Wait we have physical proof that pantsaa has lied we could show to discredit him to the pangolins. The big stone tablet he sent to help prevent hazou execution that says hazou didn't said any letters to akatsuki. Unless pantsaa carefully worded it to avoid technical lies
I get that we want to bring down the pangolin regime and pantsa, but using an evidence that was made to save our life from certain execution leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
 
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We should learn more about oro to see if he is nice enough to share primordial sealing with. Or at least not evil enough that empowering him is worth it to deal with the great seal
See, you write this but what I read is "The QMs have been too subtle..." (This is a joke.)




Modify MS8 to latch onto the rift, push chakra into it to open it up infinitesimally, then send a sensor through it to get readings on status of the rift and on the other side. (in theory, this seal would open the rift if used from both sides)

Just to clarify, we don't need Naruto's tenketsu to do this part? That's to blow the entire rift open later.

Kagome is quick to tell you that all of this is made of wild guesses and speculation. His best guess is that you probably don't need huge amounts of chakra to open the rift that tiny little bit but he has no idea.

According to all evidence so far, the rift is an extremely malformed storage channel. It would be very tough, but it's theoretically possible to move the channel (though it would need to be done carefully to prevent the rift from degrading too much).

Does Kagome have any ideas about how to accomplish this?

No, but he could adjust plans for step 1 of the plan to collect readings that might give more info.

What about adapting an MS into a sealing array that encapsulates the end of the storage channel in a chakra construct, and then moving the array on this side of the rift? Does he think that has potential?

While those words in that order make literal sense, he has very low confidence it would be so simple.

What does Kagome think about using an adapted MS, that encapsulates the user in an invisible+intangible chakra construct. The construct has enough environmental chakra that it gets ablativly drained

He thinks that he doesn't begin to know enough about these insane seals to be able to modify them that much.

Does Kagome need or desire additional diagnostic seals to work on the Rift?

As of right now he does not know what would be needed for later steps of the plan. He has all the information he needs for step 1.
 
See, you write this but what I read is "The QMs have been too subtle..." (This is a joke.)
Is the joke confirmation that oro is too evil for sharing primordial sealing to deal with the great seal to be worth it with the irony being funny? Or is it that at first glance it looks like that with the appearance of irony being funny? Or something else?
 
Is the joke confirmation that oro is too evil for sharing primordial sealing to deal with the great seal to be worth it with the irony being funny? Or is it that at first glance it looks like that with the appearance of irony being funny? Or something else?
I'm pretty sure the QMs are unable to judge what the voters consider "too evil". They have literally presented the worst known and currently ongoing atrocities of him on screen. The unknown atrocities are unknown because he apparently hides them, meaning HDK about them.

If vivisecting veterans and using them as living substrates for his own curiosity and projects he doesn't even share with wider Leaf, all the while having an attitude of "anesthetics are bothersome" isn't evil enough, then what exactly do you mean by "evil"?

Is there maybe a better question? Like, what are you worried about that a "too evil" Orochimaru would do with 3D sealing that an Orochimaru that is "merely" as evil as his worst known atrocities suggest would not?
 
There are some ES experiments I'm interested in. If you include them in your plan, I'll probably vote for it.

  • Collaborating with the master smith we have to smelt and refine filtered and +/- densified iron oxide.
  • Collaborating with our master smith to design a masterwork spear for Yuuma with our various wonder materials (densified diamond, lightened carbon fiber, slowly 3D printing densified steel, etc).
  • Making a set of calligraphy brushes out of diamond thread, plus and minus density to change stiffness.
  • Making a molecularly smooth and level calligraphy surface.
  • Collaborating with the Aburame to make microscope lenses.
 
Is there maybe a better question? Like, what are you worried about that a "too evil" Orochimaru would do with 3D sealing that an Orochimaru that is "merely" as evil as his worst known atrocities suggest would not?
It seemed like EJ was providing OOC information so I was asking for clarification on what he was saying. If I add more details to the question not in the original exchange I'll doubt he'll answer it, given this is OOC info. But to answer your question. An Oro that does not do actions that oppose Uplift, and once Uplift steady state is achieved only dissects consensual subjects. Sounds worth empowering in order to deal with great seal

all the while having an attitude of "anesthetics are bothersome"
Where is this shown?
 
If I understand correctly, Kagome' tentative necromancy plan Involves using a bunch of chakra to strengthen a fragile chakra construct and use that to force the rift slightly open for a fraction of a second.

Silly Kagome, explosives solve everything!
We just need to invent a way to set of an explosion inside the rift scar!

We know that explosive seals take negligible chakra. We know that some seals can be made to have their effect activate a short distance away from the paper their written on.

Proposed seal would feed a thread of chakra into the rift scar, then(after a short delay) trigger and explosion at the end of that thread.

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Please sanity check me before I ping the QMs to get a kagome-opinion, does this make sense?
 
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Oh, sorry I thought that was required to make gemstones.
Big difference between making atomically smooth surfaces and separating out stuff based on molecular properties.

Distillation separates stuff based on molecular properties, has been known since ancient times and you can do it in your backyard.

Whereas making good atomically smooth surfaces takes dozens of people working full time in a dedicated lab.
 
If I understand correctly, Kagome' tentative necromancy plan Involves using a bunch of chakra to strengthen a fragile chakra construct and use that to force the rift slightly open for a fraction of a second.

Silly Kagome, explosives solve everything!
We just need to invent a way to set of an explosion inside the rift scar!

We know that explosive seals take negligible chakra. We know that some seals can be made to have their effect activate a short distance away from the paper their written on.

Proposed seal would feed a thread of chakra into the rift scar, then(after a short delay) trigger and explosion at the end of that thread.

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Please sanity check me before I ping the QMs to get a kagome-opinion, does this make sense?
Kagome would love it, I really don't lmao. Let's just make a super beefed up unlocking seal with Primordial sealing. 3d seals work with so much more chakra than normal seals that the seal itself may be able to gently open and close the rift with a chakra construct rather than jump starting it with explosions

I cant wait until we have the stunt so we can check our intuitions on this stuff!
 
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Idle thought: Kagome wants to take a huge amount of chakra, and run it through the Rift to open it, right?

What if we used a smaller amount of chakra, but increased the speed? Like a pressure washer?
 
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