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Yeah, either he keeps succeeding and the armor scales are quickly filled with glorious deeds, or he dies on one of the hunts and the armor gets buried together with him and we get to make a new suit of armor for the next heir.

Alternatively, we might get the chance to play the forged limb combo gacha again.

I'd still like to make an arm with the Master Rune of Lightning Strikes paired with a weapon with the Master Rune of Flight.
 
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[X] Brana: Decline

Brana may not be birds, but I hate this 'birb' spam. Not that I expect declining to win but you are welcome if it does.
 
@soulcake, a few questions:

Is the fact that Orra is a Kraka Drakk expat at all mitigating of our stretching outside the hold borders with our forged lmbs? 'One of our own' kind of deal? Or is she considered wholly part of Ungor now?

Does Snorri think that an adamant smelter would significantly improve in function if made in adamant?

Is Snorri letting other runesmiths know of the reagent properties of odd materials at all? From a business standpoint, it would be valuable.
Not especially. Her marrying into Clan Stonehammer means she is now of Clan Stonehammer. The ties are there and acknowledged of course, but Dwarfs from other holds will see her as Orra of Clan Stonehammer. Her being from Kraka Drakk is only pertinent to Dwarfs from Kraka Drakk and Karak Ungor to a lesser extent, if only to remind them that both holds are tied together.
 
[X] Brana: Accept
[X] Ceremony: Subdued.

I want Brana with all the eight winds. Gotta catch'em all !
More interestingly, Amberclaw was also one of the few individuals delving into the more neglected aspects of Brana Amber magic.
I don't think you're going to have much luck there. If amber is the secondary magic, and there are only a few that use it... I can't imagine there will be many users of the other winds
 
I don't think you're going to have much luck there. If amber is the secondary magic, and there are only a few that use it... I can't imagine there will be many users of the other winds
I'd expect the number exploring other winds to increase as contact with the elves does and especially once they start coming into contact with elven mages rather than just merchants. It will be interesting to see if any Brana manage to learn Qhaysh.
 
I'd expect the number exploring other winds to increase as contact with the elves does and especially once they start coming into contact with elven mages rather than just merchants. It will be interesting to see if any Brana manage to learn Qhaysh.
I doubt its possible... Ghur and Azyr seem to be inherent to KotS. The other winds have no such connection
 
Are you thinking of the wrong wind?
Chamon is gold/metal.

Chamon is attracted to metal, yes, and the Greedy Trolls weren't gluttonous trolls, they were greedy, they wanted to steal metal objects such as dwarven crafts. Wanting material possessions is one of the parts of Chamon, IIRC.

Chamon is the Wind of Materialism. Gold is just the physical metaphor that mortal races associate with that mind set, like associating fire with the passion that Aqshy is an expression of.
 
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The issue is the heirs armour is described as:

It would be pretty awkward to walk up to the heir and tell them that the piece of history they are wearing and that is supposed to record their deeds and name for eternity is outdated and we made you a better one! I don't think we can realistically make a new armour set for either the king or the heir until the scales are all full and then it can be retired as a museum piece while we make a new one to record new deeds on.
Kind of seems pretty easy to retire the armour set when the prince makes the transition to king in a couple of centuries as it won't be the prince's deeds.
 
Kind of seems pretty easy to retire the armour set when the prince makes the transition to king in a couple of centuries as it won't be the prince's deeds.
Except Gloin's Armor won't retire, because Gimli will take it up until he is king himself.

And by that time it will be a Heirloom from before the Incursion...

Besides, it's not like Gloin's armor is bad: He was tunnel fighting in the underway during the great incursion and wasn't majorly wounded.

Edit 2: if we want to make it better, the answer is a) gromril chainmail b) a rune combo.
 
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Kind of seems pretty easy to retire the armour set when the prince makes the transition to king in a couple of centuries as it won't be the prince's deeds.
But it's explicitly designed to passed on to the next prince and then the next prince and so on gradually filling up the scales with their deeds, reminding the future princes of the actions of their forebears before they were king. Retiring it defeats the entire point of that design, the only real chink where we could justify replacing it is when it is no longer able to fulfill that purpose.

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Edit 2: if we want to make it better, the answer is a) gromril chainmail b) a rune combo.
The lack of a combo on both the king and the heir's armour is painful but I just don't see a way to replace either any time soon within the confines of dwarven culture and the inherent premise of both sets. I do like the idea of giving the heir a shield so we can get an armour combo as part of their set bonus though.
 
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But it's explicitly designed to passed on to the next prince and then the next prince and so on gradually filling up the scales with their deeds, reminding the future princes of the actions of their forebears before they were king. Retiring it defeats the entire point of that design, the only real chink where we could justify replacing it is when it is no longer able to fulfill that purpose.

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The lack of a combo on both the king and the heir's armour is painful but I just don't see a way to replace either any time soon within the confines of dwarven culture and the inherent premise of both sets. I do like the idea of giving the heir a shield so we can get an armour combo as part of their set bonus though.

The Prince has two items of ours. A T4 cloak and T3 armor. A weapon, a Shield and a talisman are all possibilities that could combo.

Master Rune of Currents probably synergizes pretty well with it, although ideally I'd want Everfrost... but we don't know that, unfortunately.
On a shield, we could put Master Rune of Blizzards, which should synergize with Hailmantle, given it's the same effect.
 
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