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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

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I think we should hold them until they finish training Snerra , at least do a one apprentice work action each for the experience and maybe waiting until we do all the odd places so they gain some wilderness survival experience
They already have? That happened like last turn.
 
You know, we might want to keep the Heart for a special occasion, when we learn some more powerful runes. Imagine it being used in combination with something like the Master Rune of Kingship to act as a record of runic knowledge and skill.

I'm all for going all in on the Underway.
 
Am I wrong in thinking that the Rune network will be badly disrupted during Chaos Incursion that somehow they degrade faster and run out of power because of the chaotic energies if that happen we can only make the Greedy One's Heart into a power source to power the runes.
 
So, a Griffon that eats Greedy Troll parts. And, apparently, has some form of control or influence over other Griffons, seeing how it seems to have caused every Griffon in this part of Norsca to go Troll hunting as well.

Not sure how long it'll take for Grimnir to finish, but at least a decade or two to prepare the logistics for mobilizing the entire Realms." Otrek says after a moment of contemplation.
Hmm. This decade we'll be finishing most of the Underway. Next decade, we can do a triple action, and might be able to start a Banner. Depending on when the Northern Throngs are expected to march, we might be able to finish it before they depart...

But even if they leave beforehand, something to help buff the part of the Throng that stays at home should probably be made, if only to compensate for the reduced numbers of available Dwarfs.
 
What about using the heart as the core for an engine? We could use it to power a huge motor-carriage or even a train in the Underway. Think of the (logistical) possibilities!
 
[Image] Help for envisionin the Griffon,
So for the people who want a bit of guidance on what the Griffon looks like from Turn 13 I was thinking mostly of

and



EDIT: credit to @EVA-Saiyajin for finding pics.

think the head and coloration of this one:

with the overall body plan and shape of this one

 
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Specialties: Talismanic Runes, Engineering Runes, Odd and Esoteric Runes.
We are going all in on the underway. I wonder what strategy we will go for?

Fjolla went for banners despite having an exceptional talent for Talismans and regretted trying to use them at first.

Dolgi make a bunch of pick axes and has a talent for Weapon Runes and Engineering Runes.

We could do what Dolgi did and make loads of pickaxes. Or maybe we can work with some engineers and make a rune digging machine?
 
What about using the heart as the core for an engine? We could use it to power a huge motor-carriage or even a train in the Underway. Think of the (logistical) possibilities!
The dwarfs don't have steam engines or anything like that currently. Closest would be Runes of animation/waking.
So, a Griffon that eats Greedy Troll parts. And, apparently, has some form of control or influence over other Griffons, seeing how it seems to have caused every Griffon in this part of Norsca to go Troll hunting as well.
I vote that it be named Skandranon.

And with the 3 free actions of research I'm all for dumping everything into the Underway this turn. We can scale back the next turn and do some research.
 
Am I wrong in thinking that the Rune network will be badly disrupted during Chaos Incursion that somehow they degrade faster and run out of power because of the chaotic energies if that happen we can only make the Greedy One's Heart into a power source to power the runes.
Theres no Rune Network or anything like in Boney's quest. Uh I draw more from Torroar or probably am closer in regards to how the Ancestors and Dwarfs operate if that makes sense? From what I've seen of his work idk what his headcanon is tbh.

*Remembers NO CAVALRY commandment and cries*
thats no Cavalry *.

cant forget the asterisk :^v
 
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So, a Griffon that eats Greedy Troll parts. And, apparently, has some form of control or influence over other Griffons, seeing how it seems to have caused every Griffon in this part of Norsca to go Troll hunting as well.
My take on the Griffons at this point is that if they don't kill dwarves, cool, we don't need to care. They're troll eating creatures and we have a troll problem. Leave it be and do other stuff basically.


How about this?


or this

Or perhaps this?

Surprising amount.


One more for the road
Oh that last one is really good.
 
Honestly all I see when I read about hearth is using it with runic combo that amplifies our productivity trait
 
We are going all in on the underway. I wonder what strategy we will go for?

Fjolla went for banners despite having an exceptional talent for Talismans and regretted trying to use them at first.

Dolgi make a bunch of pick axes and has a talent for Weapon Runes and Engineering Runes.

We could do what Dolgi did and make loads of pickaxes. Or maybe we can work with some engineers and make a rune digging machine?

I quite like the idea of power tools. Drills with the Rune of Animation, Rune of Cleaving, and Rune of Impact.
 
I would onto our apprentices for 2 more turns, then consider letting them go after that. Two turns would substantially polish them more under teachings as well as indirectly protect them a bit more.

I definitely feel we should forge each of them something useful for their talents. Dont know what, but it fits in too well for our gift giving tendencies.
 
- Greedy One's Heart Trait Revealed, Pulling from the Deep: Energy eternal, drawing without end from the deepest places of the earth and the oldest magics. Whatever Rune is made from this baleful thing will not only be incredibly powerful, beyond even the scope of the original rune, but also never falter, never cease, and endure until the world's ending.
Definitely thinking of putting it on a golem. We can create a Guardian of the Dawi that will never falter, never cease and endure till the world's end. That sounds pretty cool on a golem.

Plus IMO a golem represents the greatest concentration of runecraft we are capable of with the golem itself stacked with a talisman, weapon, armour and potentially a banner.
 
Definitely thinking of putting it on a golem. We can create a Guardian of the Dawi that will never falter, never cease and endure till the world's end. That sounds pretty cool on a golem.

Plus IMO a golem represents the greatest concentration of runecraft we are capable of with the golem itself stacked with a talisman, weapon, armour and potentially a banner.

I'd quite like to adapt the Master Rune of Animation to make a mech/power armour that a dwarf can wear.
 
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