- Location
- Yes.
No: we suggested them during the Second Event (when hunting down other teams) but never actually used them.
We did, however, use an Alarm Seal during this Event, to startle ninjas into doing ninja things.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
We did, however, use an Alarm Seal during this Event, to startle ninjas into doing ninja things.
- Location
- Under a Rock
We have an interesting situation here.
Every ninja in the event is in a confined area, and hopefully isn't suicidally stupid. But that is a matter of time. A route to retreat through must be provided. Honestly, we have the opening, with the one guy trying to lead people away. That might be enough.
So people will probably be leaving in small groups into the heat. The people who leave will be mostly ninja, so they will scatter, and try to meet with teammates somewhere secret. That is probably the maze, or any secret places that they have arranged.
At the moment, our primary advantage is that we are mobile and they aren't.
Time to lock all the break rooms
EDIT: Spice all the food (With subtlety, using kitchen spices not pangolin peppers. We want surprised ninja, not puking guests)
SUPER GREAT IDEA:
Most the proctors are occupied. Send a cloned messenger to the Yakuza with a letter of every name we have overheard, asking if they recognize any.
Every ninja in the event is in a confined area, and hopefully isn't suicidally stupid. But that is a matter of time. A route to retreat through must be provided. Honestly, we have the opening, with the one guy trying to lead people away. That might be enough.
So people will probably be leaving in small groups into the heat. The people who leave will be mostly ninja, so they will scatter, and try to meet with teammates somewhere secret. That is probably the maze, or any secret places that they have arranged.
At the moment, our primary advantage is that we are mobile and they aren't.
Time to lock all the break rooms
EDIT: Spice all the food (With subtlety, using kitchen spices not pangolin peppers. We want surprised ninja, not puking guests)
SUPER GREAT IDEA:
Most the proctors are occupied. Send a cloned messenger to the Yakuza with a letter of every name we have overheard, asking if they recognize any.
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- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Yes and it had great results! We just need to make sure we don't get caught
No using banshees or any other non-approved thing.
Anyways, I think we might want to avoid using the tipserator in the middle of the crowd. To one side of it would probably be better, so as not to induce panic reaction from some ninja in the center due to "and suddenly mist". I'd either use it on the mansion side or the gate side, personally. The mansion side might coerce a few civilians to leave the grounds, without causing a bad stampede.
They won't be drunk that long - it's been explained that alcohol taken in that way will burn off pretty quickly.
And again, Shikamaru is ok with the tipserators this go round.
Yeah, basically putting them in a fog that was making them dizzy and obscuring their line of sight. Then someone suddenly taking advantage of that.
Anyways, I think we might want to avoid using the tipserator in the middle of the crowd. To one side of it would probably be better, so as not to induce panic reaction from some ninja in the center due to "and suddenly mist". I'd either use it on the mansion side or the gate side, personally. The mansion side might coerce a few civilians to leave the grounds, without causing a bad stampede.
They won't be drunk that long - it's been explained that alcohol taken in that way will burn off pretty quickly.
And again, Shikamaru is ok with the tipserators this go round.
Yeah, basically putting them in a fog that was making them dizzy and obscuring their line of sight. Then someone suddenly taking advantage of that.
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- UK
How is this a question? Has Kagome taught us nothing? Obviously we should use explosion tags.
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
[x] Poll: Disregard promises to Akane, focus on winning
Akane is simply too naive and short-sighted for us to be beholden to such promises (which, I might add, were made by Keiko). We should not sacrifice opportunities to come out ahead in the exams (and thus helping to secure Jiraiya's position politically and by extension our ability to use Leaf's resources to further our long-term goals) in order to satisfy her misguided conscience out of some silly romantic ideal that is itself misguided.
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- Yes.
I'm going to argue that from an OPSEC perspective it's better to use a tipserator from underground. That way it would seem as though it were ballooning from the ground, rather than being launched from a point (as a cone-shaped object).
Hm. One thing we could do if we want to be fuckwads is to (attempt to) frame Fur Trader Urahara (Mugiwara team leader) by using the Misterator under his feet, making it seem as though he's the cause.
Hm. One thing we could do if we want to be fuckwads is to (attempt to) frame Fur Trader Urahara (Mugiwara team leader) by using the Misterator under his feet, making it seem as though he's the cause.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
I think we need to respect Akanes wish for us to not abuse her ability to just DQ or murder everyone
Edit: As Veedrac has said though we need only observe who is a twitchy idiot to OOCPs that may pop up.
EDIT EDIT: we have not yet given a spanner in the works to fuck everyone's designs up so people are still plotting and it's very likely the faction aligned against us as well as team bloodrage or whoever else is going to try to take advantage of his situation.
Edit: As Veedrac has said though we need only observe who is a twitchy idiot to OOCPs that may pop up.
EDIT EDIT: we have not yet given a spanner in the works to fuck everyone's designs up so people are still plotting and it's very likely the faction aligned against us as well as team bloodrage or whoever else is going to try to take advantage of his situation.
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- Yes.
These ninjas are IN A CROWD this means when they startle THEY WILL BUMP INTO EACH OTHER startled ninjas hitting each other WILL START FIGHTS
- Location
- uk
Yes but fights in clear visibility will not last as long as previous ones; proctors will immediately shout "STOP THAT RIGHT NOW". And responsibility for any damage is clearly on the fighters. Soooo, this sounds good?
Like, we did the same exact play inside during this event, no one started a fight. Reasonable to do it again and if they do start a fight, that's 90% on them
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
I am confused. You say this, and then want us to use tipserators anyway?
- Location
- UK
I don't think this makes sense, given the Chūnin exams have gone on for a while without incident. If ninja really were that volatile, you wouldn't have one of the exam stages involve them all in a house at the same time.
This is not in any way comparable to a vision-impairing mist while drunk with an explosive tag going off overhead.
(Either way, such uncertainty is solvable by just asking teammates and whoever we cooperate with for opinions.)
- Location
- Yes.
The difference between THIS situation and the PREVIOUS one is that the ninjas were far more spread out than here. Right now there are like 200 people in a small area which makes things far more likely EVERYONE is going to bump into EVERYONE.Yes but fights in clear visibility will not last as long as previous ones; proctors will immediately shout "STOP THAT RIGHT NOW". And responsibility for any damage is clearly on the fighters. Soooo, this sounds good?
Like, we did the same exact play inside during this event, no one started a fight. Reasonable to do it again and if they do start a fight, that's 90% on them
The tipserators' contribution to this debacle was mainly the LOS-blocking effect, NOT the stampede.
- Location
- uk
You are team downfall. Someone has conveniently grouped up all contestants, except for a small group - most notably missing is the info trader Uji the Pimp and Jirayia-clone. Did they know in advance, are they scheming together? Interesting.
If you know that Jirayia-clone was Hazou, you can probably figure out the missing people are all leaf-nin.
Given that they're all missing, how do you make everything fall apart and make them take the blame?
You know that Hazou's callsign is exposives. Perhaps planting some delayed training tags at the edges of the crowd, and causing a panic could work out. In a crowd this dense, you can probably do it covertly enough; all it takes is bending over to fix your sandal; plant tag, cover with some dirt. Maybe go behind a tree to take a piss? Could put a stronger tag there for effect.
Umm, actually, I don't know how we prevent this. Perhaps we should borrow Hinata to watch out for that, and alert proctors the moment someone plants an explosive tag?
Are delayed explosive tags a thing?
If you know that Jirayia-clone was Hazou, you can probably figure out the missing people are all leaf-nin.
Given that they're all missing, how do you make everything fall apart and make them take the blame?
You know that Hazou's callsign is exposives. Perhaps planting some delayed training tags at the edges of the crowd, and causing a panic could work out. In a crowd this dense, you can probably do it covertly enough; all it takes is bending over to fix your sandal; plant tag, cover with some dirt. Maybe go behind a tree to take a piss? Could put a stronger tag there for effect.
Umm, actually, I don't know how we prevent this. Perhaps we should borrow Hinata to watch out for that, and alert proctors the moment someone plants an explosive tag?
Are delayed explosive tags a thing?
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
To clear up what I meant by that, I see Akane's opinion as a good shorthand for the effects our actions will have on our relations with SuperTeam Leaf. If what we do upsets Akane, I expect it to upset the rest of the Leaf genin we have vested interests in befriending.
I try to approach social situations carefully, with an eye in particular on predicting the reactions of other people and avoiding negative reactions. The line of questioning comes easily to me, and our relationship with SuperTeam Leaf is, if not as important as our performance on this event, not a negligible quantity.
I do not seek to hamstring us with Akane's opinion as a terminal value, but in a situation where we stand to lose great amounts of social capital for a gamble between marginal gains, great gains, and horrible failure I am not going to disregard our social capital. We already have an advantageous position, and you can see that I was also suggesting further ways to capitalize on the situation without risking as much the kind of social failure we had in the ex-canon chapter.
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- Yes.
Delayed explosives are a thing, but nobody is going to take the risk: Mist has full ability to literally DQ everyone there because of that one idiot's actions, should a Henge break and/or someone gets hurt.
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
@Enjou @faflec (not revisiting previous page to quote because MadScientist's post has it borked on mobile)
I'm not necessarily beholden to using particular methods like banshees or whatever, but I do think it would be beneficial to try and figure out ways to get people to leave the grounds nonviolently. They get DQd en masse, no one is hurt, and we are completely blameless.
I realize this is a tough goal and it might be difficult / infeasible to pull off, but the benefits are such that it (or other goals in this vicinity) at least merits time considering. I think we work best when collaboratively refining ideas, but if we're going to go back to shooting ideas down on the basis of not wanting them to get traction, I'll just write up the plan myself.
I'm not necessarily beholden to using particular methods like banshees or whatever, but I do think it would be beneficial to try and figure out ways to get people to leave the grounds nonviolently. They get DQd en masse, no one is hurt, and we are completely blameless.
I realize this is a tough goal and it might be difficult / infeasible to pull off, but the benefits are such that it (or other goals in this vicinity) at least merits time considering. I think we work best when collaboratively refining ideas, but if we're going to go back to shooting ideas down on the basis of not wanting them to get traction, I'll just write up the plan myself.
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- Yes.
If everyone gets DQd en masse wouldn't the Event just be cancelled again? That's the main reason I'm not considering how to get them to leave without inciting panic/violence.
- Location
- uk
Many contestants could be OK with everyone getting disqualified? It's basically the same as the event being cancelled, everyone gets a 200 point penalty which is irrelevant.
Also, if someone's stupid enough to cast a water jutsu during a stampede, you don't think they'd be stupid enough for this?
And thirdly I really think it could work and not get you disqualified. Esp if you have a mobility jutsu to leave the immediate area? Then even if everyone in the group is DQed, you just won big.
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- UK
So you're saying you want more violence? I'm up for that.