@faflec et al. For +5 XP could I get a list of all the jutsu Mari has been shown to know? Thanks!
In addition to what faflec posted: iirc, when the team was harvesting ice, Mari had a unspecified lightning jutsu that was apparently "perfect" for harvesting said ice. I suppose it could have been the wire-lightning jutsu that faflec mentioned, but I suppose I always envisioned a lightning sword or something.
Ah, I see what you meant. I'm a little uncomfortable actively pushing the players towards something...but, on the other hand, it would be nice to be able to send clear signals about what I'd like to write. Let me and @Velorien chew on it.
On incentivizing the player base to not do Marked for Spreadsheets:
The issue I see is that there are a lot of problems in the MfD world that closely resemble real world issues, either past or present, that the players care about a lot. However, in MfD, unlike in the real world, the player base can have a MASSIVE tangible impact on these issues. As such, it's incredibly cathartic to do so, even though it results in a lot of plans that are "meeting-meeting-plan for a meeting-meeting discussing a plan-plan-more meetings". It's like the ultimate isekai/escapist fantasy thing, complete with actual amazing authors and fantastic characters to round out the solving-problems-that-we-can't-in-real-life thing.

A possible solution towards getting people back on the punching/excitement/meeting new people track would be to say "X is taking care of it in the background".

Something like, "Ami recognizes that Keiko lives in this world, and thus wants the world to be fixed so Keiko lives in a better world". Thus Ami becomes (among all the other things she is) a quest giver, much like the leaf mission desk, except that she comes to us to get us to do things for her or be her instruments for uplift.

The goal being to be able to satisfy the player base that the things that we're kind of bored of doing, but really want to be done, are being done in the background. Allowing us to focus on other things, or only the exciting parts of the boring stuff.

I don't know how well this came across; the Ami thing was just a specific implementation example to a more general solution, assuming that I've correctly understood and described the problem.

Jiraiya did not kill Minami, nor did he directly order Mari to do so.
So it was indirect. Good to know.

Another Aura for Hazou's collection! We've got some rare ones already, from auras who have stopped publication, but as they say, more is more.

SC Math for Chapter 387:
@eaglejarl, @Velorien
By the SOPs, Keiko is training with 4 clones and Akane is training with 3. With 4 base XP, the SC payouts are:
  • Keiko: +1.6 XP (4 x0.4)
  • Akane: +1.2 XP (4 x0.3)
All previous payouts are accounted for.
It appears to me that when the brevity xp are against us, they're counted as being part of the base xp for shadow clones (see the 4*(4-2)+1 update), but when they're for us (see the current update) they don't count. If this is the known and intentional way that SCs work, cool. I just wanted to make sure that it was intentional.

Or I'm just messing up reading comprehension somewhere and making a fool of myself. Who knows. Not me.

On the final note for my at-this-point-basically-annual post in this thread, I would like to thank the authors. @eaglejarl, @Velorien, you guys are amazing. This and one other story are by far my favorite works on the internet, possibly ever. I literally think about my week in terms of MfD updates. The writing is phenomenal, and it's amazing to see both myself and others around me in the characters you've written. Thank you for everything you've done, and whenever I stop being a starving student and get a job, you both are getting something on patreon from me.
 
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It appears to me that when the brevity xp are against us, they're counted as being part of the base xp for shadow clones (see the 4*(4-2)+1 update), but when they're for us (see the current update) they don't count. If this is the known and intentional way that SCs work, cool. I just wanted to make sure that it was intentional.
Actually, we used @Inferno Vulpix's calculations off base XP (16), without the brevity penalty.
On the final note for my at-this-point-basically-annual post in this thread, I would like to thank the authors. @eaglejarl, @Velorien, you guys are amazing. This and one other story are by far my favorite works on the internet, possibly ever. I literally think about my week in terms of MfD updates. The writing is phenomenal, and it's amazing to see both myself and others around me in the characters you've written. Thank you for everything you've done, and whenever I stop being a starving student and get a job, you both are getting something on patreon from me.
Thank you very much!
 
It appears to me that when the brevity xp are against us, they're counted as being part of the base xp for shadow clones (see the 4*(4-2)+1 update), but when they're for us (see the current update) they don't count. If this is the known and intentional way that SCs work, cool. I just wanted to make sure that it was intentional.

Or I'm just messing up reading comprehension somewhere and making a fool of myself. Who knows. Not me.
Brevity XP doesn't count in either situation. In the 4*(4-2)+1, the base XP was 16 (4 XP/day times 4 days) and the brevity XP was also multiplied by the timeframe (-2 XP times 4 days), so our final total was 9 (after the end +1), but we used the 16 base XP for the SC calculation anyways.

Unless the QMs decide otherwise, I'm fairly confident that that will continue to be the case going forwards.
 
On disincentivizing MfS, with maybe a little help from the QMs, that's something that the player base can do ourselves without the QMs needing to wholesale do it for us.

We could make plans to convince Ami that uplift is a thing she wants to do for her own reasons, and then have her take over in such a way that we only have to give her lists of ideas.

Alternately, give Gaku more hiring and administrative power, allowing him to hire specialists, assistants, and whatnot on his own. Then we can just give him a list of objectives or projects (probably offscreen) and say "get it done" and he can take care of all that. We'd only receive overviews, and they'd probably only be onscreen when something went wrong or otherwise interestingly. Also, maybe have Mari social spec up some trustworthy social specs to take care of all the not-super-important meetings, so we're only seeing the high stakes ones that the player base needs to treat like combat.

Basically, accomplishing tasks is more efficiently done if we're delegating. We've somewhat done this, setting up task groups for projects and hiring Gaku, but we're still pretty involved in the day to day running of uplift. We should set up more human infrastructure so that's not necessary.
Actually, we used @Inferno Vulpix's calculations off base XP (16), without the brevity penalty.
Ah, sorry. My reading comprehension failed on your post explaining the 4-2 to Inferno Vulpix and I apparently couldn't be bothered to read a whole 5 posts down where you explained.
 
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Why is Hazo sending Gaku? He's too valuable to die. And we haven't seen that Gaku is good at negotiating.
Good to see Gaku likes/trusts us.
Gaku is going a few miles down the road with a heavy ninja escort. Yes, the two grownup are injured but they are still dangerous. The three genin are genin, but they're still ninja.

Aside from that, it's a gesture of trust for Gaku, showing him how important and trusted he is. It's also a low-stakes test of whether or not he can handle negotiations and other sorts of free-flowing situations. If so, and if he enjoys it, he can be given more independent responsibility.

@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail
I thought we already had the mechanics from when Zabuza used his aura on us? He was holding back, but it was mentioned that meant he wasn't using FPs or Aspects. And I assume that he could pull a punch. But shouldn't the mechanics be similar? Especially since Mari was also holding back on Hazou. If so don't we already know the redacted stat is Resolve, and that the stat Mari was using is intimidation? Also last time you made an exception and allowed Hazou to use Forged in Fire despite it not fitting the stunt text. Since this is a similar situation would it apply as well?
Respectively:

Not the complete mechanics.
They are.
No and no.
No. That was a very high-stakes situation and I was feeling especially generous. Neither of those things was true this time. (I wasn't feeling anti-generous either, merely neutral.)

On the final note for my at-this-point-basically-annual post in this thread, I would like to thank the authors. @eaglejarl, @Velorien, you guys are amazing. This and one other story are by far my favorite works on the internet, possibly ever. I literally think about my week in terms of MfD updates. The writing is phenomenal, and it's amazing to see both myself and others around me in the characters you've written. Thank you for everything you've done, and whenever I stop being a starving student and get a job, you both are getting something on patreon from me.
Thank you very much. That's very nice to hear.
 
"With respect again, sir...you had two tickets. You used one of them for Lady Akane; no one begrudges that. She was your sister-in-arms for years, of course you would adopt her. You used the second for Lord Haru, not anyone on the estate. You then bought a third ticket which remains fallow. I respectfully suggest that Reo and the others are quite justified in their feelings."

That hurt a little because Gaku has a point. Yet I still wouldn't want Hazou to have done it any other way because we need to invest the tickets into more... useful people first. As bad as it sounds.

And it's not like the others are mistreated either.

That said, I have come up with a genius idea that can do everything at once:

Let's marry everyone. Literally anyone who we want to adopt.

Ain't no rule that you can only have one spouse :Citation Needed:. Or rather, there ain't once the Hagoromo have been taken care of.

I also have a good feeling that we can get the QMs on board.

Think about it!

Harem Lord Hazou has so much untapped romcom potential in him. Plus not only does it make him more like Jiraiya, we can also hold monthly punching tournaments between all of our spouses to determine best boy/best girl.

It also neatly solves the issue of Hazou being stuck in Leaf because he can go on a weekly honeymoon for each of them, exploring the wilderness, meeting new people for the QMs to come up if they like and so on.

Put your trust in me.

Vote for Marked for Love - A Rational Harem Quest.
 
That hurt a little because Gaku has a point. Yet I still wouldn't want Hazou to have done it any other way because we need to invest the tickets into more... useful people first. As bad as it sounds.

And it's not like the others are mistreated either.

That said, I have come up with a genius idea that can do everything at once:

Let's marry everyone. Literally anyone who we want to adopt.

Ain't no rule that you can only have one spouse :Citation Needed:. Or rather, there ain't once the Hagoromo have been taken care of.

I also have a good feeling that we can get the QMs on board.

Think about it!

Harem Lord Hazou has so much untapped romcom potential in him. Plus not only does it make him more like Jiraiya, we can also hold monthly punching tournaments between all of our spouses to determine best boy/best girl.

It also neatly solves the issue of Hazou being stuck in Leaf because he can go on a weekly honeymoon for each of them, exploring the wilderness, meeting new people for the QMs to come up if they like and so on.

Put your trust in me.

Vote for Marked for Love - A Rational Harem Quest.

*Squints*

Yeah, that checks out.
[xD] Marked for Love - A Rational Harem Quest
 
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Unfortunately that will run into the same issues as any other method of getting stupid amounts of adoption slots: Other clans will hate us for it.
 
Other clans will hate us for it.

Naturally.

But that is what the political marriages are for.

If we can bag Naruto or Tsunade we win. And nothing will stand in the way of love. And gratuitous punching.

[ಠ⌣ಠ] Marked for Love - A Rational Harem Quest
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Tua on Nov 2, 2020 at 5:54 AM, finished with 30 posts and 3 votes.

  • [x] Marked for Love - A Rational Harem Quest
    [X] Commission a sealed room of lead and test if Shadow Clone memories come back to us through it

Voting is closed.

Good job, team. We won.
 
Precommitting my vote this action plan for any plans that contain some iteration of "talk to Akane about Hazou questioning his sexuality."

Subject to sanity checks, of course. If that action plan also has us summoning a Grue to fight the Hag for us, I miiight not vote for it.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Tua on Nov 2, 2020 at 5:54 AM, finished with 30 posts and 3 votes.

  • [x] Marked for Love - A Rational Harem Quest
    [X] Commission a sealed room of lead and test if Shadow Clone memories come back to us through it

Voting is closed.

Good job, team. We won.
Could we maybe save the jokes about undermining the democratic process for... not the day before an election where the president has promised to undermine the democratic process?
 
That hurt a little because Gaku has a point. Yet I still wouldn't want Hazou to have done it any other way because we need to invest the tickets into more... useful people first. As bad as it sounds.

I have a plot for this but it will have to wait until a Thursday update after this whole wedding deadline thing is taken care of and we can relax a bit while leisurely plotting the downfall of our foes (and before doing something drastic that I will stress out about).
 
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail

There was the whole plot to aquire some cheap grapeland via the Kurusu auction:

"These are predictions about what other clans are doing, financially and otherwise. The first page is the summary. The most interesting item is the second page; one of Lady Mari's friends on the Merchant Council has alerted us that the Kurusu are going to be auctioning off some of the land they gained as their prize in Lord Hokage's contest. Simultaneously, the Amori are probably looking to acquire land suitable for grape farming. I've included a map that shows the three main locations where grapes are grown and several other locations that might or might not be feasible as well.

"The Kurusu won the 'ten thousand acres' prize in Lord Hokage's contest and will be choosing the acreage shortly. They plan on auctioning some of it off and will be accepting bids soon; bidders are expected to provide a last-and-final bid and a map of the acreage they would like. Sale will undoubtedly be contingent on the Hokage granting the relevant land to the Kurusu.

and we told Mari to do it (July 25):

"I passed on your message to Lady Gōketsu that she is to acquire all the available grape-producing land in Fire."

It's August 30, did we get it? Or did the auction not happen yet?
 
Conventional wisdom states Jonin auras are soul battles. If it's a battle, there should be a way to cheat.
 
[X] Not!Marked for Love - A Rational Harem Quest

For the love of Abaddon no.
 
I'm 90% certain that I remember marrying a clanless requires an adoption slot to prevent exactly this. Interclan and jounin gets passess because it doesn't affect anyone but the involved clans, but anything which changes the general distribution of tax benefits for everybody is strictly regulated, hence why we need that slot for Yuno.
 
My vote earlier was a joke vote, but I do support a harem for Hazou. I liked the possibility someone pitched that Snowflake might not be romantically attracted to Tenten and instead might instead prefer other people. If that's the case, it'd explain some of Snowflake's proposition toward Hazou earlier.

It'd also make me very happy because we get romcom shenanigans involving way more people, which means way more fun! We'd also get to see Ino, and Snowflake way more often while still including Akane. And we even have shadow clones to help us keep up with potential worries of Hazou's time being monopolized by one SO.

But yeah I don't know if polygamous marriage is legal so we shouldn't actually vote for that at the moment, and I don't think it's a good or feasible plan anyway.
 
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