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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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Mr8 said:
Random thought that I had the other day, and the discussion kinda reminded me of it.

Do you think Snorri would leave Kraka Drakk to go become the Runelord of a new hold as part of the expansion wave. Say, if/when dwarf colonisation extends further west along the Norscan peninsula.

I honestly am not sure what his IC position would be.

Then there would be factors like if someone like an Ancestor asked him. Or maybe the next best thing in Snorri Whitebeard or Alric.

Dunno, interesting thought bubble I thought I'd ask the thread about. Note: I'm not proposing it, but simply asking what you think.
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Ehhh, I doubt it. One of our Runelords moving out to become the primary Runelord of a new Hold? Certainly possible. The most senior Runelord in the hold, and the North in general, moving shop to serve at a new Hold? Much less likely.
 
TheDuke said:
Ehhh, I doubt it. One of our Runelords moving out to become the primary Runelord of a new Hold? Certainly possible. The most senior Runelord in the hold, and the North in general, moving shop to serve at a new Hold? Much less likely.
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Weirdly, that was Snorri's original plan.
soulcake said:
You've volunteered to stay here and keep an eye on things with plans to join your fellows up north in a century or two
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@soulcake, two questions:

Could we requisition a Winter Wolf heart? The big guys Ulric likes.

And, in Snorri's opinion, would KotS' Crest feathers work as a reagent for MTraversal? If so, what is his educated guess about how it might change the rune's function?
 
Dark as Silver said:
We might know the wolves exist without know that Ulric likes them.
Its pretty meta that Snorri would show an interest, especially with the long list of ingredients he already has to research, and we don't have any particular great reason that we want them.
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Yeah I agree. There shouldn't be a reason why we can't ask for something like them. Just describe a large beast (canine) with the properties of frost, winter and cold. The only problem I see is that they might not exist. Those wolves are sacred animals of Ulric and might not have existed before the ulrican faith started.

*shrugs*

Normally I would say that the wolves existed and were attributed to Ulric afterwards, but we can't know for sure in a world where belief, faith and emotion affects reality.

What we can be sure of is that the DC will be extremely hard to clear. They are native to Middenland, which is quite far away.
 
I just had a thought.

If the Branakroki spread out, across the old world, they will inevitably outcompete other similarly sized predators
- Intelligent
- Regeneration
- Access to three winds of magic
- Runes and Armor
- Fortified nests
- Dwarf support

Which means that in the future, Griffons, Hippogriffs, Wyverns and Manticores will probably be much rarer.

Only dragons can compete, and even then, Dragons are typically solitary.

What other predators might go extinct because of the Branakroki?
 
IronFist said:
What other predators might go extinct because of the Branakroki?
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giant wolves and bears might not like the competition, but might occupy a different niche in what prey they hunt.
otherwhise, I would say the giant bats of Sylania (the one vampires like to resurect) would face stiff competition, demigryphs might not be to happy, and of course the beastmen have an almost unlimited variaty in gribblies and monstrosities.
Last but not least, Troll Country might one day be known under a different name, on account of all trolls being jerky.
 
IronFist said:
I just had a thought.

If the Branakroki spread out, across the old world, they will inevitably outcompete other similarly sized predators
- Intelligent
- Regeneration
- Access to three winds of magic
- Runes and Armor
- Fortified nests
- Dwarf support

Which means that in the future, Griffons, Hippogriffs, Wyverns and Manticores will probably be much rarer.

Only dragons can compete, and even then, Dragons are typically solitary.

What other predators might go extinct because of the Branakroki?
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Not sure if the Branaroki are going to spread out that far though. Their population growth seems to be about on par with the Dwarfs, so they'll probably encompass the Northern Holds eventually, but don't see them spreading terribly far beyond that without a great deal more time. Not to mention they're very naturally in tune with the Winds. I can't see them wanting to expand too far South, where the Winds grow weaker and weaker the further from the Polar Gates you get. They'd probably want to stay relatively close to where the KoTS roosts as well, which is to say Kraka Drakk.
 
ja.b.n. said:
giant wolves and bears might not like the competition, but might occupy a different niche in what prey they hunt.
otherwhise, I would say the giant bats of Sylania (the one vampires like to resurect) would face stiff competition, demigryphs might not be to happy, and of course the beastmen have an almost unlimited variaty in gribblies and monstrosities.
Last but not least, Troll Country might one day be known under a different name, on account of all trolls being jerky.
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in a earlier update it mentioned how it getting harder to find troll material and is off a lower quality then earlier in quest because of the fact that troll county is not really troll county anymore with dwarves and brana killing most of them so yah troll county is something else entirely now
 
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BelligerentGnu said:
@soulcake, two questions:

Could we requisition a Winter Wolf heart? The big guys Ulric likes.

And, in Snorri's opinion, would KotS' Crest feathers work as a reagent for MTraversal? If so, what is his educated guess about how it might change the rune's function?
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1. They don't range in known Dwarf territory. So you don't know they exist.
2. There is an arguement about it being possible. Whether it'll be a straight upgrade or an alteration of the intended effect he can't say. Theres a thematic difference between a Pegasus and Brana, though considering its a part of a Brana most associated with flying...
tldr: Rune won't be worse but its a toss up between straight upgrade or altered but equally potent effect.
 
Now I kinda want to try KotS feathers on the banner for the Hearth Guard, even though we already ordered that T4 pegasus heart. Glancing at the rune list the only thing I can think we would use the pegasus heart for if not the banner might be a mobility focused gronti.
 
tri2 said:
we might honestly have to consider starting a troll farm to keep them alive for future hunts.
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What. No.
First off, don't underestimate Trolls. Second off, why wouldn't we just ranch cattle or goats for them?
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Theres a thematic difference between a Pegasus and Brana
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I started to make a joke about it only working when moving towards the enemy, then I remembered our relentless pursuit combo. And Griffon feathers are the normal Grimnir rune ingredient. So that actually sounds pretty likely.
 
soulcake said:
1. They don't range in known Dwarf territory. So you don't know they exist.
2. There is an arguement about it being possible. Whether it'll be a straight upgrade or an alteration of the intended effect he can't say. Theres a thematic difference between a Pegasus and Brana, though considering its a part of a Brana most associated with flying...
tldr: Rune won't be worse but its a toss up between straight upgrade or altered but equally potent effect.
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Okay, that's cool. Are there any monstrous wolves in the area? Or failing that, some other creature known for their endurance?

Jreengus said:
Now I kinda want to try KotS feathers on the banner for the Hearth Guard, even though we already ordered that T4 pegasus heart. Glancing at the rune list the only thing I can think we would use the pegasus heart for if not the banner might be a mobility focused gronti.
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Remember we are also eventually planning on making ourselves an MWandering Talisman.
 
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This is Warhammer, people. We aren't running out of monsters when we live next to the wibbly wobbly timey wimey perpetual motion machine that is the Chaos Wastes.

Or if we do, that's so far in the future Grombrindal looks like a beardling in comparison to how far off that is.
 
ArchAIngel said:
This is Warhammer, people. We aren't running out of monsters when we live next to the wibbly wobbly timey wimey perpetual motion machine that is the Chaos Wastes.

Or if we do, that's so far in the future Grombrindal looks like a beardling in comparison to how far off that is.
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their a difference between their are gonna be beastmen in forest and other scary stuff to norsca level of beasties and troll county which both according to thread posts have been massively culled by brana and dwarves to point where snorri notes how it getting harder to find regants from trolls (just to clarify this is what I was talking not that norsca being ulthuan or something which even then still has big monsters in mountains or that we will one day not find any ingredients)
 
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Woltaire said:
their a difference between their are gonna be beastmen in forest and other scary stuff to norsca level of beasties and troll county which both according to thread posts have been massively culled by brana and dwarves to point where snorri notes how it getting harder to find regants from trolls (just to clarify this is what I was talking not that norsca being ulthuan or something which even then still has big monsters in mountains or that we will one day not find any ingredients)
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the monsters of the Annulii Mountains are drawn to this realm as to no other; scarcely a day passes without an attack by some dread creature.

This is about Avelorn. Literally the seat of power of the Everqueen.
Even getting it to Ulthuan safe is in no way safe.
Secondly, I think you're significantly overestimating how safe we can actually get it.
 
Dark as Silver said:
Article:
the monsters of the Annulii Mountains are drawn to this realm as to no other; scarcely a day passes without an attack by some dread creature.

This is about Avelorn. Literally the seat of power of the Everqueen.
Even getting it to Ulthuan safe is in no way safe.
Secondly, I think you're significantly overestimating how safe we can actually get it.
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Yeah....that was my point and why I brought it up... sorry, I was not clear...

Okay, sorry I am being unclear; I am saying that the norsca level of danger is severely reduced in core norsca dwarf territory, not middle third or part not settled, and that multiple thread post has been saying that, the troll one, dwarf longbeard being fine with children in amberhold, etc. There will always be some danger, for example, the latest beastmen invasion, but things are much safer than they were in the past, and I am not commenting on future safety, just present safety... I hope this clear things up
 
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TheDuke said:
Not sure if the Branaroki are going to spread out that far though. Their population growth seems to be about on par with the Dwarfs, so they'll probably encompass the Northern Holds eventually, but don't see them spreading terribly far beyond that without a great deal more time. Not to mention they're very naturally in tune with the Winds. I can't see them wanting to expand too far South, where the Winds grow weaker and weaker the further from the Polar Gates you get. They'd probably want to stay relatively close to where the KoTS roosts as well, which is to say Kraka Drakk.
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I did the math on their population growth a while back and they seem to reproduce at something like 1% to 2% per year IIRC I'd have to track down the post again to get exact numbers but they ain't exactly slow breeders from what I can tell.
ArchAIngel said:
This is Warhammer, people. We aren't running out of monsters when we live next to the wibbly wobbly timey wimey perpetual motion machine that is the Chaos Wastes.

Or if we do, that's so far in the future Grombrindal looks like a beardling in comparison to how far off that is.
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This, the day we can't find more monsters to hunt is the day we've won and Chaos has died.
 
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