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Can we take this as tacit confirmation that Mari is not FOOMing or does she just have enough chakra to train with the current number of clones she can make?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
Eisenhelm
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The oldest game.
Simultaneous feelings of relief and dread chased each other inside Hazou's gut as he unsealed his stack of paperwork for the day, fortunately for his sanity this particular pile was comprised only of routine formats requiring signatures in his capacity as clan lord of the Gouketsu as all the important reports and orders were already taken care of with Gaku and everything that could be delegated to a lesser official has already been taken care of by his literal army of subordinates; and yet the damn pile looked larger than life, you could easily drown panda under that much paper.
Still, the iron nerved allowed his body to essentially become a printer and let his mind free to focus on more important things, namely, the latest iteration of his children's game.
"I become a hawk and gouge your mind controlling eyes" said Shinji
"then I become a spider and capture you in my webs" said Inokaru
The game itself was something they came up whit together and both were of the opinion their chosen title was the only sensible way to name it.
So while Inokaru refer to it as "shape shifter's duel" Shinji insisted it was "the game in which you become different things and hunt each other down", in Hazou honest opinion it should have been "Henge showdown" but that was not something he could share, so upon being inadvertently left to decide which clan heir to favour in this particular disagreement, he did the wise thing and resigned himself to perpetually walk on eggshells every time they played and word his sentences In a way that let the name be unsaid.
"mmh, I become a scissor monster and cut down the web" said Shinji, daring his sister to come up whit something that could defeat a monster that made the senior-most sealmaster in leaf run away from it.
That was unusual; although the two could not agree to a name if their lives depended on it the rules of the game were sacrosanct. They had spent weeks playtesting and polishing them until they were satisfied. The end result was a masterfully crafted exercise in lawyering and mind games that would look to any outsider like nothing more than a contradictory mess (conversely Ami was quite fond of it)
Superficially the only condition for losing was not being able to retort to their opponent's henge immediately, but as Hazou deduced after days of observation, almost any answers could have you lose immediately; the range of possible things to turn into was consensually decided at the start of each round so the variety allowed for each encounter to be different enough not to grow stale over time, and going out of those bounds was forbidden. both had to choose a creature/person/entity that could conceivably defeat their opponent's without going overkill and yet still have such obvious advantage not to generate any reasonable argument (as that was a condition for losing as well).
As far as Hazou knew, sealing failures were defacto banned because no one was sure what could certainly defeat any particular one (or if they even existed in the first place as opposed to being their father's latest attempt to mess whit them) so this round must have special rules.
"Big deal, I become grandpa Jiraiya and rasengan you," said Inokaru and grinned smugly.
Hazou suppressed the spike of sadness that shot through his heart, not the time to dwell on the complicated mess of feelingsthe fact that both his children believed themselves to be descendants from the fifth Hokage instead of the clanless mist ninja whose legacy began and ended whit a passed down name that sentence was.
"I become lord Naruto and rasengan you a million times"
AAHHH, more complicated feelings, suppress, suppress.
"then I become a Dragon and maul you"
"I become papa and seal you" said Shinji
Well, this feeling he quite liked, It was true that he had a part in both defeating and sealing the dragons, but in reality, it would have been impossible without dozen of clan bosses who put aside their millennia-old differences to defeat an enemy they knew nothing about using a strategy they barely understood, devised by a war criminal most of them didn't trust.
Actually, now that he tough about it, it was a miracle the world was still there.
regardless, the fact that his oldest son looked up to him so much as to believe he could seal a dragon on his lonesome was something he would treasure forever, and if Inokaru's lack of protest was any indication it was an ideal they both thought as being self-evident.
Now if Hazou understood this round rules correctly everything "Alive" was permitted, so her choice of henge was between Orochimaru and a Kage, and both of those were almost as bad as sealing failures in their unpredictability when deciding matches, so Shinji may lose now depending on whether they considered Biju to be alive or not, and then it was up to the ten tails and the sage. Hazou drank some tea while waiting for her response.
"Then I become mom and defeat you"
Hazou choke on his tea
he could easily read his daughters' body language and all sings pointed out to her response being premeditated, she had chosen the dragons to lure her brother into choosing him and then win.
he didn't know whether to feel proud of her strategy or wounded in her estimation that he wouldn't stand a chance against his wife…. ah, she may have actually overlooked a critical detail
"Wait, yours or mine?"
Inokaru opened her mouth but hesitated for the answer, at his point the game was basically over, but Shinji was still awaiting her response.
"both" she regained her bearings
"You can't be both, that's not how it works" Shinji complained.
"but if I choose one, you are going for the other and then we both lose" Inokaru explained and Hazou was dreading what Shinji would say next.
"no, momma Akane is stronger"
there it was
"She is not"
"But she is, she can punch mountains" Shinji explained like Inokaru had never seen Akane before.
"Yes, but she does not like Jutsu"
that was inaccurate, Akane has seven elemental natures and dozens of jutsu for each, she just didn't have many occasions to use them, as not much can stand after getting punched by a goddess.
"But she is still stronger, Momma Ino never fights"
Also inaccurate, but most people who had ever seen her fight would either be sworn to secrecy or buried.
"Yes, she does, she can make you punch yourself. isn't that right papa?"
They both turned to look where Hazou used to be. He loves his family dearly and would defend them for everything, but when the time comes to be a judge upon their little squabbles, he was better off being away from that particular explosion.
Simultaneous feelings of relief and dread chased each other inside Hazou's gut as he unsealed his stack of paperwork for the day, fortunately for his sanity this particular pile was comprised only of routine formats requiring signatures in his capacity as clan lord of the Gouketsu as all the important reports and orders were already taken care of with Gaku and everything that could be delegated to a lesser official has already been taken care of by his literal army of subordinates; and yet the damn pile looked larger than life, you could easily drown panda under that much paper.
Still, the iron nerved allowed his body to essentially become a printer and let his mind free to focus on more important things, namely, the latest iteration of his children's game.
"I become a hawk and gouge your mind controlling eyes" said Shinji
"then I become a spider and capture you in my webs" said Inokaru
The game itself was something they came up whit together and both were of the opinion their chosen title was the only sensible way to name it.
So while Inokaru refer to it as "shape shifter's duel" Shinji insisted it was "the game in which you become different things and hunt each other down", in Hazou honest opinion it should have been "Henge showdown" but that was not something he could share, so upon being inadvertently left to decide which clan heir to favour in this particular disagreement, he did the wise thing and resigned himself to perpetually walk on eggshells every time they played and word his sentences In a way that let the name be unsaid.
"mmh, I become a scissor monster and cut down the web" said Shinji, daring his sister to come up whit something that could defeat a monster that made the senior-most sealmaster in leaf run away from it.
That was unusual; although the two could not agree to a name if their lives depended on it the rules of the game were sacrosanct. They had spent weeks playtesting and polishing them until they were satisfied. The end result was a masterfully crafted exercise in lawyering and mind games that would look to any outsider like nothing more than a contradictory mess (conversely Ami was quite fond of it)
Superficially the only condition for losing was not being able to retort to their opponent's henge immediately, but as Hazou deduced after days of observation, almost any answers could have you lose immediately; the range of possible things to turn into was consensually decided at the start of each round so the variety allowed for each encounter to be different enough not to grow stale over time, and going out of those bounds was forbidden. both had to choose a creature/person/entity that could conceivably defeat their opponent's without going overkill and yet still have such obvious advantage not to generate any reasonable argument (as that was a condition for losing as well).
As far as Hazou knew, sealing failures were defacto banned because no one was sure what could certainly defeat any particular one (or if they even existed in the first place as opposed to being their father's latest attempt to mess whit them) so this round must have special rules.
"Big deal, I become grandpa Jiraiya and rasengan you," said Inokaru and grinned smugly.
Hazou suppressed the spike of sadness that shot through his heart, not the time to dwell on the complicated mess of feelings
"I become lord Naruto and rasengan you a million times"
"then I become a Dragon and maul you"
"I become papa and seal you" said Shinji
Well, this feeling he quite liked, It was true that he had a part in both defeating and sealing the dragons, but in reality, it would have been impossible without dozen of clan bosses who put aside their millennia-old differences to defeat an enemy they knew nothing about using a strategy they barely understood, devised by a war criminal most of them didn't trust.
Actually, now that he tough about it, it was a miracle the world was still there.
regardless, the fact that his oldest son looked up to him so much as to believe he could seal a dragon on his lonesome was something he would treasure forever, and if Inokaru's lack of protest was any indication it was an ideal they both thought as being self-evident.
Now if Hazou understood this round rules correctly everything "Alive" was permitted, so her choice of henge was between Orochimaru and a Kage, and both of those were almost as bad as sealing failures in their unpredictability when deciding matches, so Shinji may lose now depending on whether they considered Biju to be alive or not, and then it was up to the ten tails and the sage. Hazou drank some tea while waiting for her response.
"Then I become mom and defeat you"
Hazou choke on his tea
he could easily read his daughters' body language and all sings pointed out to her response being premeditated, she had chosen the dragons to lure her brother into choosing him and then win.
he didn't know whether to feel proud of her strategy or wounded in her estimation that he wouldn't stand a chance against his wife…. ah, she may have actually overlooked a critical detail
"Wait, yours or mine?"
Inokaru opened her mouth but hesitated for the answer, at his point the game was basically over, but Shinji was still awaiting her response.
"both" she regained her bearings
"You can't be both, that's not how it works" Shinji complained.
"but if I choose one, you are going for the other and then we both lose" Inokaru explained and Hazou was dreading what Shinji would say next.
"no, momma Akane is stronger"
there it was
"She is not"
"But she is, she can punch mountains" Shinji explained like Inokaru had never seen Akane before.
"Yes, but she does not like Jutsu"
that was inaccurate, Akane has seven elemental natures and dozens of jutsu for each, she just didn't have many occasions to use them, as not much can stand after getting punched by a goddess.
"But she is still stronger, Momma Ino never fights"
Also inaccurate, but most people who had ever seen her fight would either be sworn to secrecy or buried.
"Yes, she does, she can make you punch yourself. isn't that right papa?"
They both turned to look where Hazou used to be. He loves his family dearly and would defend them for everything, but when the time comes to be a judge upon their little squabbles, he was better off being away from that particular explosion.
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Hmmm......For now, we are almost exclusively doing resolve training which does not require much space or equipment, so we can pretty much train anywhere. Training in the Seventh Path if possible and the the Forest of Death if not is risky, but it's our best option for the moment. Still, we really need to get a secure place to train secretly. That's going to be harder than we initially thought, but I think that we can still make an underground training base if we are smart and careful about it.
The key is to disguise the usage and construction of the training facility by building an additonal underground facility that, if discovered, won't be a big deal or be reason to further investigate. Lets say someone (perhaps the Hyūga, the Hagoromo, the KEI, or the Tower) invesitgates our suspicious activites and, instead of finding a flag-raising training facility, finds out that we built a small underground facility that we regularly use for highOPSEC meetings and maybe storing important papers. There would be no reason to search further. Every clan has secret highOPSEC meeting rooms with overkill security, so it makes perfect sense that the Gōketsu would build one as well and would go to extreme lengths to hide it. On our end, we would suffer a loss of secrecy on the room itself, but none of our important secrets would be discovered unless they find a way to actually breach the defences of the room, which would be just as hard as it is on the surface.
As a bonus, actually having such a facility would be a great boon to the Gōketsu. As it is now, the clan has to spend about five hours traveling round trip whenever we need to have a high-OPSEC meeting. This is fine occasionally but isn't something we can do all the time. Having an easily accessible high-OPSEC area means that we can have our regular clan meetings secured without massively disrupting our schedules. Building this underground base will have a massive security boost to everything that requires OPSEC, including other clan secrets such as Project Necromancy and Sage Mode. FOOM isn't our only secret that would cause a catastrophy if leaked.
Ok then, on to the actual specifics.
FOOM OPSEC: Need to Know Basis
- Disguising Construction
- Obtain required materials by slightly modifying purchases for existing Gōketsu projects/buisnesses. Quietly stockpile excess and fudge paperwork to not leave a trail.
- Keep all material hidden in storage scrolls during stockpiling and transportation
- Have Akane handle construction using shadow clones
- temporarily divert FOOM training towards learning required skills, if nessesary
- hire Pangolin to teach basics of underground construction
- (raise her deceit from 8 to 20 ASAP)
Under the pretense of avoiding a collapse while clearing chakra predators from our iron mine, hire experts to teach us about the causes of and preventative measures for mining cave-ins. If needed, hire specialized experts to teach us additional information under the pretense of building countermeasures to protect the compound from a Collapse-event.- Have Mari divert attention to legitimate projects
- HighOPSEC Facility (our secret basement)
- Learn maximum Byakugan range from Shikamaru.
- Create hidden entrance (and emergency exit) in secure/restricted areas of Gōketsu compound where clan members can be seen entering without suspicion
- Tunnel deep underground, beyond maximum Byakugan range
- Set up highest-OPSEC secret facility per Kagome's and Kei's specifications (use purifiers for air, dig using tunneling jutsu, etc.), have Kagome design and implement information security (have AB seals permanently active)
- Keep facility small: a meeting room and small filing/storage area
- Training Facility (the secret basement of our secret basement)
- Access from a hidden entrance/tunnel in highOPSEC facility
- Design to FOOMer's specifications
- Hazō implements and maintains Kagome security measures on lower section of base (but have Kagome make the seals)
- Keep small and expand as needed
- Standard Operating Procedure
- Even in private, speak and act as if neither facility exists.
- If you do not need to know specific information, you do not know that information.
- Being informed about either facility requires verification of sufficient OPSEC ability from Mari
- Mari, disguise base usage as something else. Have fun ;P
- Training Facility
- Continue non-SC training on surface.
- Any heavy SC training or regular refilling must occur here
- Create mass SCs only inside facility, barring emergency
- Give no reason to suspect mass SC training
- HighOPSEC Facility
- Clan meetings should occur in this facility whenever possible.
- All discussion of Project Necromancy, FOOM, and Sage Mode may only occur in this facility.
- Any materials related to said projects must be stored in this facility.
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on that thought, the compound used to be Danzo's state, it's weird that he doesn't have anything like that already.
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I think we're complicating all of our FOOM opsec planning. I think we should leave Leaf for a while. Go on an extended mission after the war is done and set up a remote training facility. If we are outside of Leaf the risk of discovery drops dramatically. We don't have any super pressing projects that need our day to day involvement so can just periodically check back in. Plus since we are summoners can stay in contact with Asuma
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Tunneling Justsu "excavates a 2-meter diameter tunnel and is able to move through it unimpeded" at a rate of "(Effect) zones per round." That's honestly terrifying when you think about what it can do outside of combat. Rock definitely has this jutus and probably has stuff even better; no wonder they were able to pull of the Collapse.
How on earth are we defending against another one of those? The only thing I can think of is having our own tunnels in strategic locations and regularly patrolling them with Hyūga to search for enemy tunnels.
How on earth are we defending against another one of those? The only thing I can think of is having our own tunnels in strategic locations and regularly patrolling them with Hyūga to search for enemy tunnels.
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I agree with you that such a strategy would probably be the optimal path. I still don't think we should do that because, well, I think EagleJarl explained it best.
The Quest won't be nearly as fun for either the QMs or the players if we retreat to a secure and secret base where we won't be bothered. Sure, it'll probably work, but we'll skip right to the endgame of the quest. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm having a lot of fun with this quest and I'm not that eager to see it end. There's probably a lot to do even after we become S-Rankers, but playing will be a different experience once we reach that point.
You're absolutely right that it's the smart thing to do. There are still things that we can't ignore without major consequences (like the Great Seal, Hidan, the Gōketsu compound and clan, Ino, that plant slowly tunneling through its confinement at the rift site, etc.), but I bet we could figure out ways to deal with those if we really tried. I just don't want to go down that route because I don't think it'll be as fun of an experience for us.
Sure, the alternative way to keep OPSEC on FOOM is a little complicated, but I don't mind it. I admit that I'm a little biased on that front (I find OPSEC and real world information classification to be utterly facinating) but this will all be mostly background so I don't think it will matter much. Assuming the OPSEC works, that is, if something goes wrong then it will very quickly go from 'background lore' to 'major plotpoint urgently demanding thread attention.' Not that there's much we'd be able to do if FOOM actually becomes public or falls into the wrong hands....
Yeah, the thought of a clan of überHyūga or FOOM!boosted Orochimaru is still just as terrifying as when I first read it. Thanks, Noburi.
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I think I responded to this already and this was simply left over on my quote board but just in case...
I enjoyed writing the science efforts and am happy to write more. @Velorien might feel differently.
Fun! I would be happy to threadmark this into Apocrypha if you can clean it up a bit. It needs an editing pass for spag and capitalization. (Spelling, Punctuation, And Grammar)
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I'm not advocating light housing at all. I'm just saying that we build a base of operation outside of Leaf. Like the only thing that requires our direct involvement in Leaf is Ino. The clan can be ran by Mari and Haru while we go out and do ninja stuff. We can check in every month or sor and go on a date with Ino. This actually has us do more exciting stuff instead of being bound to Leaf
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Would you really trust your most classified projects to a compound that wasn't secure enough to keep out chakra beasts?
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It was secure enough, he just 'accidentally left the gate open' when he went to bed.
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Is 'lighthousing' only the correct usage for full isolation? If so, apologies. Either way, the point I was making still holds. I don't want to abandon everything we are doing in Leaf and I don't think it will be as fun if we do so to focus on training from a secure location.
I suspect we don't see eye to eye on that, so let me try a different approach. One, if we don't get Asuma's permission for this we'll be missing nin again and actively hunted down. I can see us convincing him to let us do it for a short while, but there's no way he'll let us leave the village on the timeframe needed for FOOM to progress that far. Two, what about Kei? Does she stop FOOMing and stay in Leaf? She is very much needed in the village and we probably couldn't convince her to leave KEI, Tenten, and the Nara even if we tried. If she stays, then FOOM is still at risk of leaking and we need FOOM OPSEC anyways, not to mention you're going to be leaving her in a village with Mari without us there for years at a time. Three, what do we about the Great Seal or the Fourth Shinobi World War or any of the other things Asuma wants us to work on? Noburi is a strategic asset now and Asuma won't accept him staying away from the village for long amounts of time without good reason. Five, this will kill the Gōketsu reputation and cement our status as foreigners who don't care about the village. Six, is it even in charecter for Hazō or Noburi or Yuno to go? Seven, how on earth will we bring the entire koi pond with us/where do we get our chakra from without the pond or Leaf genin? I can keep going, but I think I've made my point.
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How significantly is the presence of non-clan ninja in the compound affecting the difficulty of maintaining the secrecy of the construction? Also, can you clarify what you meant by "non-clan ninja?" I think you mean the estate genin but I suppose you could be reffering to the fact that our compound is open for any ninja from other clans to just stroll into whenever they want.
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Remember that span of several updates where people came barging into the Compound, demanding an on-the-spot meeting? I still kind of want Hazou to punch Yasuji for that (but also because EJ did such a good job of making the bastard an arrogant weasel).
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I actually think we are much more on the same page than not. What I am not arguing is that we go out into the woods and just train and do some light missions until we are S-rank. What I am suggesting is that while we are in an awkward time between having proper Opsec in place that we move some of our time to out of village where we can FOOM at the full rate. This lets us continue to make some gains while slowly implementing the OPSEC procedures that you want to implement. Also while we are in village would suggest move to spending one training block on the 7th path to still get some gains. With this strat we are still able to do most of the stuff we want in Leaf while taking the time to safely hide our climb. As for Noburi being a strategic asset and needing the chakra farm 7th path solves that. He can stay in Leaf when we are out of village. Also would not be pulling the trigger on this till after world war 4 is over. Plus the great seal stuff is all things that we can do from anywhere since it is based on the 7th path
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@eaglejarl @VelorienHmmm......For now, we are almost exclusively doing resolve training which does not require much space or equipment, so we can pretty much train anywhere. Training in the Seventh Path if possible and the the Forest of Death if not is risky, but it's our best option for the moment. Still, we really need to get a secure place to train secretly. That's going to be harder than we initially thought, but I think that we can still make an underground training base if we are smart and careful about it.
The key is to disguise the usage and construction of the training facility by building an additonal underground facility that, if discovered, won't be a big deal or be reason to further investigate. Lets say someone (perhaps the Hyūga, the Hagoromo, the KEI, or the Tower) invesitgates our suspicious activites and, instead of finding a flag-raising training facility, finds out that we built a small underground facility that we regularly use for highOPSEC meetings and maybe storing important papers. There would be no reason to search further. Every clan has secret highOPSEC meeting rooms with overkill security, so it makes perfect sense that the Gōketsu would build one as well and would go to extreme lengths to hide it. On our end, we would suffer a loss of secrecy on the room itself, but none of our important secrets would be discovered unless they find a way to actually breach the defences of the room, which would be just as hard as it is on the surface.
As a bonus, actually having such a facility would be a great boon to the Gōketsu. As it is now, the clan has to spend about five hours traveling round trip whenever we need to have a high-OPSEC meeting. This is fine occasionally but isn't something we can do all the time. Having an easily accessible high-OPSEC area means that we can have our regular clan meetings secured without massively disrupting our schedules. Building this underground base will have a massive security boost to everything that requires OPSEC, including other clan secrets such as Project Necromancy and Sage Mode. FOOM isn't our only secret that would cause a catastrophy if leaked.
Ok then, on to the actual specifics.
FOOM OPSEC: Need to Know Basis
- Disguising Construction
- Obtain required materials by slightly modifying purchases for existing Gōketsu projects/buisnesses. Quietly stockpile excess and fudge paperwork to not leave a trail.
- Keep all material hidden in storage scrolls during stockpiling and transportation
- Have Akane handle construction using shadow clones
- temporarily divert FOOM training towards learning required skills, if nessesary
- (raise her deceit from 8 to 20 ASAP)
- Under pretense of restoring our iron mine, hire experts to instruct us on how miners avoid cave-ins. We need to know the basics so we can make sure the mine won't collapse on us while we clear it out, after all. If needed, hire specialized experts to teach us additional information under the pretense of building countermeasures to protect the compound from a Collapse-event.
- Have Mari divert attention to legitimate projects
- HighOPSEC Facility (our secret basement)
- Learn maximum Byakugan range from Shikamaru.
- Create hidden entrance (and emergency exit) in secure/restricted areas of Gōketsu compound where clan members can be seen entering without suspicion
- Tunnel deep underground, beyond maximum Byakugan range
- Set up highest-OPSEC secret facility per Kagome's and Kei's specifications (use purifiers for air, dig using tunneling jutsu, etc.), have Kagome design and implement information security (have AB seals permanently active)
- Keep facility small: a meeting room and small filing/storage area
- Training Facility (the secret basement of our secret basement)
- Access from a hidden entrance/tunnel in highOPSEC facility
- Design to FOOMer's specifications
- Hazō implements and maintains Kagome security measures on lower section of base (but have Kagome make the seals)
- Keep small and expand as needed
Check/Optimize with Mari and FOOM Clan Members before implementation.
- Standard Operating Procedure
- Even in private, speak and act as if neither facility exists.
- If you do not need to know specific information, you do not know that information.
- Being informed about either facility requires verification of sufficient OPSEC ability from Mari
- Mari, disguise base usage as something else. Have fun ;P
- Training Facility
- Continue non-SC training on surface.
- Any heavy SC training or regular refilling must occur here
- Create mass SCs only inside facility, barring emergency
- Give no reason to suspect mass SC training
- HighOPSEC Facility
- Clan meetings should occur in this facility whenever possible.
- All discussion of Project Necromancy, FOOM, and Sage Mode may only occur in this facility.
- Any materials related to said projects must be stored in this facility.
Since there is an arbitrarily high number of skills at level 0 and our charecters can invest in a Cooking skill, can Akane invest FOOM XP into a hypothetical Craftmanship (Construction) skill so we can have a team of Akane shadow clones build the underground meeting room and training facility? It's not realistic to let her turn into master carpenter or anything, but I can see no realism issue with letting her pick up enough skill to build a basic room and install some premade furniture.
Also, is there any other concern from your QM-discussion that you feel I did not adequately address? I feel like everything you mentioned could be worked around one way or another, but you mentioned the task being physically impossible so checking seems prudent.
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I'm reacting to all the Snowflake chapters, and while this is meta information, we can in fact assume Mari weighed losing Snowflake too when she bribed Oro, even though Kei and Snowflake said they doubted it even crossed her mind... She considers her both a newborn and 'one of her own'
you may cry now
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Holy balls Hazou solved the quest a hundred chapters ago
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Probably Leaf 5SB-ed the foundations of the major (remaining) buildings.
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In that case, sure, I largely agree with you. We should definitely do training on the Seventh Path whenever it is feasable and should in general keep any flashy training away from Leaf. I did not get that impression in the slightest from your other comments, however.
So, to clarify, what specifically are you suggesting we do? Are you advocating for staying far away from Leaf and checking back once every month or so or are you advocating that we simply spend our normal training time away from Leaf?
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We would want her to learn geotechnical engineering, or whatever pass as geotechnical engineering.
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Yeah, there's definitely some technical expertise required to build things underground. I accounted for that in the main plan, though I tried to keep it to the very basics as to avoid suspicion. Do you think more depth (heh) is warranted? I'm not actually sure how much geotechnical engineering knowledge even exists in Leaf, given that it's based on 12th century japanese technology.
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Honestly was just some semi vague speculation so wasn't fully thought out. Still off the cuff initial feeling would be split time out of Leaf and in Leaf into 2/3 out 1/3 in. This could be like two weeks out doing training and some missions and then come back in for a check int. Or could extend it to like two months outside and come back for a month. Not particularly sold on any specific implementation as of right now
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Ah, got it. Since you agree that we shouldn't pull the trigger on this until after the fourth war is over, we should probably just asses the situation when it looks like things are winding down. Things could very well change between now and then that may affect what we want to do. We don't have a lot of information on what things will look like in post-war Leaf or what kind of missions Asuma expects us to go on.
- Location
- USA
Glad to hear! Well, we voted in a chakra science scene for Vel this week, so I suppose we'll see.