[X] Action Plan: Sealing is a Pathway to Many Abilities Yadda Yadda
Hazou dislikes staking everything on Pain supporting Uplift, but we can't let Akatsuki revive full-power Pain either. Thoughts?
I appreciate the phrasing here, because even as people with different epistemic models on the situation I can agree with you that staking everything on that is a gamble I'll be happy to avoid making, if possible.
It's really a shame that "the Pure Lands" is the politically correct term now, because "Naraka" is so much easier on the wordcount.
 
We haven't told Noburi to do that tenketsu research yet, have we? If not, @Shrooms please add a line about asking Noburi to do that and getting an estimated time to completion from him.

Reo was learning TH. Ask Reo about any unknown jargon in MS9 and MS10 notes, see if he has anything to say. Maintain opsec.
I would rather we just ask Asuma to get us a meeting with a high-level technique hacker of his choice, because (a) I'm not sure what our orders are in terms of Minato notes secrecy, and Reo may not be authorized to know about their contents, (b) Reo hasn't actually been learning this for very long and we're going to get more useful information talking to one of Leaf's leading experts, and (c) we have the Hokage's ear, why the hell shouldn't we make use of it to get a meeting with the best of the best?
 
I would rather we just ask Asuma to get us a meeting with a high-level technique hacker of his choice, because (a) I'm not sure what our orders are in terms of Minato notes secrecy, and Reo may not be authorized to know about their contents, (b) Reo hasn't actually been learning this for very long and we're going to get more useful information talking to one of Leaf's leading experts, and (c) we have the Hokage's ear, why the hell shouldn't we make use of it to get a meeting with the best of the best?
May as well just ask Asuma directly if those are TH terms or not then tbh

We haven't told Noburi to do that tenketsu research yet, have we? If not, @Shrooms please add a line about asking Noburi to do that and getting an estimated time to completion from him.
I don't think I really understand what the Tenketsu research is, could you elaborate?

I appreciate the phrasing here, because even as people with different epistemic models on the situation I can agree with you that staking everything on that is a gamble I'll be happy to avoid making, if possible.
I'm glad it works for you, I tried to keep it neutral if for nothing else than to not bias the pitch to Kagome. I suspect he's going to think bringing Pain back is crazy talk but you never know
 
Can a jonin aura an SC out of existence?
I do not believe we have ever seen jounin aura cause Physical Stress, it's all been Mental so I do not believe so. However if they can cause Physical Stress, absolutely.
  • Continue the Minato sealchain. Follow Hazou's Intuition.
  • Research 5SB. Follow Hazou's Intuition
Hazou's intuition usually relies on being able to reroll a -6, for this update (and until we generate some FP) I think we should switch to SSA w/ no prep explicitly.

Also I would prefer to finish DEs if we're using SSA. But I'm beginning to sound like a broken record in that regard and I won't keep saying it.

[X] Action Plan: Sealing is a Pathway to Many Abilities Yadda Yadda
 
Also I would prefer to finish DEs if we're using SSA. But I'm beginning to sound like a broken record in that regard and I won't keep saying it.
I'm back and forth on it myself. I also want Hazou's RB ASAP if for nothing else than to make the other Goketsu harder to assassinate (if indeed they are getting assassinated)

I had 5SB down to get the barrier seal veterancy faster but I'll go ahead and switch it.
 
okay edits are taking too long and we are running out of time so i'm posting my own kagome plan

hopefully running this by Mari/Kei assuages people's concerns about OPSEC. I personally am not concerned but I think reasonable precautions are nonetheless fine.

[X] Action Plan: Sealing is a Pathway to Many Abilities Yadda Yadda
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  • Optimize with Mari/Kei
  • Ami's right. It's time to get to work.
  • Rift sealing:
    • Talk to Kagome.
      • We finished MS6, he finished MS7, should we start researching rifts?
      • Has his Rift Sealing Ideas timeline changed since learning MS7?
      • Minato seal displays resemble Naruto's jinchuuriki seal. Investigate if promising. Cross-reference Hazou's sketches of Naruto's seal.
      • Ami/Kei believe Akatsuki is researching the Rift. We'll need to handle them.
        • Does Kagome think they can open it without Naruto tenketsu/Minato notes? How long will it take?
        • Ami suggests reviving Pain ourselves, or perma-killing/otherwise removing his eyes from the equation.
          • Hazou dislikes staking everything on Pain supporting Uplift, but we can't let Akatsuki revive full-power Pain either. Thoughts?
        • Concern: Akatsuki ambushes us upon exiting/steals the Rift.
          • Possibilities:
            • Kill Sasori, their only route to using the Rift.
              • Akatsuki'd likely come after Kagome/Hazou.
            • Create second Rift back and exit somewhere else.
            • Move Rift somewhere they'd have trouble accessing/finding it. Leaf? 7th Path? Random cave?
              • Enter Rift, collect data to target Naraka, close Rift permanently, open our own.
            • Create impenetrable 5SB airtight foil box around Rift, fortified with defenses like Jiraiya's Fire Absorber seals, and stall them out. Call in aid via 7th Path once we exit.
      • Do we need additional diagnostic seals to verify:
        • How to ward against Path drain?
        • Whether summoning/reverse summoning is possible/safe?
        • If it's possible to move the rift to a different location?
        • If it's possible to open a new portal to the Pure Lands and close the current one?
    • Offscreen
      • Sealing:
        • Continue Minato sealchain. SSA, no prep.
        • Research Directional Explosives. SSA, no prep.
        • Ask Asuma about any unknown jargon in MS9 and MS10 notes, see if he has anything to say.
        • Ask Noburi to look into Tenketsu opening.
Current version

Now that you mention it, I do think we (unfortunately?) need to have another meeting about Necromancy pretty much ASAP.

Bring in everyone we intend to involve in the final stages, sit them down, and present a timeline/deadline, and figure out how to get as strong as possible in that time. Implicitly, we're going to have to involve Naruto in the actual opening process, so we will have him there at a minimum which is already a good chunk of firepower.

Among those questions, I would like to just directly ask Mari if she thinks she can beat any Akatsuki members at this point or how much time she thinks she needs. Also, arrange for people trained up in Summoning and then deploying them to get Scrolls after 3 months of training. Can't dally with getting stronk anymore.
 
May as well just ask Asuma directly if those are TH terms or not then tbh
I anticipate Hazō and Kagome may want to have an extended conversation with a technique hacker, and this may not be worth Asuma's time when he can delegate it. Nor do we know whether or not there exists a more skilled hacker whom he would be willing to trust with this. So I say, leave it up to him.

I don't think I really understand what the Tenketsu research is, could you elaborate?
IIRC Kagome said that in order to open the rift, we'll need someone to dilate Naruto's tenketsu, which Tsunade could probably figure out, but if Noburi can do it instead and we don't need her help, it's simpler.
 
I anticipate Hazō and Kagome may want to have an extended conversation with a technique hacker, and this may not be worth Asuma's time when he can delegate it. Nor do we know whether or not there exists a more skilled hacker whom he would be willing to trust with this. So I say, leave it up to him.
ok i just changed it to asking asuma for the moment to save word count, if he wants to pass us on that's fine

IIRC Kagome said that in order to open the rift, we'll need someone to dilate Naruto's tenketsu, which Tsunade could probably figure out, but if Noburi can do it instead and we don't need her help, it's simpler.
hmm okay i just added a line about it although i dont really get it :V
 
  • Ami suggests reviving Pain ourselves, or perma-killing/otherwise removing his eyes from the equation.
    • Hazou dislikes staking everything on Pain supporting Uplift, but we can't let Akatsuki revive full-power Pain either. Thoughts?
From discussion in discord, this phrasing would burden Kagome with the knowledge that Ami has specific treasonous plans (and that Hazou isn't acting on them, even if he's not sold on the idea himself). I would suggest a rephrasing along those lines:
  • If we let Akatsuki continue, they will resurrect Pein. Could we perma-kill him, or remove his eyes from the equation?
    • Purely hypothetically, if we revived Pein ourselves, we could maybe convince him to support Uplift. Thoughts?
 
From discussion in discord, this phrasing would burden Kagome with the knowledge that Ami has specific treasonous plans (and that Hazou isn't acting on them, even if he's not sold on the idea himself). I would suggest a rephrasing along those lines:
  • If we let Akatsuki continue, they will resurrect Pein. Could we perma-kill him, or remove his eyes from the equation?
    • Purely hypothetically, if we revived Pein ourselves, we could maybe convince him to support Uplift. Thoughts?
I would suggest not explicitly mentioning Kei or Ami at all in the section with Kagome, personally.
 
I would suggest not explicitly mentioning Kei or Ami at all in the section with Kagome, personally.
In addition to the lines I suggested altering, this is the only other mention of Kei and Ami in the plan:
Ami/Kei believe Akatsuki is researching the Rift. We'll need to handle them.
It could be easily rephrased as something like this:
  • Akatsuki is almost certainly also researching the Rift. We'll need to handle them.
 
[X] Action Plan: Sealing is a Pathway to Many Abilities Yadda Yadda

Sealing:
  • Continue Minato sealchain. SSA, no prep.
  • Research Directional Explosives. SSA, no prep.
  • Ask Asuma about any unknown jargon in MS9 and MS10 notes, see if he has anything to say.
  • Ask Noburi to look into Tenketsu opening.

If we can safely start 5SB or Force wall with base sealing + kagome help + kagome notes then I'd appreciate it if you add that line in there.
I'm also hesitant about telling Kagome about Treason (rezzing Pein) directly, since he's probably gonna go nuclear if we say that. If we can indirectly say Akatsuki are interested and how to handle them, that would probably be better.
 
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