have Bonku distribute them and post them up in public places.
      • If we know their identity, make the lists wanted posters and put the bounty as a coded cipher for their identity (use a very easily broken one).
    • Observe who is sweating and who isn't. Those who aren't are ninja.
    • Something something matchmaking service? (Idea - Spread a rumor about the service. With ninja identities already exposed, people might be more willing to take up this offer. In a break room, a member of Team Uplift will ask "who are you looking for" and direct people together, under a guarantee that the info won't leave your team. Net potential gain is 45 points for parties matched with this, and 10 points for each match for every member of Team Uplift.) Are we allowed to have more than one person in a break room at a time? Seems strange. I very much like this idea though since it can capitalize on others desperation.
    • <Fill in more ideas here>

What does everyone think? Is there anything more we can do with the above? Is there a way to hedge against any enemy action with the above?
 
As an alternative to HLaM, how about Keiko releases the Tipserator from the mansion's roof, and then escapes to the summon realm if she needs to? Or just use a clone and have it disperse afterwards? A real pity that Pangolin can't use seals.

Write down lists detailing relevant information of the teams you want sabotaged. Have Bonku

I feel like this might trigger MAD. The teams we want to hurt here are bound to have a lot of information on Leaf teams as well, and they definitely would retaliate by releasing it.
 
I feel like this might trigger MAD. The teams we want to hurt here are bound to have a lot of information on Leaf teams as well, and they definitely would retaliate by releasing it.

If we were to do this we would need to have 90% of the overall information be random garbage (and we would be giving out info on everyone) and have it be spot on for 2/3 of the dozen or so people we actually want to heavily lose (preferably proportioned by team ) .

That way it looks as though everyone is targeted when in reality a small fraction of useable information is released. It wouldn't necessarily be traceable back to us.

Also we can hedge our bets some more by applying this tactic toward the end of the event where there isn't much time left to counter it.
 
If there's enough wind, we could disperse the tipserator from upwind of the crowd of ninjas via hiding like a mole, and then return to a safe predetermined location as quickly as possible. That way we avoid becoming close enough to the crowd that someone could simply grab our hand as it comes above the surface, and we remain out of view. Given that the wind isn't fast enough to disperse the mist quickly enough that a tipserator wouldn't work in the first place, it shouldn't disperse it too much before it reaches the crowd, as long as we use the tipserator within a few dozen meters.
 
Deploy time delayed explosives
I knew people would start coming around!

Srsly tho, to minimise danger from tipserators, minimise the shock. Throw it high enough and it's just unsuspecting, odd-smelling rain; still likely to agitate, buy less likely to go maximally wrong.

Do the door-slam trick first, though, it's free points and pro-cooperation.
 
No one else interested in implicating Akatsuki as an enemy of all the present ninjas btw? Unite them later when our Villages go after their bijuu, while reaping the benefits of spooking them now.

It's a pretty low risk strategy, I think. But with tremendous potential pay off.

3) Bluff them into cancelling the event by using a similar method as above but instead of teams we want to eliminate, the text is going to simply read: "Akatsuki sends its regards. The Mori will get their due."*
  • Effect: Banking on the fact that the threat of Akatsuki is known to proctors, they might consider cancelling the event. The Mori line is thrown in to give the proctors something to think about; Mori being the Intelligence & Logicistcs clan it is a guarantee that they must have looked into Akatsuki and Akatsuki knows about it and is not happy about it.
To add to 3): It should be painfully obvious to any smart member in the crowd that one of the people in the exams wrote this. However, it does not mean that the threat is non-zero because Akatsuki is not just the handful of S-ranks like in canon here. Akatsuki is a big organization and it makes sense that they have agents in the exams - and if our suspicion is correct - that is at least Team Bloodrage.

So having all genin fall under scrutinity - while annoying at first - could be a huge boon in the long term plans of the quest to foil Akatsuki's plan and get Naruto back.

*alternative line if knowing about Akatsuki is considering OOC knowledge: "You think your bijuus are safe? The Great Prophet knows and sees all!"
 
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I think I like the idea of releasing the Tipserator from the mansion roof, angled diagonally up, and letting the alcohol mist float down to the contestants. It's safer and more controlled than HLAM, is not unlikely to mostly escape notice, as people don't look up, and Misterators don't make any noise as far as I know. The mist would also dilute somewhat before reaching the crowd, limiting their intoxication, and it wouldn't be quite so threatening.

@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail does this seem like it could work to Hazou, given the environment? Could it be done by a clone?

If we were to do this we would need to have 90% of the overall information be random garbage (and we would be giving out info on everyone) and have it be spot on for 2/3 of the dozen or so people we actually want to heavily lose (preferably proportioned by team ) .

That way it looks as though everyone is targeted when in reality a small fraction of useable information is released. It wouldn't necessarily be traceable back to us.

Also we can hedge our bets some more by applying this tactic toward the end of the event where there isn't much time left to counter it.

But if 90% of the information is random garbage, and contestants can verify that (by checking it against what they know), then how would they know which parts are correct, if any? It would look like an intentional disinformation attempt. If anything, this suggests that we might want to release a list of random garbage, where Hazou's identity is the only correct one.

Whether the list is traceable is also unimportant. If a top team sees their information (and of some other top teams) released, they will simply release all they have on the other top teams. Given how much in the limelight our team already is, I think this arms race would serve to hurt, rather than help us.

Your final point is giving me a headache, as I can already imagine innumerable lists floating around the mansion in the last half hour of the event.

No one else interested in implicating Akatsuki as an enemy of all the present ninjas btw? Unite them later when our Villages go after their bijuu, while reaping the benefits of spooking them now.

It's a pretty low risk strategy, I think. But with tremendous potential pay off.

I don't think Akatsuki is common knowledge to the extent that this could work. I'd be surprised if random proctors know about it. On the other hand, if word of this reaches the Kage themselves, they'd doubtless want to conduct an investigation, if only to figure out who's stupid enough to throw Akatsuki's name around like this for shits and giggles.

I think it carries too much of a risk of getting us to the retconned outcome, though via a different route.
 
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On the other hand, if word of this reaches the Kage themselves, they'd doubtless want to conduct an investigation, if only to figure out who's stupid enough to throw Akatsuki's name around like this for shits and giggles.

Yeah, that part is somewhat intended so we can put some pressure on Akatsuki/Team Bloodrage. I still think it'd be worth doing if we could guarantee a way it won't be followed back to us.
 
I think I like the idea of releasing the Tipserator from the mansion roof, angled diagonally up, and letting the alcohol mist float down to the contestants. It's safer and more controlled than HLAM, is not unlikely to mostly escape notice, as people don't look up, and Misterators don't make any noise as far as I know. The mist would also dilute somewhat before reaching the crowd, limiting their intoxication, and it wouldn't be quite so threatening.

@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail does this seem like it could work to Hazou, given the environment? Could it be done by a clone?

A single proctor on the roof will negate the entire thing. I don't see the roof as workable.
 
[X] Action Plan: Life is Marked for Death

Goals: Get the majority of the people here drunk without getting caught. Reduce the non-Leaf high ranking teams point scores. Get lots of points for Team Uplift.

Means:
  1. Use the Tipserator to get a bunch of ninja drunk. Don't get caught.
    • Hazou will use Hiding Like a Mole to get near where the crowd of herded ninjas and civilians should be, using the Tunneler's Friend to breath and Living Roots to detect for positioning. He'll raise his hand with the tipserator ever so slightly above ground in a spot near where the herd should be, and the release in a wide area dispersal.
      • Try to get some of Noburi's (or Keiko's) chakra to avoid chakra overdraw.
    • To assist with timing, request that Hinata use her Byakugan to let you know the optimal time to move (when the crowd is gathering). Be willing to trade a few seals for this if needed.
    • To assist with positioning, ask Keiko and Shikamaru where they think the best general 'side' of the crowd would be (mansion side, gate side, or one of the other wides).
  2. Return to Super Team Leaf.
    • Go back underground, returning to the marquee. Check from a discreet location to ensure there's no proctors or witnesses to your emergence outside of the team.
    • Find out the results of the operation.
    • Suggest that the teams cooperate to lower the scores of high scoring non-Leaf teams by sharing information. Targets of particular interest are Team Downfall, Team Mugiwara, Team Gensō, and any other team that other members of STL want dealt with. If possible, have accounted for this when using the tipserator, and try to get them in the blast radius.
    • Express a general willingness to work together with the other teams to maximize point gain for STL. The better Leaf does in general, the more powerful Leaf appears.
  3. Discuss the below plots/schemes.
    • Write down lists detailing relevant information of the teams you want sabotaged. Have Bonku distribute them and post them up in public places.
    • Observe who is sweating and who isn't. Those who aren't are ninja.
    • Something something matchmaking service? (Idea - Spread a rumor about the service. With ninja identities already exposed, people might be more willing to take up this offer. In a break room, a member of Team Uplift will ask "who are you looking for" and direct people together, under a guarantee that the info won't leave your team. Net potential gain is 45 points for parties matched with this, and 10 points for each match for every member of Team Uplift.)
    • <Fill in more ideas here>
  • Undid the shrinking since we're not getting bonus XP for shorter plans here.
  • Altered section 3 to be a discussion, not "us actually doing the thing".
  • Added suggestion to use Living Roots.
 
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A single proctor on the roof will negate the entire thing. I don't see the roof as workable.

And all it takes to negate the HLAM approach is a proctor with Living Roots; or just one looking down if we're unlucky. With the roof, at least we can try to survey it before engaging.

Meh, I'd really prefer just not to use the Tipserator directly, but the QMs have left us little choice in the matter.

Alright, I basically took @Enjou's proto-plan and cut it into pieces. Right now we are at 199 words which gets us that 5 bonus XP, which unfortunately means that it'll be difficult to add more to the "discuss plots" section. If you have suggestions I'll try to accomodate, but again: this will be difficult.

That's only for @eaglejarl's next update on Saturday.
 
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Meh, I'd really prefer just not to use the Tipserator directly, but the QMs have left us little choice in the matter.

Technically, all they said is that we have to use it so lets just half ass it and deploy the tipserator on SuperTeam Leaf.

EDIT: Doing this also helps us punch Shikamaru since he will have to deal with cloud.
 
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No one else interested in implicating Akatsuki as an enemy of all the present ninjas btw? Unite them later when our Villages go after their bijuu, while reaping the benefits of spooking them now.

It's a pretty low risk strategy, I think. But with tremendous potential pay off.
I don't think we have a way to model how they'd react to such a thing. Keep in mind they might have spies in the exams as well.

Lets focus on the exam instead of quasi political games that might backfire. Doing well in the exam is enough of a political pull.


@Roomba These are good points.

Perhaps we could set up some sort of blind sealed bid auction instead..?

We threaten to auction off " the location and guest list of the next party" to the highest bidder. The bidders will be bidding suggested guests on the guest list. We can do this through Bonku so anonymity is preserved. He will not accept info from servants. We can attend the auction so no one knows it is us. We will have Bonku check the information off from a list we provide to determine the highest bidder. The winner will get the "list" and the location of the "next party" (we bullshit that in character).


Edit: I am not super duper familiar with auction theory but if there was some way to game theoretically compel the ninja to play beyond the thought "if it's real and someone else gets it we're more fucked than we were before", because the contending voice on their shoulder would be "Nah that sounds like a bullshit trap lol"

There are certainly OPSEC concerns in the details of this but I think those would be solvable given an hour of thinking, what I'm most concerned about is if there is a way to actually leverage this successfully.

Just putting my thoughts down
 
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And all it takes to negate the HLAM approach is a proctor with Living Roots; or just one looking down if we're unlucky.

If one uses Living Roots, they still have to catch us, and they wouldn't use it without reason anyways. If one sees our hand, the only see a hand. HLaM is not unique to Hazou, so he doesn't become the only suspect - literally anyone with an Earth nature could potentially use it. Also, no plan is going to be foolproof here. I just see the use of HLaM to be the least likely to get us detected.
 
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