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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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If we're going to make a Grimnir gronti then we should make it before he disappear permanently imo. Especially if we want it to be an icon of Grimnir the Valiant rather than the Doomed.
 
Jreengus said:
Let us add another set of 3 runes to it and potentially increase the power of any set bonus by 1 extra piece, armour runes can be offensive, for example:
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TehChron said:
Give additional oomph to whatever Runes we want to slap on it?
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LaggPlaguedDuke said:
Clothing mostly unless we wanted to sculpt the armor onto the gronti itself. Plus as others said, 3 more runes.
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When we could outfit 4 dwarves who'd also benefit from the armour, it seems like an expensive use of adamant.
 
Verdom said:
If we're going to make a Grimnir gronti then we should make it before he disappear permanently imo. Especially if we want it to be an icon of Grimnir the Valiant rather than the Doomed.
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*puts hat over heart*
I'm sorry to inform you Grimnir is already gone. (ok practically gone, he is presumably still slaughtering demons on the pole but well ..)

Atm. my dream proposal for the Gronti is "M. Awaken the Legend of Grimnir", as history obsessed as dwarfes are there must be a rune of legend/recordkeeping/story. But what I care most about is the ingredient for the (hypothetical) Legend rune are stories told/sung by longbeards.

(I want read about an awakening giant murder robot accompanied by choral chanting! sue me!)
 
Dark as Silver said:
When we could outfit 4 dwarves who'd also benefit from the armour, it seems like an expensive use of adamant.
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The entire gronti is an expensive use of adamant, if the goal is efficient adamant usage we should just make a bunch of equipment with it. Though I don't see the thread committing to massive amount of actions that would take, realistically the choice is more likely between adamant armour for the gronti or 12 bars sitting in our vault.
 
The two Gronti researches come before the Gronti, and as they both proc off of Journyman of the Odd, I'd wager we should spend 2 actions next turn finishing up Odd Places in the hope of upgrading the trait.
 
One thing i'd want for the Golem's equipment is the rune we get from Wardstone.

So that when a Sorcerer scries, they see the Heartguard coming, but then get the Golem.
Surprise!
 
IronFist said:
I don't want to make the giant adamant gronti, because it's a giant vanity project without a T5 to power it.

But i know I'm in the minority, so... Eh whatever.
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You are not alone in not wanting to make the giant adamant robot. Though my take is even with a T5 I wouldn't want to lol.
 
IronFist said:
I still don't particularly want it, even with a T5.

If the KotS armor is enough Gromril to beggar Clans... what is an Adamant Gronti? But Democracy..
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I don't think an Adamant Gronti is democracy. :p

Or at least I don't envision democracy as a bloodthirster-sized indestructible super wrecking ball that might as well be made of money with how expensive it is.
 
We still have a T5 brain lying around.

We still haven't researched it to know what it's good for.

For all we know it would be perfect for a gronti; increasing it's autonomous decision-making ability and/or fighting with more skill.

Or maybe it wouldn't be useful for a Gronti, but we won't know till we do the research.




And yes. It is something of a vanity project.
But that just makes me more committed to making it a battlefield asset worth the expense.

Are we considering a Banner with M.Rune of Taunting? If the enemy army basically feeds itself to it, that would be... effective.

We'd need to make sure one of it's weapons was designed for continuous AOE work, but still...
 
Sir LagsAlot said:
Or at least I don't envision democracy as a bloodthirster-sized indestructible super wrecking ball that might as well be made of money with how expensive it is.
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I do. :smile2:

Maybe it is a vanity project, but I want Snorri to capture the feeling he and we had when we first saw Grimnir.

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A single Dwarf marches at the very fore, six truly ancient dwarf soldiers behind him one of whom held aloft a banner bearing his personal Rune, glowing a vibrant light blue.

He is unmistakable, in his Ancestor wrought armour glittering the silver of Adamant. Holding his two legendary axes in each hand. A third, longer, axe is strapped to his back, the wicked edge just barely visible behind the flowing red cloak on his back. His white, braided and richly decorated beard and forked mustache sticking out from his helmeted head.

As you get closer you can begin to make out ever more detail, the depictions of battle engraved on his chest plate, the sagas sung in his name etched so finely and such a small size that they appear like scales on him. The blurry form of the Runes, ones of such complexity and power that only Thungni himself could have crafted them, glowing on his equipment befuddle even you. Their might and intricacy make you feel like a beardling in comparison.

(Roll, Grimnir Looks at your Defences: 62 +20[A Honed Mind] =82. DC 70, 80, 90)

Eventually, he and his honour guard stop in front of the king, not two meters away from your party. Now so close you can see the glinting Gromril of his chainmail, actually read the stanzas of the sagas on his breastplate, witness the immaculate state of his beard, behold the fine weaving of his cloak, and better make out the indecipherable Runes adorning every piece of his equipment. Some you can make a fair guess as to their purpose, others like the Various Master Runes, one for each piece of equipment, are so beyond you that it is laughable to even try and attempt to decipher them.

He stands barely a head taller than you, but it feels like staring at, not a mountain, but one of THE mountains. A pillar of your people, the eldest of the elderly, the most skillful of the skilled. A dwarf whose stories take longer than a lifetime to tell in their totality.

An Ancestor.

Grimnir.
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And in light of that nothing but the best is acceptable.
 
Enthusiast#117 said:
We still have a T5 brain lying around.

We still haven't researched it to know what it's good for.

For all we know it would be perfect for a gronti; increasing it's autonomous decision-making ability and/or fighting with more skill.

Or maybe it wouldn't be useful for a Gronti, but we won't know till we do the research.




And yes. It is something of a vanity project.
But that just makes me more committed to making it a battlefield asset worth the expense.

Are we considering a Banner with M.Rune of Taunting? If the enemy army basically feeds itself to it, that would be... effective.

We'd need to make sure one of it's weapons was designed for continuous AOE work, but still...
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Doesn't a bloodthirster sized weapon automatically constitute an AOE attack?

I don't think it needs an AOE weapon tbh. It's meant to kill other Giants, and is basically immune to chaff anyway.
Just put, idk Master Rune of Infernos on it's Armor and things that aren't worth hitting with a weapon will probably just be on fire anyway.

And if taunting wasn't a Master rune... i'd say put it on the Golem itself with a rune of speech so it can Trash talk enemies. But alas...
 
I want anything we make of the Ancestors to capital L last, eventually make a bloodthirster sized adamant gronti of every ancestor god by the time the quest ends.
 
Enthusiast#117 said:
We still have a T5 brain lying around.

We still haven't researched it to know what it's good for.

For all we know it would be perfect for a gronti; increasing it's autonomous decision-making ability and/or fighting with more skill.

Or maybe it wouldn't be useful for a Gronti, but we won't know till we do the research.
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Yah this I am really curious about and if it true then it could truly carry on legend of grimnir the valiant which is main reason I want to do that, to push against doomed narrative.
 
Short question. Why does the Gronti have to look like Grimnir? I'm just wondering, if it isn't slightly presumptuous to build one in the image of our literal God when even his fellow Ancestor Gods and their direct descendents haven't done so.
 
tri2 said:
I want anything we make of the Ancestors to capital L last, eventually make a bloodthirster sized adamant gronti of every ancestor god by the time the quest ends.
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That's why the Rune of Repair research is so exciting! If we can give an Adamant Gronti even just non-combat-speed regen ability, not even the accumulation of scratch damage over the ages will do it in.
 
LaggPlaguedDuke said:
MSpite on the armor is also a a decent option with taunting on the banner. Just have everything gang up on the indestructable gronti and explode themselves when they hit it.
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MSpite doesn't work like that. It doesn't reflect attacks, it reflects damage. "Whenever the wearer suffers damage their attacker suffers that damage twice fold." So unless the enemy is actually capable of damaging the Gronti a MSpite would be worthless.
 
UlseDovThur said:
MSpite doesn't work like that. It doesn't reflect attacks, it reflects damage. "Whenever the wearer suffers damage their attacker suffers that damage twice fold." So unless the enemy is actually capable of damaging the Gronti a MSpite would be worthless.
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Huh, I've been assuming it was hits this whole time. Nvm then. There probably is an attack reflecter rune out there somewhere right? Unlikely we'll find it in time for the gronti but it should exist if MSpellspite can do that to magic.
 
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