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- Europe
Cool. Ask Asuma. We have literally done worse than ask a crazy question.
@faflec , No, Ren is long enough a Jonin:
That's Ami.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
Cool. Ask Asuma. We have literally done worse than ask a crazy question.
@faflec , No, Ren is long enough a Jonin:
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- USA
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- He/Him
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- The Deep Blue Sea
It had not occurred to me before this that Tunnel Excavation would quite happily powder earth that's not, like, *in the earth*. I think we've seen it used to carve through stone walls (or maybe that was Hiding Like A Mole?) but I didn't make the connection that it would also be effective for e.g. clearing landslides
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
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- He/Him
There is no reason for Mari to physically visit Mist - if she can't reach out using our codewords etc. remotely then...the Mist don't want to talk to her or she isn't spymaster material.
If the Mist yaks hated our guts for having deserted the village, I would have expected to see literally any hint of it in our interactions with them. Instead, they offered us great deals, good advice, and the business partner equivalent of friendship. For them to treat Mari in a substantially different way would shock me, unless the reason is that they would treat us the same way because a) Jiriya is dead so we're no longer valuable or b) we ignored them for so long that they have now taken offense.
The Mist yakuza appeared to have little love for the Mist leadership - wouldn't their patriotism, if it existed, have demanded they not offer us intel on the exams, resulting in our completely humiliating every Mist genin and the village by extension?
I'm also not so certain that the Mist yakuza, as it currently stands, exists only at the mercy of the Mist. They have a lot of money. You can hire ninja. Mist is weak. Mist leadership, at this moment, is both pro-Leaf and pro-Goketsu. What possible reason would they have for snubbing us, or Mari specifically?
It seems like you're suggesting a differential in behaviour would be because they perceived us as significantly different from Mari, insofar as we defected etc. That would require that they held that our ignorance of what we were being asked to do indemnified us in any way, and that doesn't sound very likely.
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Reminder that we have absolutely stupid amounts of money and if we want the land developed into something useful we can just pay someone else to do it offscreen. No need to waste our time on it until it's ready to be used. We don't really need it to be profitable because profit isn't really a primary goal anymore. It just needs to serve a purpose we want.
I would like to suggest that we ask to keep the Holy symbol given to us by Hidan, on the grounds that if he finds us with it (when he inevitably visits us a second time) we have a slightly higher chance of survival. In fact, it is probably worth creating some basic protocols with regards to being kidnapped by Hidan specifically, and getting them cleared by Asuma.
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- The state of Paranoia
We definitely need to have a conversation with Asuma about the next time Hidan visits. At least some small offscreened thing so that the QMs can look back next time and see that Hazō should be as prepared as he reasonably can be, treason-avoidance-wise.
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
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The current plan (which will most likely be executed; 13 votes) has a section which addresses this fairly explicitly.
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- Europe
The Mist yakuza was just simply willing to work with us because it was a good opportunity for them, the Boss once specifically asked us about the financial records that we stole from another group, he either knew it was us or just assumed it was Leaf who held the records.
And they are mostly at the mercy of Mist because the current leadership of the yakuza can easily be replaced by more obedient people. Giving us information is just simple a risk for them.
So if someone starts to go back and forth to carry messages for us they are likely not going to be able to carry something really important, strong ninja as messagers would draw attention and anything else could easily be caught or interrupted.
But the current vote is more precise now, so I don't think it's a problem anymore(I fail to see why Asuma would have a problem for being asked but, sure):
Before this, it was about 'taking over' after all.
edit: Jiraiya's spy network never seemed to go into Mist/Water, considering that he had no idea that Ren was Mizukage or that Ryu was still alive. And he traveled the world for years building relationships with all kinds of people, Mari is just mostly sitting around with us and dealing with the Mercant council.
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- Liverpool
Worth noting that Ami is ALSO a social spec Jonin, from the logistics clan. That doesn't mean she's not combat capable, (her ranged weapon focus reminds me of early Keiko, though it probably is in-universe that Ami came first), but Jonin aura aside, there's probably chunin that can take Ami in a fight, if she never opens her mouth.
This also makes Ami's complete dismissing if Hazou as a threat during the soup incident even more foolish and arrogant (can you tell that still bugs me a little?)
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We have some "idea" about her stats from the Snowball fight:
Insanity is Ami (who is her own team and we don't know how reduced her numbers actually are) while Team Shadow is Hazou, Shiori and Shikamaru.
The only reason why we can even harm Ami is because we have Shadow clones who could go full explosion on her.
(We also need to ally with Tenten and make her stronger)
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[X] Sealing Research: Hot Tub Bubble Bath
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
Also remember that the main thing we bought it for was to make a secret bunker we could hide out in if things went south in Leaf. We're no longer under the shadow of Hiashikage, but imo there's still merit in having a hard to trace secret bunker if we or anyone else needs to not be found for a while.
Following this line of thought suggests that we should be covert with how we get it renovated, and that instead of the (collapsed) iron mine on the property we would be more interested in something more like 'Tunnel Excavation underground, MEW to firm up the walls and ceiling, and a hidden chamber with basic amenities'.
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I also remember the discussion of turning it into a mining town to test out Hazou's economic theories about over-taxing civvies and such, but in fairness we could probably just buy a town like Babukiocha (is that right?) and test it there immediately, instead of having to set up our own infrastructure after clearing land and such.
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Join the Quests and Stuff Discord Server! should work i think? if not then i think some people here have it in their signatures.
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Eisenhelm
gran dutch of douchery
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- Colombia
Yeah, that was my mockup of a plan.
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- Liverpool
Her stats being reduced is important for sure, and means that it's "somewhere better than that". But I disagree on your conclusions based on that data for 2 reasons:
1) we were on a team with Shiori and Shikamaru. While we don't know Shiori's bit, I don't exactly get a combat spec vibe from her. And Shikamaru is not a physical specialist by any stretch (though I'd bet his awareness is insanely high, which helps compensate). So the average of those is not particularly indicative, since we know Hazou has better than poor Athletics. Ami's are at least hers, watered down to some degree.
2) This measures exactly 2 skills, Athletics and thrown weapons. Tenten, Keiko, and Ami are very good at thrown weapons. Naruto and Hazou are Not. Naruto, who I think we can say comfortably is the strongest combatant there, bombed one of those two checks, because he isn't a weapon thrower, and therefore did mediocre. So I'm pretty sure, while interesting, this isn't the most useful tool to compare combat ability.
After all, context is important, right ContextBot?
(Plus obligatory "sealmaster in own home" statement.)
I think the statement "Ami is a fairly new Jonin, who is competent in combat but focuses more of social/political efforts" is an accurate one. I also think that, since Hazou did manage to withstand Zabuza for a hot second, we know that punching up for a second so your more powerful allies can take advantage of the situation does work.
This also applies to us though. We're about to start FOOMING, but we need to be aware that FOOM start up cost plus slow wind up means that we'll still be punching up for a little while, as a competent but new chunin. And we shouldn't assume any enemy is trivial.
(Cut to Honoka accidentally using our best Macerator on us and it inflicting consequences for our hubris, plus a fairly funny update.)
Edit: Tenten is great though. I'm always down for interacting/supporting her as long as we don't impose ourselves or something.
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Eisenhelm
gran dutch of douchery
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- Colombia
I think she would rater take from the Nara resources.
Also I think I missed that honoka bit, where is it?
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
I'm always down to see more of Tenten, but I'm afraid that the Goketsu don't really have much to offer Tenten that the Nara aren't already providing for her. Equipment? That's just a matter of money, and the Nara have that, too. Seals? I'm sure that Keiko's already been giving Tenten access to our seals. The only thing that I can think of that the Goketsu could offer Tenten that the Nara couldn't is FOOM. And I'm not sure that I'm comfortable giving that secret to Tenten.
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
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- He/Him
We can offer her friendship and companionship beyond Keiko - I don't know how familial she feels towards the Nara, but that tends to be a matter of and, not or, if it's attractive. Whether or not she's interested in any of that is an open question, but it is something we can offer.
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IIRC Tenten's most interested in her freedom, which being part of a clan (and thus subservient to it) gets in the way of.