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That's a good 2000 years from now. So probably not. At this time either some Fimir boy or Beast Lord. Humans haven't really become much of a thing yet. I suppose we might get some early Humans but they kinda suck for a while.
I mean, that's kind of the point of Dwarf masterworks?

We expect the Royal Panoply to last into perpetuity as well

Arguing about that kind of timescale is kinda missing the point of dawi craftsmanship in the first place
 
Currently, we have 32 Adamant Bars according to the Vault. Which is actually enough to make the fully Adamant, Bloodthirster-sized Gronti, according to the FAQ Cost List.

If we want Armor and (presumably two) weapons made of Adamant, that'd be another 18 Bars.
hmmm, maybe ditch adamant for the full armor and instead just adamant weapons and a banner? just use enough adamant to grant boost to a bloodthirster sized gromril armor instead. no need for adamant toughness for armor after all with adamant full body.
 
It is better to be prepared before tribulations come. Also our Hearthguard could use another bonus to rolls.
hmmm, maybe ditch adamant for the full armor and instead just adamant weapons and a banner? just use enough adamant to grant boost to a bloodthirster sized gromril armor instead. no need for adamant toughness for armor after all with adamant full body.

Not going to be an issue by the time we get around to studying the brain and researching the deep magic.
 
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hmmm, maybe ditch adamant for the full armor and instead just adamant weapons and a banner? just use enough adamant to grant boost to a bloodthirster sized gromril armor instead. no need for adamant toughness for armor after all with adamant full body.
I don't think it's so much for the toughness as the boost to rune function that Adamant gives.
 
18 Bars is 'only' 9 turns, and we are almost certainly going to spread the making of the Grimnonti+Equipment out over several turns.
 
and how long is that if we build a new smelter?(we can't do it right now for obvious reasons, I am just curious)
Our first 2 smelter both got us one bar every 2 turn. Then the dragon blood smelter gave us 1 bar a turn so currently we get 2 bars a turn. Another dragon blood smelter means that we get 3 bars a turn.
 
Wouldn't it be three bars one turn, two bars the next, due to the ordinary smelter needing that decade to recharge? Wait never mind I'm a dumbas, forgot we had 2 ordinary ones.
 
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Something to remember is that when building smelters every extra action that goes beyond the 4 ones required to build each one serves as progress to build a second one.

So we can actually make up to 2 smelters in a row, which would double the amount of Adamant produced each turn, making it much easier to go really wild with some of our projects.
 
The rule of pride also applied when we build the first model of smelter, and @soulcake confirmed that we can build another one with the extra actions without breaking it...
[ ] Helter Smelter: You're sure there's a way to more efficiently produce more Adamant, but as it is you can create at least one more smelter to increase your overall throughput. Having one work while the other recharges for instance. You can at least make one or two more before you start feeling as if you're running afoul of the Rule of Pride. [Cost: 3 actions, 1 Voidstone] Productivity Like No Other will proc. +1 Bar of Adamant every Turn instead of every other Turn. (Will count the turn it was done on) Overflow will only add progress to the next smelter and cost another Voidstone.
So I am guessing that til will also work with the upgraded version.
 
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T5 brain in fully adamant gronti with Lahetro eyes?

We might as well dump all the best legendary materials stuff into it's creation. Might make a grimnir 2.0 which would be perfect when we use it to relieve him from his eternal battle against the endless daemonic hordes.
 
The rule of pride also applied when we build the first model of smelter, and @soulcake confirmed that we can build another one with the extra actions without breaking it...
Runesmiths, especially Runelords are above such petty rules lawyering.

It is the specific rune combination that matters to Snorri.

Remember that this is a literal religion for him, and Snorri is more or less a fanatic.
 
Some posters have put forward an argument that making it in his image is supposed to be beneficial. It goes something like this: as his final act, Grimnir took off his armour and left on a mission that was sure to result in his death. In the future, ppl in this thread say, dwarfs who feel they've dishonoured themselves will emulate him as a form of socially acceptable suicide, marching off bare-chested to die gloriously in a fight with the biggest baddest monster they can find. This is bad, and it would be better if shamed dwarfs could recover their honour without killing themselves. The giant robot is supposed to help in this respect by being an extremely prominent representation of Grimnir as he was before he set of on his suicide mission, hopefully entrenching the idea of Grimnir the general in people's minds and making Grimnir the death-seeker less culturally prominent. This, it is hoped, would in turn make dwarfs less predisposed to suicide and more likely to go about redeeming themselves in some more contructive way. I personally don't believe this argument holds water, because it's basically just putting up a really huge billboard and doesn't offer any kind of explanation for Grimnir's final act that might compete with the lessons dwarfs will otherwise draw from it, but this is the case for Grimninator 2000 as presented to the thread.
I could easily see it offering an explanation for Grimnir's final act. I imagine much like the various stories Snori has written on previous armor commission he would do that on the Gronti. With that much play space he could probably write out the full saga of Grimnir's final act. He could even incorporate the things Grimnir said to himself and his king.
 
It's funny how Yorri decided to hold a short conversation by yelling across a room filled with other Dwarves.

But it's a pretty good way of fitting his epithet.

I just couldn't help but keep thinking "why are you shouting across the room?"
 
T5 brain in fully adamant gronti with Lahetro eyes?

We might as well dump all the best legendary materials stuff into it's creation. Might make a grimnir 2.0 which would be perfect when we use it to relieve him from his eternal battle against the endless daemonic hordes.
An Adamant golem with no armor extra armor or other runes besides awakening and using no special materials should be fair more durable then Snorri is in his mountain soul armor. But yes it would be cool to add on all the bells and whistles. They should just not be focused on defense that is already taken care of by default.
 
Honestly? "Just" A giant golem would be a fantastic starting point. Like, for all it'll be lesser than it could be?

It's a bloodthirster sized golem of Adamant. It'll hold it's own with just MR Waking and 2 whatevers. We don't need to really worry about, you know. It underperforming while we stock up more Adamant if we don't do it all at once.
 
Does having clothes inbuilt ruin the anatomically correct part?
Cos if so we would still have to make some armour, unless we want to send out a naked Gronti...
 
Hey I have a weird question about how old are the rest of the Runelords in comparison to Snorri?
is him feeling like a beardling next to them just in his head or are there actually Runelords way way older than him?
 
Hey I have a weird question about how old are the rest of the Runelords in comparison to Snorri?
is him feeling like a beardling next to them just in his head or are there actually Runelords way way older than him?
Its a mixed bag, given that these conclaves seem to be happening every 200/300 years there are probably two 'generations' of younger Runesmiths than him. One of those being especially large because it was promoted in the wake of the casualties of the Chaos Incursion.
However there are plenty of older ones. But we don't exactly have demographic information so we have no way of saying actually how many there are.
 
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