I don't suppose that there is any point in repeating myself before the Hagoromo put their heads together with the Hyuuga and retaliate with full knowledge that the clock is in their favor?

Also, all love for Noburi and it makes thematic sense for him to be a champion, but he's not the best fighter available. Haru, Akane and even Tenten are potentially eligible while the Hagoromo have both a Jounin clan head and can probably wrangle another Jounin and Neji over this matter. The whole trial-by-combat lunacy favors them.

-unless, the combatants include a bijuu and sannin, which might well deter them from even engaging.


Seriously, we have resources to tap. Use them.
 
Note: EJ has confirmed Ritsuo the Hagoromo clan head is in fact a Jonin.
Also note he was not at the Battle of the Gods, so he's either recently promoted or he was on a mission.
 
Note: EJ has confirmed Ritsuo the Hagoromo clan head is in fact a Jonin.
Also note he was not at the Battle of the Gods, so he's either recently promoted or he was on a mission.
Or not combat-spec.

Hey, can/should we bring Mari to a potential fight? Because an elite-jounin genjutsu spec with a nearly-inescapable multi-targetting genjutsu sounds amazing.
 
"Tell me again what happened. Leave out no detail."

"Your will, Lord.

"I purified myself before the rise of the sun, dressed in my finest vestments, and made obeisance at the outer door. I entered, locked the door behind me, and performed obeisance again. Then I cleansed myself again. I unlocked the inner door and entered. I performed obeisance and cleansed myself again. I spoke the words to the family kami and then explained that Master Nobuyasu was gravely ill but he felt that I was ready and thus had granted me leave to perform the ceremony in his stead. I said that I would leave immediately if this was unacceptable to the Great Ones and to please grant me a sign if it were the case. The lamp never so much as flickered, My Lord! I swear it."

"You swear it? And your word is worth what? You failed your duty to the treasures of Clan Hagoromo! Our history is impoverished for your carelessness and stupidity!" Ritsuo found himself out of his chair and on his feet, killing intent flooding the room and driving Uryū to his knees in full dogeza. The already-terrified middle-aged chūnin was groveling, pleading for his life and sobbing.

Ritsuo forced himself to control his breathing and his temper. He wrestled his killing intent back into its box and sat down again.

"Continue. Leave out no detail."

"Yes, My Lord. The kami having given no sign, I moved around the room, performing the full purification ritual at each corner and each center. I started at the southwest corner, the one farthest from the door, as is specified in the ancestral texts. I made obeisance before refilling the reservoir on the Ancestral Flame. I unboxed the new lampshade and set the box aside reverently. I cleansed the inside and outside of the shade with the sacred brush, and then I changed it out for the shade already on the Flame so that the family kami would have new patterns of light and shadow to amuse them. I said the prayer, tapped the gong, and sprinkled a drop of water. Then I moved to the center of the east wall, made obeisance, said the prayer, and sprinkled a drop of water. I moved to the northeast corner and made obeisance, and that is when the Ancestral Flame erupted.

"Sacred oil splashed everywhere and the very air seemed to ignite. The oil soaked my vestments and I was ablaze. My hair scorched and burned but I slapped it out with my sleeve as I ran out the door. It was only then that I realized what had happened. I opened the door to go back and attempt to salvage some of the Treasures, but the fire was too hot. I am so, so sorry, My Lord."

That poor Boy. He does everything right, but it's not good enough. Clearly he should have broken a limb during the ritual.

Has someone been watching TTS? :p
 
So, do we want to turn up the heat besides "Continue Previous Plan"?
There are two major things I felt the plan didn't really have time to do justice. The first is spitting on the face of the Hagoromo so they're angry enough to accept a not-duel (the stuff I put in the plan is a first step but far from a complete package). The second is, well:
I don't suppose that there is any point in repeating myself before the Hagoromo put their heads together with the Hyuuga and retaliate with full knowledge that the clock is in their favor?
We've started pressing the attack, and now's the time to keep an eye out for counterattack.
 
Honestly i was expecting something more like:

ASUMA: Oh nice. Any reason?

HAZOU: Yeah. Not really.

ASUMA: Hahaha. So did the ANBU capture Kagome yet? How large is the crater?

HAZOU: ... ah, I can see why you would think that, sir. Actually...
 
SC Math (Applied):
@eaglejarl, @Velorien
By the SOPs, Keiko is training with 4 clones and Akane is training with 3. With 10 base XP, the SC payouts are:
  • Keiko: +4 XP (10 x0.4)
  • Akane: +3 XP (10 x0.3)
All prior payouts are accounted for.
 
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"That's the plan, yeah. You, me, Keiko against their Clan Head and two others of his choice. I'm going to need you to join in on some of these other spars to lay the groundwork."
Are we sure the Hagoromo don't have any jonin?
I don't suppose that there is any point in repeating myself before the Hagoromo put their heads together with the Hyuuga and retaliate with full knowledge that the clock is in their favor?

Also, all love for Noburi and it makes thematic sense for him to be a champion, but he's not the best fighter available. Haru, Akane and even Tenten are potentially eligible while the Hagoromo have both a Jounin clan head and can probably wrangle another Jounin and Neji over this matter. The whole trial-by-combat lunacy favors them.

-unless, the combatants include a bijuu and sannin, which might well deter them from even engaging.


Seriously, we have resources to tap. Use them.
Note: EJ has confirmed Ritsuo the Hagoromo clan head is in fact a Jonin.
Also note he was not at the Battle of the Gods, so he's either recently promoted or he was on a mission.
*screaming*


Have we at least asked Mari if she knows or can find out anything about the Hag head's combat ability and if they have any other powerful ninja?
 
Have we at least asked Mari if she knows or can find out anything about the Hag head's combat ability

Mari received a comprehensive dossier on all clan heads right after Jiraiya proclaimed himself Fifth Hokage. Presumably this includes the Hagoromo one. @eaglejarl @OliWhail @Velorien ?

Three cheers for Chekhov's Armory!

(Now we only have to invoke Chekhov's Amori !! )
 
There are two major things I felt the plan didn't really have time to do justice. The first is spitting on the face of the Hagoromo so they're angry enough to accept a not-duel (the stuff I put in the plan is a first step but far from a complete package). The second is, well:

We've started pressing the attack, and now's the time to keep an eye out for counterattack.

The time to prepare for a counterattack is before the attack.

This is a royal-founding-clan backed voting clan involved in a gambit by a royal-founding-clan which has already looped in the Hokage who know that all they have to do to win is delay for a single week. You check what pieces you have and where they lay before you move. Ad hoc contingencies are not contingencies.

If the Hagoromo simply declare that they are dropping their grudge against the Goeketsu but, oh dear, the stars are in inauspicious alignment for marriage for the rest of the month and they can't in good conscience conduct one, what are you going to do?


Talk to Tsunade and Naruto.
 
If the Hagoromo simply declare that they are dropping their grudge against the Goeketsu but, oh dear, the stars are in inauspicious alignment for marriage for the rest of the month and they can't in good conscience conduct one, what are you going to do?

Do the mature thing and tattle to Asuma that the Hagoromo are mean to us and that he should put them in the timeout corner, of course.

Though I do like your idea. We should have Naruto and Tsunade come along while we do this. Having two S-rankers loom threateningly behind us while we negotiate with the Hokage will work this time, for sure. :lol:
 
Oh wow that went super well. Go preparation!

In summary, the Hagoromo aren't doing well, know it's us, and can't prove it, meaning they're likely to accept a duel (and if they only have one jonin they think they can win too, so they should accept); we avoided a downfall in rep from cutting off payment completely; Asuma seems happier with us (what an amazing apology); and we didn't fully reveal chakradar so now we can plan to parcel things out for optimal effect.

I agree that preparing for a counterattack is likely, and I think the best way to respond is by further applying the pressure. We're committed now, and we only have 7 days until they have to be married.

Potential pressure points:

Can we get the Kurusu to postpone their wedding and prioritize ours? (Also a good response to Lailoken - is there's already a wedding prepared, there's clearly not a problem with anything other than the Goketsu)

Publicly announce wedding to increase public expectation the Hagoromo do something

Set up duel after ensuring they're angry and think they can win (and also make sure that we can win, but as legitimately as possible.

Talk to specific Hagoromo priests

Ask Ino, Shikamaru/Keiko, Ami, and any other asset if they can apply pressure for the wedding to happen (are any of Noburi's friends Hagoromo?)

Hinata and possible counter-attacks

Also appreciate the SC calcs IV! Those are very important in getting FOOM actually working.
 
The Four were to play at the wedding of Lord Kurusu's son next week, and now they will play with a pauper's instruments because you allowed the masterworks to become ash!

So either we can do a swapsies here, or we can use this as more ammo for the pain train.
 
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