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The simplest answer to the falling question may be that chakra boosting your limbs at just the right moment allows you to absorb the impact. How many times in the canon series do ninja execute a jump from a high place and land without breaking their bones?

There's probably a height limitation, to be sure. I wouldn't try it from cloud level. But how high are Skytowers built to anyway?
 
What are you talking about? As long as you have enough explosives it's easy to not touch the ground.
Explosives don't help you with falls, because blast waves don't really push on things. They just sort of cause them to wobble.

The only explosive that would help was a rocket, and we don't have those yet.
 
Explosives don't help you with falls, because blast waves don't really push on things. They just sort of cause them to wobble.

The only explosive that would help was a rocket, and we don't have those yet.
I was implying that we could blow up the ground, thus making it not exist, thus preventing us from ever hitting the ground.

Or kill ourselves, either/or.
 
The simplest answer to the falling question may be that chakra boosting your limbs at just the right moment allows you to absorb the impact. How many times in the canon series do ninja execute a jump from a high place and land without breaking their bones?

There's probably a height limitation, to be sure. I wouldn't try it from cloud level. But how high are Skytowers built to anyway?

Keep in mind that we may want to develop things like gliders and airplanes in which you can easily be going hundred of miles.

Figuring out how to survive an uncontrolled falls mean that glider flight will be much less dangerous.
 
You can't walk to the ground, so you can't substitute to the ground. Similarly, you can't substitute while bound.
Thats not actually what the rules state.

Substitution allows you to reach locations you could have reached "by means normally available to you-running, jumping, wall/water walking all count."(FtD: pg 41)

If jumping works then falling should also work, since half of jumping is falling.
 
What about inventing a gravity manipulation jutsu, or adapting a wind jutsu to enable someone to, if not fly, slow down a fall sufficiently to make a landing without injury?
 
Keep in mind that we may want to develop things like gliders and airplanes in which you can easily be going hundred of miles.

Figuring out how to survive an uncontrolled falls mean that glider flight will be much less dangerous.

Well in that case you already have the solution. Skywalkers, activated before your velocity gets too high.

I thought the discussion was more about figuring out how previous instances of jumping from high places had worked with no henge.
 
Thats not actually what the rules state.

Substitution allows you to reach locations you could have reached "by means normally available to you-running, jumping, wall/water walking all count."(FtD: pg 41)

If jumping works then falling should also work, since half of jumping is falling.
IIRC we can't Substitute through a Force wall, even though logically we could jump over it.
 
IIRC we can't Substitute through a Force wall, even though logically we could jump over it.
That doesnt necessarily mean it doesnt do jumping.

It may be that the subsitution technique doesnt recognize a Force Wall as an obstacle in the usual sense, or at least the same way it would a real wall. So trying to substitute through it gets you an "Error: Path obstructed." Message because the jutsu is trying to take the most optimal path (straight through) and finds this blocked for some reason it cant detect. So it aborts and nothing happens.

Edit: Im just trying to reconcile this with how the rules state the technique is supposed to work. The above is one possible (perhaps not plausible) explanation
 
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So apparently sealing failures that retcon the world are much more commonplace than we thought and thats absolutely terrifying and we need to put a stop to this as immediately as we can.

In other news: KAGOME FINISHED THE 5SB SHIPMENT! Yess!!
We should absolutely continue with civilian usable seals and making sealing an integral part of everyday life. Only good will come of this.
Martin? Martin?! That is the least anime name ever! Did Kagome have a boyfriend that got summoned from our universe via seal failure?!
*Carefully doesn't say his name on the internet*
Grue eating skywalkers and airships would be stupid, because skywalkers was absolutely pivotal to why we are in the Chūnin exam in the first place and the ultimate battle of ultimate destiny and Konohagakure's hope for utter domination.
I believe the term is "tragic" not "stupid." There are likely hundreds of ninjas whose careers were ended by the henge shift. Right now, a skywalker shift would mostly impact us and not nearly as many others.
 
That doesnt necessarily mean it doesnt do jumping.

It may be that the subsitution technique doesnt recognize a Force Wall as an obstacle in the usual sense, or at least the same way it would a real wall. So trying to substitute through it gets you an "Error: Path obstructed." Message because the jutsu is trying to take the most optimal path (straight through) and finds this blocked for some reason it cant detect. So it aborts and nothing happens.

Edit: Im just trying to reconcile this with how the rules state the technique is supposed to work. The above is ome possible (perhaps not plausible) explanation

If Sealing really is about abusing bugs in the chakraOS, then it makes perfect sense that jutsu would interact strangely with seals. The latter would, after all, be doing unintended things that the jutsu logic wouldn't be equipped to handle.

I wonder if there are any experiments we can perform to test this further.
 
If Sealing really is about abusing bugs in the chakraOS, then it makes perfect sense that jutsu would interact strangely with seals. The latter would, after all, be doing unintended things that the jutsu logic wouldn't be equipped to handle.

I wonder if there are any experiments we can perform to test this further.
Have clones try to abuse the Substitution technique in various ways through our defensive-type seals?
 
You know, clearly Kagome is the Sage of the Six Paths. It's why he calls Dummy that. Kagome just doesn't remember he is the Sage, because he experienced a sealing failure at the moment the Sage body swapped into him and the two got blended together and had their memories muddled.
 
So apparently sealing failures that retcon the world are much more commonplace than we thought and thats absolutely terrifying and we need to put a stop to this as immediately as we can.

In other news: KAGOME FINISHED THE 5SB SHIPMENT! Yess!!
Short of somehow abolishing sealing and getting rid of all knowledge of it, the only way to minimize shifts is to ensure that nobody causes sealing failures deliberately, and apparently there's already a secret organization doing that.

Assuming the shifts are being caused by sealing failures, anyway. Do we know that for sure yet?
 
You know, this is probably why you can't put chakra inside normal storage seals. The space inside the seal shouldn't be accessible to normal users and therefore doesn't have chakra mechanics defined. Result is some kind of exception that crashes the process.
 
Honestly, this seems like a poor choice of interlude to show to us, at least if it's actually canon.

We care about reality, and we are (evidently) a vital component of Hazou's mind functioning. We are going to care about that Kagome, one of the few character's we've bonded with over the course of the quest so far, is exposed to this side of reality, and we're probably going to end up pushing for Hazou to try and learn about this from Kagome, which in turn means that's the retcons are going to become a plot-point, which is bad because it means that you can't retcon freely, which is the whole point of retcons.
 
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