Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
- Location
- Under a Rock
Thats what makes it easy to spike. This trick won't last for hours. people are going to come back inside eventually.
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
We all know exactly what you're planning. You don't have to hide it.
You want to propose a massive barbecue where everyone is invited. You plan to serve spicy food so you can observe when people spit it out and determine whether or not they're ninja.
- Location
- Potato land
Nobody actually knows this, aside from the Leaf teams we've sparred with before the exam. We've yet to explode anything in Mist.
- Location
- Yes.
Except for Lizardbreath's reputation.
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
We used them to signal our location of the bunker in the Swamp of Minor Inconveniences
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Thugs to do:
There are enemy shinobi out to snipe our chance. Keiko, Shikamaru, shut up and multiply to defend against enemy action.
Akane, this is bigger than you.shut up and help us.
Perhaps we can leverage Shino the Bug Lad to aid us in some way.
A said otherwise
See:
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
So what I take from this is that as long as we don't use the tipserators, we could do things like set off a banshee in the hedge maze or fake a ninja fight and expect people to be agitated but still refrain from punching each other. We'd still have to figure out how to capitalize on the agitation that'd cause for it to be worth it, but it's a tool in our toolbox.
- Location
- Potato land
That's really thin. I'm almost inclined to believe that Kage are well informed regarding our capabilities and that comment by A is him finding an excuse to bring it up without revealing what he knows.
In any event, there's no reason for the exam participants or proctors to associate our team with explosives specifically.
- Location
- Yes.
The cons of doing it this way is that it's only a one-time thing, and there are gonna people who are Alert enough to prevent a reaction from being seen. Plus there's the fact that we won't be able to see them all, meaning those who do give reactions aren't gonna be visible to us. They'll be visible to Hinata, but Hinata already knows everyone.
OTOH tipserators are more long-lasting meaning we can gather information over the course of the Event. And while there is the risk that people are gonna do stupid bullshit, I don't think that risk is gonna correlate with us as it did during the retcon'd chapter.
- Location
- Phoenix, AZ
Cool. So, it looks like we can probably kill somewhere around a football field sized area of genin in one round. Just something to keep in mind during this rare instance that so many foreign genin are congregated in a football field sized area.
- Location
- Yes.
Unlikely, unless Shino was obfuscating stupidity:
Also query: What is the purpose of the mosquitoes?
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
- Location
- شوربة الدجاج المعكرونة
Could work since it would actively discourage people from leaving if they want to stick to their timid civilian selves.
Who is going to fire the seals though? We should keep Hazo close to the Herd (but not too close to get *accidentally* shanked) and someone with high stealth or a similar mole jutsu throw and recover the seals.
If Hazo is the only one that can do mole jutsu, then someone else needs to observe instead.
- Location
- Potato land
Let me just say that any situation comparable to the retconned chapter, with major injuries, the event cancelled, and a serious investigation in progress, is a loss for us. Even if Hazou is several degrees of responsibility removed from what actually sets things off, we will still be blamed by STL and Akane.
There may be a way to use the Tipserator without causing widespread panic, but I'm reluctant to do so. I still feel like we're sitting on a powder keg, juggling torches.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
To pop henges. I assume he hasn't done so personally, with his allies already, because it would be too easy to trace back to him, although we could suggest that too.
My ideas so far for mass-DQ:
- Ino Mindwalks a proctor, walks up to the group of proctors around them, and tells them (with appropriate codewords) that there are orders from the top that the event is to cancelled and the ninja returned to their barracks posthaste in light of this. Once they're outside the grounds, she releases the technique, and the proctor does her work for her in informing them that that was not actually the case, but they remain DQed.
- Shino, either with his allies or with natural insects, pops henges in mass.
- Sakura does a genjutsu thing. Infinite creativity applicable here.
- MEW a path leading to the gate, surrounding them. Probably a bad idea for collateral damage reasons and that it'd freak the ninja out.
Akatsunami
The Bonetatoist
- Location
- Brazil
I think we could use the tipserators and misterators, if they are outside, we just need to mist the closest doors to make people unwilling to get inside at least for some time, using windows is a ninja thing, as soon as they see mist/alcohol mist coming from the inside they would get a fair bit more inclined to stay where they are, and the mist woudn't just stay there, but should spread around getting a fair amount of people just a bit drunk, and that works in our favor as we keep trying to get reactions from them.
1. Keep in mind that we do not have infinite time to ask our allies for ideas here.
2. Getting the even cancelled would be bad for relations - Akane doesn't want anyone's hard work to be for naught, and I doubt Team Asuma or Team Kurenai would appreciate their hard work in this being cancelled either. (that's probably part of why everyone was so pissed off at us in the retconned timeline)
Understandable, given the need for consistency in worldbuilding. Though, IMO you should be forcing us to use the Tipserator here - people are backing out because of foreknowledge of what happened in the retconned timeline, being squeamish because of that. Can't negate the consequences of the prior plan that easily!
Speaking of the tipserators - @eaglejarl, @Velorien, @OliWhail, does Hazou foresee any issues with using Hiding Like a Mole to unleash the tisperator underground in a wide area dispersal near the crowd?
Again, Shikamaru has approved of this version, and he's not incorrect in assuming that Line of Sight won't be blocked by it.
Actually, since we haven't left yet, we could probably ask him "If I used Hiding Like a Mole to release the payload, where do you think would be the optimal location to do so relative to the crowd, to maximize effect while minimizing chances of being noticed?" It's a quick question, and would put some of the burden of the results on him.
2. Getting the even cancelled would be bad for relations - Akane doesn't want anyone's hard work to be for naught, and I doubt Team Asuma or Team Kurenai would appreciate their hard work in this being cancelled either. (that's probably part of why everyone was so pissed off at us in the retconned timeline)
Understandable, given the need for consistency in worldbuilding. Though, IMO you should be forcing us to use the Tipserator here - people are backing out because of foreknowledge of what happened in the retconned timeline, being squeamish because of that. Can't negate the consequences of the prior plan that easily!
Speaking of the tipserators - @eaglejarl, @Velorien, @OliWhail, does Hazou foresee any issues with using Hiding Like a Mole to unleash the tisperator underground in a wide area dispersal near the crowd?
Again, Shikamaru has approved of this version, and he's not incorrect in assuming that Line of Sight won't be blocked by it.
Actually, since we haven't left yet, we could probably ask him "If I used Hiding Like a Mole to release the payload, where do you think would be the optimal location to do so relative to the crowd, to maximize effect while minimizing chances of being noticed?" It's a quick question, and would put some of the burden of the results on him.
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
Sunk costs.
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I completely disagree. What happened was one of the best possible outcomes. We just need to preempt the fall our slightly. Preemptively break down shikamaru. Give ourself more deniability. Reduce the level of violence
Threnodist
occupying Haudenosaunee & Osage land she/her/hers
- Location
- Pittsburgh
Explain? Should they not be upset that their work would be wasted because Hazō messed up?
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
We are dealing with inherently irrational people that do not kowtow as easy to such points (regardless of their validity).
However, even from a utilitarian, Voldemort as fuck perspective, they are still extremely useful to us in their current state and thus we should preserve relations with them as best as possible.
- Location
- Yes.
Opinion: We should ask Keiko, given that Shikamaru would probably demand hours (or something similar) in exchange. Also, I think we owe him something less than 6 hours from the Second Event; no need to get even worse in debt.
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail A quick question: Do we know the location of any other stragglers/party-goers NOT in SuperTeam Leaf or the trapped area?
We're on a limited time frame, we don't have the time to explain high-abstract concepts to Akane right now. All we can do right this second is choose to either upset Akane, go along with Kei's promise for the sake of not doing so.