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Clarification: is Hazō publicly claiming that the Mizukage is LGBT?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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[X] Action Plan: Tying the Bloody Knot
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[X] Action Plan: Tying the Bloody Knot
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
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How would Hazou even know this?
This was a line said betwee Team Downfall.
And I'd be quite surprised if Hazou kept up on the dating habits of his aunt. Cause that'd be, uh, weird.
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Removed that section
Tua
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Could you respond to the points I made above? Even a "don't care" would help me calibrate future plan feedback or rather the lack of it.
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Yes. Hazō was attracted to one of the clanless Genin from the chunnin exam.
The point is that Hazō is supporting them. He has declared that he is challenging the hags Interpretation of the will of fire. By making a call to action he is trying to build a community to support each other.
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Can you remind me when/who this was?
Tua
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First of all, thanks.
I don't remember this at all but it's been so long so it's certainly possible.
I am not disputing that the intent of the plan is that Hazou wants to support them. I question whether the phrasing/actions will make it look more like him trying to pressure them into supporting his cause of change before they are ready to it up as their cause.
Hence me stressing the fact that the offer should be just that, not ask them to commit to anything yet. Let them think about it and don't rush it.
I don't remember this at all but it's been so long so it's certainly possible.
I am not disputing that the intent of the plan is that Hazou wants to support them. I question whether the phrasing/actions will make it look more like him trying to pressure them into supporting his cause of change before they are ready to it up as their cause.
Hence me stressing the fact that the offer should be just that, not ask them to commit to anything yet. Let them think about it and don't rush it.
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As a straight man, I can assure you that thinking "X is lucky that he's so attractive to girls" is not inherently a sign of homosexual inclinations.
Tua
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Death of the author and all that, but I read that completely different.
Like how early Noburi was jealous of Hazou's looks because that Noburi was really, really insecure.
E: What Vel said.
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Which the plan does not say Hazō has. He just says he is going to begin investigating those feelings now.
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Sure. But when writing an update from someone's POV, the distinction between someone's words and inner experience is important.
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Well I am very disappointed by this. Comphet strikes again
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Agony that desires to meet Extinction
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Really Oneiros? You're going with that angle?
Tua
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I had to look up that term but I am not seeing how it even applies here?
Let alone this being a very bad faith reading of what Velorien said.
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Adhoc vote count started by Velorien on Oct 28, 2020 at 8:01 AM, finished with 214 posts and 19 votes.
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[X] Action plan: a rainbow tapestry woven with the threads of steel
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[X] Action Plan: Tying the Bloody Knot
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[x] Action Plan: Information is Key in Love and War
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[X] Plan: A Nerd's nerves
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[X] Action Plan: The quiet knife stabs the deepest
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[x] Action Plan: Stab people!
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[x] Action Plan: If You Know The Enemy And Know Yourself, Then You Need Not Fear The Result Of A Hundred Battles
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[X] Stonewall Initiative
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Voting is closed.Adhoc vote count started by Velorien on Oct 28, 2020 at 8:01 AM, finished with 214 posts and 19 votes.
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Oof. I was literally formatting my vote too, just now. I suppose it wouldn't have changed the top vote anyways...
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This was my intent when I wrote it.
Or, alternatively, ~95% of Americans are straight according to Gallup and I have no reason to think the numbers are different anywhere else in the world. Therefore, the prior is 95% that any human character in simulationist fiction will be straight.
tl;dr Don't be a brat, Oneiros.
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Yeah... that's something we need to work on. Will do our best to not be one moving forward
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(Just saying that I'm not intending to inflame anything or spark further debate, just a bit of analysis of statistics. Also, if this post is out of order, I apologize.)
I have seen 10%, like the Kinsey study of long ago, with no indication of that number decreasing. Also, most surveys tend to have flaws in their counting, like "are you living and in a relationship with someone who is the same sex" (US census does that), that ignore single non-straight people, people who are not L/G and in straight-passing relationships, and many different living situations. Also the LGBTQ+ community has different facits, so it's hard to include, because incredibly few studies ask questions about all members of the community and compile them.
Also, it is my understanding that numbers do tend to be different, though not usually "different by more than double digits", in different parts of the world, due to social awareness and repression/comparative lack thereof.
That said, I very much support EJ and Vel with their interpretation of Hazou's sexual identity, and how it reads. And I definitely think general representation in this story, and how it's been done, has been positive and refreshing, especially compared to...a lot of other content. I just want to make clear that I do appreciate that. Even if, as Oneiros alluded to, Comphet is Often the case elsewhere.
TL;dr: The number in the LGBTQ+ community is higher than 5%, though a couple factors make it hard to get an exact number on that. Lots of non-cishet people do be existing. I believe EJ and Vel have done a good job showing this in story, which I personally appreciate.
I have seen 10%, like the Kinsey study of long ago, with no indication of that number decreasing. Also, most surveys tend to have flaws in their counting, like "are you living and in a relationship with someone who is the same sex" (US census does that), that ignore single non-straight people, people who are not L/G and in straight-passing relationships, and many different living situations. Also the LGBTQ+ community has different facits, so it's hard to include, because incredibly few studies ask questions about all members of the community and compile them.
Also, it is my understanding that numbers do tend to be different, though not usually "different by more than double digits", in different parts of the world, due to social awareness and repression/comparative lack thereof.
That said, I very much support EJ and Vel with their interpretation of Hazou's sexual identity, and how it reads. And I definitely think general representation in this story, and how it's been done, has been positive and refreshing, especially compared to...a lot of other content. I just want to make clear that I do appreciate that. Even if, as Oneiros alluded to, Comphet is Often the case elsewhere.
TL;dr: The number in the LGBTQ+ community is higher than 5%, though a couple factors make it hard to get an exact number on that. Lots of non-cishet people do be existing. I believe EJ and Vel have done a good job showing this in story, which I personally appreciate.
So, back to brainstorming ways to not lose if we end up having to fight a jonin and two chunin?
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One of the problems is that jonin aura may happen every turn. I don't think we've ever had it happen to us long enough to to find out whether jonin aura can be sustained throughout a fight, nor have we actually tried fighting while under a jonin aura's effects.
So when we spar with Mari we should have her use her jonin aura during at least one of the spars, so we can at least get a feel for whether it's possible for us to fight at all in such a fight.
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Ritsuo is around 40 years old IIRC, so it's possible he's an Elite Jonin. So worse case scenario is one Elite Jonin and two chunin.
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If he's in his 40s, that's a long ninja career. Lots of time for injuries to accumulate and weak points to develop (arthritis/carpal tunnel, bad joints, etc). I mean, he's probably scary (look at Mari, she's not a combat jonin or am E-jonin, but she's still damned terrifying) but I wouldn't necessarily say he's impossible to beat. Hard? Yup (especially depending on how Hazou stacks against Mari). But impossible? Not really.