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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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IronFist said:
The Prince has two items of ours. A T4 cloak and T3 armor. A weapon, a Shield and a talisman are all possibilities that could combo.

Master Rune of Currents probably synergizes pretty well with it, although ideally I'd want Everfrost... but we don't know that, unfortunately.
On a shield, we could put Master Rune of Blizzards, which should synergize with Hailmantle, given it's the same effect.
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It could be cool to compress Wyrrakdrengi into a master rune and throw that on a shield for the heir:
soulcake said:
Combo, Wyrrakdrengi: [Master Rune of Blizzards, Rune of Impact, Rune of Speed] The bearer can launch themselves forward at incredible speeds, forming a Gromril hard ice spike at a desired point on the armour.
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It would let the shield double as a weapon, synergise with Hailmantle and hopefully let the heir keep up with the king in his belt of zoominess.
 
Jreengus said:
But it's explicitly designed to passed on to the next prince and then the next prince and so on gradually filling up the scales with their deeds, reminding the future princes of the actions of their forebears before they were king. Retiring it defeats the entire point of that design, the only real chink where we could justify replacing it is when it is no longer able to fulfill that purpose.
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Well regardless I don't even want to replace their armor I want to replace their cloak.
 
Sir LagsAlot said:
Well regardless I don't even want to replace their armor I want to replace their cloak.
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Why? It's T4

Jreengus said:
It could be cool to compress Wyrrakdrengi into a master rune and throw that on a shield for the heir:
It would let the shield double as a weapon, synergise with Hailmantle and hopefully let the heir keep up with the king in his belt of zoominess.
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I looked into it actually. The king's armor is Adamant with Master Rune of Gromril on it... there's a LOT that can just Tank. If we're making a shield, it should not be something that doubles as a weapon, given the T3 armor (even if it has MR. Gromril too...).
Maybe if we can get a hold of the Rune that lets Valma's Gronti make Walls... we could adapt that and make the shield double up to create instant ice fortifications.
 
Jreengus said:
The heirs cloak? Why? It seems pretty good to me a, legendary with a solid combo on it.
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No the king's that's what I've been grumbling about I don't even know how the topic of the heir's armor came up it's both the wrong person and the wrong item.

Edit: Another person brought it up and I wasn't paying enough attention when replying to posts it seems.
 
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Sir LagsAlot said:
No the king's that's what I've been grumbling about I don't even know how the topic of the heir's armor came up it's both the wrong person and the wrong item.

Edit: Another person brought it up and I wasn't paying enough attention when replying to posts it seems.
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But the King's cloak is now part of a combo with Trollslayer and Zoom-zoom belt.
I don't think a replacement for that is going to fly.
 
IronFist said:
I looked into it actually. The king's armor is Adamant with Master Rune of Gromril on it... there's a LOT that can just Tank. If we're making a shield, it should not be something that doubles as a weapon, given the T3 armor (even if it has MR. Gromril too...).
Maybe if we can get a hold of the Rune that lets Valma's Gronti make Walls... we could adapt that and make the shield double up to create instant ice fortifications.
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Ok, another idea for the heir that mixes defense and offense. We compress Stormfront then put that parrying and spite on a shield, the goal would be a shield that helps them blocks attacks and lashes back with bolts of lightning and shards of ice.
 
Jreengus said:
Ok, another idea for the heir that mixes defense and offense. We compress Stormfront then put that parrying and spite on a shield, the goal would be a shield that helps them blocks attacks and lashes back with bolts of lightning and shards of ice.
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A compressed Stormfront wold be a master rune, but Spite is also a Master Rune, so it won't work.
 
IronFist said:
A compressed Stormfront wold be a master rune, but Spite is also a Master Rune, so it won't work.
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Huh, and a talismanic one at that so we couldn't put it on a shield anyway. I coulda sworn it was a regular rune. Lightspite is a regular rune but it doesn't really do what I want there, maybe just one of our generic armour runes could work relying on stormfront to retaliate anyway, shielding would probably be great here if we could invent it somehow.
 
Jreengus said:
Huh, and a talismanic one at that so we couldn't put it on a shield anyway. I coulda sworn it was a regular rune. Lightspite is a regular rune but it doesn't really do what I want there, maybe just one of our generic armour runes could work relying on stormfront to retaliate anyway, shielding would probably be great here if we could invent it somehow.
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Ehh, well, Light and Frost go decently well together: Ice Dragons use Hysh... which Snorri might be finding out once he gets the Hysh book.
 
Alratan said:
There might not be any Ice Dragons yet. The Winds may not have existed for long enough.
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The princes cloak is made from Elder Frost Wrym hide. There are definitely dragons attuned to the winds. Magma dragons = Aqshy, Frost wryms = Hysh. Unless you are referring to Emperor dragon level, which the Ice Dragon is the Frost version of. But iirc the Wrym that Otrek and KotS killed together was a threat to the whole throng, so... yea. Definitely emperor dragon level too...
 
Jreengus said:
Huh, and a talismanic one at that so we couldn't put it on a shield anyway. I coulda sworn it was a regular rune. Lightspite is a regular rune but it doesn't really do what I want there, maybe just one of our generic armour runes could work relying on stormfront to retaliate anyway, shielding would probably be great here if we could invent it somehow.
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Not related to the Royal Armor discussion, but one of the weird ideas I've had for the sake of Seeing What Happens is adapting Spite into a weapon rune. I'm not entirely sure what would happen with that, but stuff like amplifying damage based on how injured the user is seems on point for what Spite is about.
 
BungieONI said:
Not related to the Royal Armor discussion, but one of the weird ideas I've had for the sake of Seeing What Happens is adapting Spite into a weapon rune. I'm not entirely sure what would happen with that, but stuff like amplifying damage based on how injured the user is seems on point for what Spite is about.
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Full equipment loadout with MSpite, grudge, and anger. Doom Slayer Loadout :V
 
...Huh, that's a good point, what's a Grudge Rune do on armor? Do we know at all?

It feels like it should be "And this armor is specifically proof against Whatever You Do. Because Fuck You." But I'm not sure.
 
ArchAIngel said:
...Huh, that's a good point, what's a Grudge Rune do on armor? Do we know at all?

It feels like it should be "And this armor is specifically proof against Whatever You Do. Because Fuck You." But I'm not sure.
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I have no idea tbh. We do know there are runes which if you put it on a thing aren't that useful, as there should be, and I have a feeling that given the nature of what a Grudge is that its best suited to weapon and engineering uses. It might genuinely not do very much, or act more like a talisman and empower the wearer of the armor against the source of their grudge.
 
Maybe something like Amalric's aura against the undead, the less diffuse the more powerful?
 
Ok so I'd like to expand on my thoughts about the heir's shield into thoughts on a whole set. So the first decision for the heir's set is are we going for something similar to the king's set but ice themed? This would have the advantage of getting the heir used to the kind of equipment they'd use as king and let us double up on that sets strengths but I would argue against. Going for something different would let us fill gaps left by the king's capabilities and frankly I think it would be more fun to do something different. So the question becomes what do aim for set bonus wise and I would like to propose a storm themed set.

We already have the cloak which create a defensive blizzard around the wearer, slowing and freezing enemies so for the weapon slots I would propose a thunderbolt axe and a stormfront shield. The axe would have something like MThunderbolts + Striking + Accuracy, the shield would be something like MStormfront + 2 of (Parrying/Iron/Slowness/Shielding/Spelleating). The axe would add a more offensive element to the potential set bonus, the lightning striking out from the storm to kill. The shield would hopefully tie together the cloaks defensive icy winds with the axe's offensive lightning strikes being a combination of ice and lightning and being both defensive and and offensive, the set bonus would thus expand the storm from the cloak and shield combining them to cover a larger area whilst adding the axe's lightning in to strike down foes.

The only remaining piece would be the talisman which I'm not really sure on. Maybe something with MDismay could work turning the storm more sinister, dark and foreboding... I'm not sure exactly what the combo would be though.
 
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I have a question if someone will answer it.
Will sharing our discoveries on runic reagents be as problematic as trading runes as we have already done?
 
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