I suggest not burrowing any further down this rabbit hole unless we want to run headlong into "deontology vs consequentialism 2: electric boogaloo". Because that is exactly where this discussion is headed.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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- Yes.
I don't think this is going to contribute anymore to the thread, and politely ask you to stop. Since it seems that you haven't caught up with the thread, might I ask you to continue reading so that you can involve yourself in discussing our current situation, specifically:
- How to build the fort/trap surrounding area.
- How to react to ninjas coming to trade.
- How to react to ninjas coming to fight.
- Interactions between our team and allied teams (Team Akane, Team Guy, Team Asuma).
- What Pangolins we should get (max 4).
- What Pangolin jutsu we should get (max 1).
- Location
- Snakesden
It seems like a lot of our concerns about the fort involve escape. Maybe a pangolin that aids with that, or this set if we think they can obviate that need entirely? Could try and get a buffing pangolin with speed-enhancing jutsu maybe.
I agree. I wonder if the QMs would like it better if we gave the other characters specific questions, though with the assumption that we're still interested in their other advice. That seems less offload-y, requires/incentivizes specific plans ("Nara, should we cover the escape route with X or Y?" "Neji, what's a good hidden rendezvous point?"), and allows the other characters to call us idiots for asking about X while neglecting Y. #FatePoints, baby.
(Disclaimer: I have no idea how earning Fate Points works.)
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
I think the first thing we should do is explain to the other teams the seals we have available and are willing to share with them (Air Domes, Earth Domes, practice explosives for Tenten, 5SB, etc.), see if they have any ideas for what to do with them.
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- Yes.
Buffing Pangolin should cover escape, Protect the Log buffs TacMove/Athletics IIRC and they should have more than just that. I'd imagine that between that, our traps, and our actual skills we should be fine to retreat.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
There's only so much chakra to go around. We can't have *that* many out.
- Location
- Yes.
What, buffs? The Pangolin buffer is literally made to do this, I'm not sure why they wouldn't have enough chakra?
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
No, Keiko
So any timeframe on when we might get back to the chunin exams story? Not that I don't enjoy the various interludes and appreciate the effort to establish coherent worldbuilding/rules mind you.
We may be overthinking this, I admit. If you look back before the retcon, it was narrated through as, "some teams come by, trade seals, and then leave". Like, maybe it's just not worth wasting wordcount on.
NOW. Put up a plan right now, vote on it, and we'll be back at the next update
- Location
- Yes.
Well we don't have to summon all of them, just some. Communications, Long-ranged, Buffer, Defender. Keiko should be fine summoning twice with Noburi's help.No, Keiko
NO DO NOT DO THAT WE ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING READY AHHHHHHHH
...I can't tell if you're joking, but if you are then you might be misleading toxinvictory.
My understanding is that no shit, we are ready to go if the players can just come up with a plan.
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Also if we need more chakra we can just find some chakra beast and keep them in a pit for Noburi to drain
- Location
- Yes.
I'd tend to disagree. We still need information on:
- MEW.
- Vacuum Step.
- Syrup Trap.
- Pantokrator's Hammer.
- Keiko's 4 other Pangolins.
- Our 5th Pangolin jutsu.
- 5SB limitation specifics.
Speaking of voting...
[X] The Death of Hiruzen Sarutobi
[X] Team Uplift vs. Team Guy
[X] Leaf Rookies 1v1 Sparring
Could you do it if you wanted to, though?
I think the thread may have just lost the knack. Decision paralysis. Unable to continue the quest. The QMs have said that they are willing to go on if a plan is voted in, but there's genuine fear about doing so. As long as nobody votes in a plan, nobody dies. Perfect safety forever.
- Location
- Yes.
...I am literally in the process of making a plan. I've already written a module for making the fort. And posted it. And gotten feedback.
And then there's the fact that I've been pushing the hivemind to actually...well...talk. About it.
[X] Team Uplift vs. Team Guy
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- how about no
Holy Jashin on a stick, I know I haven't been here in a while but y'all need to stop stalking me.
This is exactly how I play a warlock early on in a campaign.
There are so many similarities it's scary.
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- UK
Bah, that's just consequentialism by a confused person. As soon as you say "we should hold this ethical framework because it has properties I like", you have assumed consequentialism and then convinced yourself you haven't.
- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
Sunday's update, hooooooopefully
Eh, only if the properties are related to outcomes, right?
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Be here more often! Let the Darkness consume you!
- Location
- Yes.
Unlikely, given how little time we have left and the information we still...well OK I suppose we don't need it but having it would be really beneficial.