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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rational rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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In Yagura's Mist, separation was a fact of life, as it was understood that one's duty to the state superseded everything, including any romantic relationships. Fortunately, the odds of a Mist I&S specialist, the ninja most likely to sent on a long-term mission, being in a meaningful romantic relationship were pretty low to begin with.
HDK about Leaf, but his general impression is similar if less stark. There generally isn't so much slack in the ratio of long-term missions to qualified personnel that the Hokage can dismiss a candidate from consideration just because they aren't single (and unlike Yagura, the Hokage probably doesn't have a secret police with an exhaustive knowledge of every ninja's current love life).
What effect is that exactly?
It replaces this:
Which is, in fact, a terrible SOP that we do not follow.
It's out of date since Dampeners/increased Callig. It makes no accounting for Hazou getting a better sense of how hard the seals are after making multiple infusions. And it's much too conservative.
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Is there a reason Hazou doesn't use Kagome's blast rings in combat?
+6 taijutsu and multiattack at melee range is a nice bonus.
+6 taijutsu and multiattack at melee range is a nice bonus.
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The "serious potential for friendly fire" is a bit of a deal-breaker. Safer blast rings only add a +3, which is covered by the Macerator v1.
[] Action Plan: Jiraiya's Heir
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- Sanity check w/ Mari
- Reveal the full details of Naruto's mission and ask her if there's anything we need to do before leaving
- Who should we appoint Acting Clan Head? Atomu? Haru?
- Clan Goketsu
- Brief everyone on the duration and length of the research mission. Keep to the public story for now
- Ask everyone to be ready to go by the day after tomorrow.
- Fill out the necessary paperwork and go to the Tower to have Naruto "assign" you this mission.
- Toad Sages
- Optimize this with Mari, ask her if she thinks we should involve Noburi/Kei while making the pitch.
- Explain the situation with Akatsuki on the Human Path. Akatsuki's dominance, Pain's inexorable pressure, the EN's impotence, Naruto's desperation.
- We are in a desperate situation. Hazou has had to leave Leaf on a long-term to keep Akatsuki from dropping by and discovering runes by accident
- (Might cut this) Explain the long term research mission to develop anti-Akatsuki weapons
- We need your help to save the Human Path as we helped save the Seventh Path, but rather than your strength, we need your knowledge.
- Under your tutelage Jiriaya grew into a titan, possibly the strongest human fighter of his time.
- We are coming to you on a bended knee to beg you for the same sort of training he received.
- We have some ideas to replicate a fraction of your power, but we would much rather learn from you instead.
- This is not insanity. We have good reason to think we stand a chance against Akatsuki, in time.
- If they seem interested, explain chakra filtering runes and chakra potential runes
- We have the keys to rediscovering Minato's way of combining TH and Sealing, but we're about to lose access to our teacher. Could you teach a human TH?
- We have cracked a way of using Noburi's power to make Shadow Clone training vastly more efficient.
- Would you be willing to accept us three as your disciples?
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Chapter 652: Preparing for Service
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"Now, as soon as we're done with this conversation I'm going to tell you that one of your ninja got into a fight with a KEI ninja in the market—it happened, I set it up. I'll tear strips off you about controlling your people better and then I'm out of here. Before that, I know you might have some questions. We're under extreme privacy, but I would still prefer not to have you speak about this aloud at all, even here. Still, do you have anything critical that really needs to be discussed?"
Hazō nodded.
Naruto made the Bird hand seal.
"Yeah, I was afraid you would," he said the normal way. "Sorry about the ninjutsu, by the way. I know it can cause eye strain in the target after a while. You'd think ear strain, but no. Chakra can be so weird sometimes. All right, hit me."
"I need to know that I've got my team," Hazō said. "If at all possible. That's Noburi, Kagome-sensei, Mari, Kei, and Yuno."
"Not happening," Naruto said instantly. "And that's not me being a hardass either. Hazō, Jiraiya once said that summoners are in the same basket as S-rankers when it comes to counter-intelligence priorities. Every enemy spymaster wants to know where they are and what they're doing at all times because a mature summoner is like a jōnin squared: they've got the tools to clear any mission and counter any type of enemy, and that's on top of their personal specialisation. And, of course, everybody wants the scroll.
"If I send half of Leaf's summoners, including Gōketsu 'Zoo Rush' Noburi, out on a mission under a veteran jōnin, people will ask which minor nation Leaf's about to conquer, and they won't all be kidding. Factor in all the other kinds of crazy firepower your team represents, and AMITY will be asking which minor nation Leaf's about to conquer. That's to say nothing of Akatsuki's informants. Even odds that the bastards will be out through the village gates before you are."
"I can't go alone," Hazō interrupted. "That's just not safe, not to mention that it'll kill my research efficiency and then the whole thing will be pointless."
"Nobody said you'd be going alone," Naruto said with a slightly exasperated shake of the head. "My point is that every extra person raises the mission's profile, and keeping it low-profile is how we buy you time and stop Akatsuki deciding it's happy fun massacre hour while we're still waiting for you to deliver the goods.
"The fact is, every single one of your people is famous in one way or another–even Yuno. She's damn good at what she does, and she's got the kind of extreme personality that makes people want to keep watching to see what she does next, the same way Maito Gai did. Unlike me, a retiring wallflower stuck as a celebrity from the day I was born, you guys have no one but yourselves to blame here.
"What that means is if you want to bring someone, you give me your case for why their contribution outweighs how much they'll shorten the fuse."
"All right," Hazō said. "The first one's a no-brainer. I need Noburi. Making rune blanks is chakra-intensive like you wouldn't believe. Without Noburi, I can make maybe one a day, assuming I don't need to do literally anything else ninja-like."
"What about paper seals?" Naruto asked. "No chakra costs there."
"No," Hazō agreed. "But when it comes to paper sealing, we're on an even playing field with multiple top-tier sealmasters who already have plenty of tricks up their sleeves. Or would if they had sleeves in combat mode. If we want paradigm-changing weaponry that they can't possibly see coming, runes are the way forward."
"Fair," Naruto said. "But I don't hear anything that Noburi can't do from here in the village, via the Seventh Path. In fact, he has to be here because he needs to drain his chakra from somewhere before he can give it to you. If he goes, either he drains your team, and then there's no point taking combatants along because they'll be dry when trouble hits, or he scavenges from chakra beasts and risks getting caught.
"Noburi's staying. Leaf needs him here, and literally everybody knows he's one of Leaf's major superweapons, so his absence will be noted. Besides, what's a super valuable military asset famous for his chakra transfer skills doing on a bog-standard sealing research mission? Either the research mission's a cover, which draws attention, or you're doing some kind of sealing research that needs tons of chakra, which draws even more attention. Everyone, including Akatsuki, already knows you're researching 3D sealing so you can fix the Great Seal."
"What if we change the cover story? Hazō asked. "For example, we have it on relia- good authority that the Forbidden Dungeon on Crimson State Island holds some valuable lore, and I was thinking of sacking it while we were out, though I guess that might be less viable with a smaller team. Could we combine the missions with that as the cover?"
Naruto smirked. "Because of course you hear the name 'Forbidden Dungeon' and you instantly want to delve it. You know, it's moments like these that make me feel like you and I could get along as just two guys, as opposed to political allies or Hokage and minion or whatever.
"As a cover story, though, it misses the point. A team of Leaf heavy-hitters heading to a legendary location on a quest for ancient lore? That gets plenty of attention, especially from the kind of people who know how powerful ancient lore can be. But what else is appropriate for Gōketsu Hazō? Offensive operations aren't on the table against anyone that matters right now. You're not a diplomat and you're way not an infiltrator. A sealmaster doing sealing research, though? Nobody's going to blink an eye.
"As for the dungeon, if you really think the lore is super valuable, go for it. Realistically, though, the research matters more."
Damn. Not off to a good start.
"I need Kagome-sensei as a fellow sealmaster," Hazō said. "We have plenty of experience working together, and he's a weapons specialist who can speed things up for me when it comes to paper sealing."
"How much do you need him?" Naruto asked. "No beating about the bush, you're a sealing genius. You came up with skywalkers–the theory, anyway–at fourteen, and even if you were in the right place at the right time, a new sealing paradigm at sixteen is ridiculous. I'm sure Dad would be so mad if he heard.
"Kagome… isn't a sealing genius. If he's come up with any game-changers since he joined the village, he hasn't let the Tower know. Can you tell me you're confident he can come up with some now, enough to outweigh sending out two summoners and sealmasters?"
Could Hazō, in all sincerity? Hazō and Kagome-sensei both knew he'd long since outgrown his sealing master. They both knew he'd long since stopped seeking him out for collaborative research, or even to double-check the theory behind his ideas before prototyping began in earnest. But still, Kagome-sensei had never stopped being Kagome-sensei, and Hazō had only recently realised how important it was for his master to know that.
"I can see why you'd want Mari," Naruto said, mercifully moving on. "Everybody wants Mari."
Hazō silently raised an eyebrow.
"Oh, shut up."
"Mari's the clan's strongest fighter," Hazō said. "I trust her more than anyone to keep me safe. It was brought to my attention a while back that I must be a priority capture target for half the world by now, between the sealing and the scroll, and AMITY should stop people from coming after me in theory, but still, I'd be crazy to go out there without a bodyguard who can handle the worst.
"Also, she's one of my two full-time sanity checkers. It may have come to your attention that sometimes when I'm in the grip of creativity, I… miss stuff. Minor details that somehow stop being minor at the worst possible time. Mari is Leaf's shield against that happening, and I think I could do with one of those when I'm making paradigm-changing superweapons."
"Best case yet," Naruto said. "Sage's ballsack, best case yet.
"Mari's not a summoner, either, so that helps. Sending her with you isn't a no-brainer, though, considering the state of Leaf right now. Ami's unavailable, and Kurenai's not up to a ton of travel right now for multiple reasons, and that suddenly leaves Mari as our top negotiator in the age of international diplomacy. Kei Ruri's helping pick up the slack, which is why Mari's not in Cloud right now, but she's also hella busy coordinating the Great Diaspora for the Condors, and is going to get even busier once the first wave is done. Oh, and our spies in Wind say something big is about to go down, and what'd you wanna bet that's going to mean all hands on deck at the Diplomatic Corps?
"Anyway, she's not your only sanity checker, right? Kei and I may not hang out as much as we used to, but I've been there for her drowning her sorrows with carrot cake more than once."
"Scurrilous exaggerations!" Hazō exclaimed. "What you don't hear about is all the day-to-day sanity checks during which I bring her sensitive clan head stuff and she shrugs and says something like, 'I perceive no obvious disasters that could result from this course of action, testimony though this may be only to my failure of imagination', and then I go ahead, and look, no disasters happen.
"Anyway, yes, she's the other person I trust to catch me before I fall. In fact, some of my most critical failures happened on occasions where I decided not to consult her first for whatever reason."
Like the Elemental Mastery experiment and everything that followed.
"Also, she's a very competent fighter in her own right, and a summoner with all the advantages that entails."
"And one of the most famous people in Leaf," Naruto noted, "as well as essential to the running of the KEI now she's its most senior member. Speaking of which, when's the victory party? I don't recall being invited."
"Victory party?"
"For the KEI elections," Naruto said.
"Huh," Hazō said. "She never even mentioned it to me."
"Weird. You'd think even Kei would feel good about having all those people choose her to be their leader.
"Anyway, sorry for getting us off topic. That just leaves Yuno. Honestly… I'm pretty OK with sending Yuno with you. She'd make a good bodyguard, and I won't say her unique hunting expertise isn't valuable, but Leaf won't collapse without her either."
Naruto thought for a moment.
"Yuno plus two out of Kagome, Mari, and Kei. In my judgement, that's about as far as we can afford to push our luck right now."
"I'd rather not take Yuno without Noburi," Hazō said as his heart sank. "They're important stabilising influences on each other."
"Your mission, your call," Naruto said. "Just don't forget that Yuno's a Leaf ninja, just like the rest of us. She goes where the village needs her to go. If it ever looks like we can't trust her to do that…"
Hazō didn't know what the implied end of that sentence was, and he decided he didn't want to ask.
"Now," Naruto said, "it's getting late, so let's speed this up. What else are you worried about?"
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Hazō nodded.
Naruto made the Bird hand seal.
"Yeah, I was afraid you would," he said the normal way. "Sorry about the ninjutsu, by the way. I know it can cause eye strain in the target after a while. You'd think ear strain, but no. Chakra can be so weird sometimes. All right, hit me."
"I need to know that I've got my team," Hazō said. "If at all possible. That's Noburi, Kagome-sensei, Mari, Kei, and Yuno."
"Not happening," Naruto said instantly. "And that's not me being a hardass either. Hazō, Jiraiya once said that summoners are in the same basket as S-rankers when it comes to counter-intelligence priorities. Every enemy spymaster wants to know where they are and what they're doing at all times because a mature summoner is like a jōnin squared: they've got the tools to clear any mission and counter any type of enemy, and that's on top of their personal specialisation. And, of course, everybody wants the scroll.
"If I send half of Leaf's summoners, including Gōketsu 'Zoo Rush' Noburi, out on a mission under a veteran jōnin, people will ask which minor nation Leaf's about to conquer, and they won't all be kidding. Factor in all the other kinds of crazy firepower your team represents, and AMITY will be asking which minor nation Leaf's about to conquer. That's to say nothing of Akatsuki's informants. Even odds that the bastards will be out through the village gates before you are."
"I can't go alone," Hazō interrupted. "That's just not safe, not to mention that it'll kill my research efficiency and then the whole thing will be pointless."
"Nobody said you'd be going alone," Naruto said with a slightly exasperated shake of the head. "My point is that every extra person raises the mission's profile, and keeping it low-profile is how we buy you time and stop Akatsuki deciding it's happy fun massacre hour while we're still waiting for you to deliver the goods.
"The fact is, every single one of your people is famous in one way or another–even Yuno. She's damn good at what she does, and she's got the kind of extreme personality that makes people want to keep watching to see what she does next, the same way Maito Gai did. Unlike me, a retiring wallflower stuck as a celebrity from the day I was born, you guys have no one but yourselves to blame here.
"What that means is if you want to bring someone, you give me your case for why their contribution outweighs how much they'll shorten the fuse."
"All right," Hazō said. "The first one's a no-brainer. I need Noburi. Making rune blanks is chakra-intensive like you wouldn't believe. Without Noburi, I can make maybe one a day, assuming I don't need to do literally anything else ninja-like."
"What about paper seals?" Naruto asked. "No chakra costs there."
"No," Hazō agreed. "But when it comes to paper sealing, we're on an even playing field with multiple top-tier sealmasters who already have plenty of tricks up their sleeves. Or would if they had sleeves in combat mode. If we want paradigm-changing weaponry that they can't possibly see coming, runes are the way forward."
"Fair," Naruto said. "But I don't hear anything that Noburi can't do from here in the village, via the Seventh Path. In fact, he has to be here because he needs to drain his chakra from somewhere before he can give it to you. If he goes, either he drains your team, and then there's no point taking combatants along because they'll be dry when trouble hits, or he scavenges from chakra beasts and risks getting caught.
"Noburi's staying. Leaf needs him here, and literally everybody knows he's one of Leaf's major superweapons, so his absence will be noted. Besides, what's a super valuable military asset famous for his chakra transfer skills doing on a bog-standard sealing research mission? Either the research mission's a cover, which draws attention, or you're doing some kind of sealing research that needs tons of chakra, which draws even more attention. Everyone, including Akatsuki, already knows you're researching 3D sealing so you can fix the Great Seal."
"What if we change the cover story? Hazō asked. "For example, we have it on relia- good authority that the Forbidden Dungeon on Crimson State Island holds some valuable lore, and I was thinking of sacking it while we were out, though I guess that might be less viable with a smaller team. Could we combine the missions with that as the cover?"
Naruto smirked. "Because of course you hear the name 'Forbidden Dungeon' and you instantly want to delve it. You know, it's moments like these that make me feel like you and I could get along as just two guys, as opposed to political allies or Hokage and minion or whatever.
"As a cover story, though, it misses the point. A team of Leaf heavy-hitters heading to a legendary location on a quest for ancient lore? That gets plenty of attention, especially from the kind of people who know how powerful ancient lore can be. But what else is appropriate for Gōketsu Hazō? Offensive operations aren't on the table against anyone that matters right now. You're not a diplomat and you're way not an infiltrator. A sealmaster doing sealing research, though? Nobody's going to blink an eye.
"As for the dungeon, if you really think the lore is super valuable, go for it. Realistically, though, the research matters more."
Damn. Not off to a good start.
"I need Kagome-sensei as a fellow sealmaster," Hazō said. "We have plenty of experience working together, and he's a weapons specialist who can speed things up for me when it comes to paper sealing."
"How much do you need him?" Naruto asked. "No beating about the bush, you're a sealing genius. You came up with skywalkers–the theory, anyway–at fourteen, and even if you were in the right place at the right time, a new sealing paradigm at sixteen is ridiculous. I'm sure Dad would be so mad if he heard.
"Kagome… isn't a sealing genius. If he's come up with any game-changers since he joined the village, he hasn't let the Tower know. Can you tell me you're confident he can come up with some now, enough to outweigh sending out two summoners and sealmasters?"
Could Hazō, in all sincerity? Hazō and Kagome-sensei both knew he'd long since outgrown his sealing master. They both knew he'd long since stopped seeking him out for collaborative research, or even to double-check the theory behind his ideas before prototyping began in earnest. But still, Kagome-sensei had never stopped being Kagome-sensei, and Hazō had only recently realised how important it was for his master to know that.
"I can see why you'd want Mari," Naruto said, mercifully moving on. "Everybody wants Mari."
Hazō silently raised an eyebrow.
"Oh, shut up."
"Mari's the clan's strongest fighter," Hazō said. "I trust her more than anyone to keep me safe. It was brought to my attention a while back that I must be a priority capture target for half the world by now, between the sealing and the scroll, and AMITY should stop people from coming after me in theory, but still, I'd be crazy to go out there without a bodyguard who can handle the worst.
"Also, she's one of my two full-time sanity checkers. It may have come to your attention that sometimes when I'm in the grip of creativity, I… miss stuff. Minor details that somehow stop being minor at the worst possible time. Mari is Leaf's shield against that happening, and I think I could do with one of those when I'm making paradigm-changing superweapons."
"Best case yet," Naruto said. "Sage's ballsack, best case yet.
"Mari's not a summoner, either, so that helps. Sending her with you isn't a no-brainer, though, considering the state of Leaf right now. Ami's unavailable, and Kurenai's not up to a ton of travel right now for multiple reasons, and that suddenly leaves Mari as our top negotiator in the age of international diplomacy. Kei Ruri's helping pick up the slack, which is why Mari's not in Cloud right now, but she's also hella busy coordinating the Great Diaspora for the Condors, and is going to get even busier once the first wave is done. Oh, and our spies in Wind say something big is about to go down, and what'd you wanna bet that's going to mean all hands on deck at the Diplomatic Corps?
"Anyway, she's not your only sanity checker, right? Kei and I may not hang out as much as we used to, but I've been there for her drowning her sorrows with carrot cake more than once."
"Scurrilous exaggerations!" Hazō exclaimed. "What you don't hear about is all the day-to-day sanity checks during which I bring her sensitive clan head stuff and she shrugs and says something like, 'I perceive no obvious disasters that could result from this course of action, testimony though this may be only to my failure of imagination', and then I go ahead, and look, no disasters happen.
"Anyway, yes, she's the other person I trust to catch me before I fall. In fact, some of my most critical failures happened on occasions where I decided not to consult her first for whatever reason."
Like the Elemental Mastery experiment and everything that followed.
"Also, she's a very competent fighter in her own right, and a summoner with all the advantages that entails."
"And one of the most famous people in Leaf," Naruto noted, "as well as essential to the running of the KEI now she's its most senior member. Speaking of which, when's the victory party? I don't recall being invited."
"Victory party?"
"For the KEI elections," Naruto said.
"Huh," Hazō said. "She never even mentioned it to me."
"Weird. You'd think even Kei would feel good about having all those people choose her to be their leader.
"Anyway, sorry for getting us off topic. That just leaves Yuno. Honestly… I'm pretty OK with sending Yuno with you. She'd make a good bodyguard, and I won't say her unique hunting expertise isn't valuable, but Leaf won't collapse without her either."
Naruto thought for a moment.
"Yuno plus two out of Kagome, Mari, and Kei. In my judgement, that's about as far as we can afford to push our luck right now."
"I'd rather not take Yuno without Noburi," Hazō said as his heart sank. "They're important stabilising influences on each other."
"Your mission, your call," Naruto said. "Just don't forget that Yuno's a Leaf ninja, just like the rest of us. She goes where the village needs her to go. If it ever looks like we can't trust her to do that…"
Hazō didn't know what the implied end of that sentence was, and he decided he didn't want to ask.
"Now," Naruto said, "it's getting late, so let's speed this up. What else are you worried about?"
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A quick summary of the rest of the conversation:
- Orochimaru knows everything that Naruto knows about the rift, and Naruto expects that he'll find you to get more details now that he's clued in. Give him the rift seals, but Naruto would prefer it if you kept his father's original work out of Orochimaru's hands whenever possible. Once you're out of Leaf, Naruto suggests minimising contact. He doesn't trust Orochimaru one bit and thinks anyone who did would be dangerously clueless for a ninja.
- You Declared that you had a copy of the Akatsuki dossier on hand for 1 FP. Naruto was delighted to receive such valuable intel, but the building mood of camaraderie died an icy death when he realised that you'd failed to do the thing that should be obvious to any loyal Leaf ninja and pass it on to the Tower the instant you got it.
- Naruto's certainly going to try to get Orochimaru's countermeasures out of him, but he fully expects to be deflected, and he can't put too much pressure on Orochimaru because if he goes missing now, Leaf loses the rift race by default.
- Anti-ninjutsu techniques aren't quite a holy grail of the shinobi world because they do exist, and in fact Naruto knows some, but they're invariably either highly specialised or too weak to be useful in a high-level battle. He doesn't have any relevant Minato seals.
- Speaking of Minato seals, Naruto's father didn't leave behind any useful sealing notes of the kind you're looking for. All the "good stuff" got passed on to Jiraiya years ago and you must have already seen it, but most of Minato's notes were only ever intended for personal use and have vast gaps where things were so obvious to him, or so well-memorised, that they didn't need writing down.
- If you want to know Uchiha clan secrets, ask the Uchiha.
- Naruto is fine with endorsing your Toad Sage training application, but only if you can explain to him what good it would do right now, considering that combat training wouldn't give results fast enough to affect the rift race and the sages can't teach you anything about sealing.
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Leave Yuno, citing Noburi's insistence and a desire not to attract Hidan. Bring Mari and Kagome.
Where are we actually going? How hard would it be to swap out our compatriots?
The pitch for Toad Sage training is that Hazo needs is to figure out what the heck is going on with Minato's notes. There's obvious bullshit going on that could be extremely useful.
Where are we actually going? How hard would it be to swap out our compatriots?
The pitch for Toad Sage training is that Hazo needs is to figure out what the heck is going on with Minato's notes. There's obvious bullshit going on that could be extremely useful.
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Indicative vote for who I would want to bring, with those choices:
[X] Kagome and Kei, No Yuno
If we go, I trust Kagome to keep us safe, secured and hidden in some dark twist of forest. He's rather good at that sort of thing.
Kei because we need somebody to keep us sane, and in the event of catastrophic sealing failure, there's always a chance we crack her brain open and let the ICE out.
No Yuno because taking away brother, sister and wife from Noburi all at once with no strict timeline on when they'll return seems unnecessarily cruel, and I don't think the relative increase in wilderness survivability she represents is worth that.
[X] Kagome and Kei, No Yuno
If we go, I trust Kagome to keep us safe, secured and hidden in some dark twist of forest. He's rather good at that sort of thing.
Kei because we need somebody to keep us sane, and in the event of catastrophic sealing failure, there's always a chance we crack her brain open and let the ICE out.
No Yuno because taking away brother, sister and wife from Noburi all at once with no strict timeline on when they'll return seems unnecessarily cruel, and I don't think the relative increase in wilderness survivability she represents is worth that.
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TBH, when I was reading the previous update, my first guess upon Naruto appearing was "this is Mari using genjutsu on Hazou to manipulate him into leaving + ensure he's blameless if he does get caught". The timing is too suspect (we talk with Mari about leaving, go to the Seventh Path for a moment, and immediately Naruto is here to talk to us about just that?), plus I'm pretty sure this "Naruto" we're talking to semi-conspicuously didn't mention anything only he would know (namely, I think he never even alluded to his previous offer to go missing, did he?).
... But I'm pretty sure the author's notes at the end of the previous chapter immediately disprove that. They say that "this update is what we sincerely believe Naruto would do". That language is pretty unambiguous: if that's what the QMs believe Naruto would do, it's what Naruto would do. Meaning even in the hypothetical where it's a Mari genjutsu who correctly inferred what Naruto would do, we'd also have an actual Naruto dropping in and talking to us about it – so the "genjutsu" theory becomes redundant. (Compare "this update is what we sincerely believe Naruto would plausibly do" – in that case there's some ambiguity regarding whether it's what he'd actually do, leaving the room for this conversation to be a clever plausible-enough Mari genjutsu. But we instead have a pretty ironclad wording.)
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I'm also still confused about this:
Questions I have now are: how are we going to keep Akatsuki off our back, and will it cause problems if Noburi checks in with us on a daily basis to give us chakra (if not multiple times per day) instead of every week?
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[X] Dispel
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- Yes.
We can check in with Kei instead, and pretend we didn't talk to Noburi at all.
I believe part of Naruto's original strategy was that no one in Leaf would have to lie to Akatsuki, and placing Noburi in the position where he might have to do that might end poorly for him. Also, I don't think we have any dogs in Pangolin anymore, nor the other way around.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
This was Naruto's original plan, and it doesn't really work if we're getting chakra from Noburi regularly. So either we compromise the Akatsuki-inconveniencing aspect of the plan—how important this is, I don't know—or we slow down rune research by quite a lot.
Actually, can someone remind me how this would interact with the rules for rune research? Do we only need to pay those massive chakra costs for earthshaping when we do the infusion roll, or all throughout the cycle?
Noumero
Omit Needless Words
[х] Go missing with Orochimaru
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Alright, so whats the plan here? If we do as Naruto says, this just devolves into some crappy/incompetent lighthousing and maybe we cook something up.
Like, if we're being hamstrung on the "You are the nukes guy, go make nukes, highest priority" stuff because there's a lot of hidden caveats... okay, this railroad sucks, lets go off the rails lol.
Like, if we're being hamstrung on the "You are the nukes guy, go make nukes, highest priority" stuff because there's a lot of hidden caveats... okay, this railroad sucks, lets go off the rails lol.
Kei can get a Pang sent to Toad. They're still allies.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
But we can't even do that because Cannai would get mad.
Ah dang.
Alright, well... guess this plotlines damned...